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		<title>By: BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/05/19/gettin-ligeti-wit-it/comment-page-4/#comment-134256</link>
		<dc:creator>BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 00:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Montana we respect the right to privacy.</description>
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		<title>By: manou</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/05/19/gettin-ligeti-wit-it/comment-page-4/#comment-134254</link>
		<dc:creator>manou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 23:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You had not heard of Spider Kama Sutra? It&#039;s virtually a textbook.</description>
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		<title>By: BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/05/19/gettin-ligeti-wit-it/comment-page-4/#comment-134253</link>
		<dc:creator>BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 23:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great as is my delight at discovering information I did not previously have any inkling I was lacking, greater still is my dismay that Manou knew where to find it and indeed even knew it existed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great as is my delight at discovering information I did not previously have any inkling I was lacking, greater still is my dismay that Manou knew where to find it and indeed even knew it existed.</p>
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		<title>By: manou</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/05/19/gettin-ligeti-wit-it/comment-page-4/#comment-134238</link>
		<dc:creator>manou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 20:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Betsy to congratulate her on her recent coronation :

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/03/spider_kama_sutra.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Betsy to congratulate her on her recent coronation :</p>
<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/03/spider_kama_sutra.php" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/03/spider_kama_sutra.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
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		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 19:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arachna-blower, ya know.</description>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 18:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heavens to Betsy, had no idea there was so much tarantulore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heavens to Betsy, had no idea there was so much tarantulore.</p>
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		<title>By: CruzSF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CruzSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 15:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leave it to Betsy to dig into opera history&#039;s crack and expose a web of lies, ignorance, and unheralded sacrifice. We really owe so many amazing performances to spiders. When I think of all the times I was &lt;i&gt;flabbergasted&lt;/i&gt; that I enjoyed a Dessay performance in the last 3 years... I can only hope that Voigt brings a whole team of them for her visit her in a few weeks. I hope they don&#039;t clash with Licitra&#039;s team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leave it to Betsy to dig into opera history&#8217;s crack and expose a web of lies, ignorance, and unheralded sacrifice. We really owe so many amazing performances to spiders. When I think of all the times I was <i>flabbergasted</i> that I enjoyed a Dessay performance in the last 3 years&#8230; I can only hope that Voigt brings a whole team of them for her visit her in a few weeks. I hope they don&#8217;t clash with Licitra&#8217;s team.</p>
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		<title>By: manou</title>
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		<dc:creator>manou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 08:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....or like spiders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..or like spiders.</p>
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		<title>By: BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/05/19/gettin-ligeti-wit-it/comment-page-4/#comment-134200</link>
		<dc:creator>BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 08:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, that must be very confusing.  It&#039;s just night onto 4:00 here, anmd I&#039;m about to retire.  Oh well, we don&#039;t have to walk around upside down all the time like poor Harry and Ruxton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, that must be very confusing.  It&#8217;s just night onto 4:00 here, anmd I&#8217;m about to retire.  Oh well, we don&#8217;t have to walk around upside down all the time like poor Harry and Ruxton.</p>
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		<title>By: manou</title>
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		<dc:creator>manou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 08:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is nearly 10.00am in good ol&#039;London town. Question is - what are &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; doing up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is nearly 10.00am in good ol&#8217;London town. Question is &#8211; what are <i>you</i> doing up?</p>
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		<title>By: BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/05/19/gettin-ligeti-wit-it/comment-page-4/#comment-134198</link>
		<dc:creator>BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 08:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mercy, Manou, what are you doing up?</description>
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		<title>By: manou</title>
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		<dc:creator>manou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 08:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And let us never forget who spun the World Wide Web.</description>
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		<title>By: mrmyster</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/05/19/gettin-ligeti-wit-it/comment-page-4/#comment-134187</link>
		<dc:creator>mrmyster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 02:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>34.2.1.2. Ms Link:   My oh my! I had no ideal you had all that....er, charm
inside you.  Delightful!  But please please do not overlook that spider who
is scheduled to be in the teacup of Mme Voigt, well several times next
season like for Minnie and Broomhilde!!  I wish the spider well and many
happy return engagements.  And when the Opera is finished with him,
let&#039;s send him down to the Supreme Court, then to Congress.  My, what
a busy spider!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>34.2.1.2. Ms Link:   My oh my! I had no ideal you had all that&#8230;.er, charm<br />
inside you.  Delightful!  But please please do not overlook that spider who<br />
is scheduled to be in the teacup of Mme Voigt, well several times next<br />
season like for Minnie and Broomhilde!!  I wish the spider well and many<br />
happy return engagements.  And when the Opera is finished with him,<br />
let&#8217;s send him down to the Supreme Court, then to Congress.  My, what<br />
a busy spider!</p>
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		<title>By: pernille</title>
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		<dc:creator>pernille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 02:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting point about the values in Armida, DCF. I don&#039;t really believe the tale of Ariosto and Tasso as presented by Rossini was intended to be about  male vs. female &quot;values&quot; - rather about how honor can be corrupted and restored. And I think that is how audiences at the time perceived it ( from my reading of 19th century literature)So, although I understand the frustration with the story, I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s a fair reading.

I didn&#039;t mean to dismiss anyone&#039;s enjoyment of the ballet, I was just saying why I felt it sold the music short. And although the ballet WAS a perfect foreshadowing of the story for Rinaldo&#039;s benefit, it would by extension &quot;shred the plot&quot; And I certainly didn&#039;t mean to claim to be anything but a balletmane, which I understand  to be a nice word for &quot;freak&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point about the values in Armida, DCF. I don&#8217;t really believe the tale of Ariosto and Tasso as presented by Rossini was intended to be about  male vs. female &#8220;values&#8221; &#8211; rather about how honor can be corrupted and restored. And I think that is how audiences at the time perceived it ( from my reading of 19th century literature)So, although I understand the frustration with the story, I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s a fair reading.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to dismiss anyone&#8217;s enjoyment of the ballet, I was just saying why I felt it sold the music short. And although the ballet WAS a perfect foreshadowing of the story for Rinaldo&#8217;s benefit, it would by extension &#8220;shred the plot&#8221; And I certainly didn&#8217;t mean to claim to be anything but a balletmane, which I understand  to be a nice word for &#8220;freak&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</title>
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		<dc:creator>BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 02:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My God, the world has gone to Hell in a handbasket;  the inane, uninformed things some people are allowed to post.  

&lt;i&gt;&quot;A live spider would have scurried off the set&quot;&lt;/i&gt; just shows how prejudicial some people are about Nature&#039;s Dearest Friend.  No, Jay, a thousand times, No.  A live spider would have tried to help, to comfort and console, to say to the diva, &quot;Just a little higher, Darling, and a bit more body to the tone.&quot;

The uninformed posters here have absolutely no clue how much they owe to the humble spider.  You think Natalie Dessay achieves her acting style alone?  Hah !  Or, as the French would say, Hah !  Ten industrious arachnids are scurrying around her anatomy giving her the motivation to scurry and flail madly.  True art needs such assitance from time to time.  Would Leonie Rysanek be remembered as such a great actress if it were not for a well-timed puncture at a major pain point?  And she was not the only Viennese favorite to depend on spiders.  IDLT drop names, BMDF Christa Ludwig told me that many times during their brief marriage, she would have to medicate Walter Berry&#039;s butt most extensively, especially after FROSCH.  If you are looking for true unsung heroes, Berry could not be depended on to follow stage directions specifically and would often sit when least expected.  Those spiders gave their lives, friends, THEIR LIVES so you might enjoy a great characterization.  For other supportive anecdotes, I refer you to my monograph, &lt;i&gt;Der Platz von Shpeiders in der Musikalishes Pedagogie und Erektile Dysfunktion.&lt;/i&gt;

Not only in acting are spiders of great service.  I know I am doing a great disservice to the blessed memory of Betty Blackhead who did nothing to dispel the rumor that she supplied the famed High C for Flagstad&#039;s Isolde.  You will read it here first that that note was actually supplied by the extraordinarily talented spider, Amanda Simsmut, (Yes, Vicar, a &lt;i&gt;Commonwealth&lt;/i&gt; arachnid).  Again, IDLTDNBMDF, the noted voice teacher MH confided to me that she wished she had a spider to put in each student&#039;s ear to help them when they vary from pitch.

But there is still a distasteful prejudice about having spiders appear on-stage.  Joe Volpe actually intended to address &lt;i&gt;the problem&lt;/i&gt; and had persuaded James Morris  to retire in 2004, ceding Wotan to a daddy-long-legs named Hans Felgenspurer who would watch him nightly &lt;i&gt;from&lt;/i&gt; the wings.  Hans&#039; career was cut tragically short when a newly-hired stagehand swatted him with a copy of &lt;i&gt;Hustler.&lt;/i&gt;

So don&#039;t be so smug and self-righteous, Jay, in thinking you can speak for the spiders.  You may be very good in most things, but you don&#039;t know &lt;i&gt;jack-maggot&lt;/i&gt; about spiders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My God, the world has gone to Hell in a handbasket;  the inane, uninformed things some people are allowed to post.  </p>
<p><i>&#8220;A live spider would have scurried off the set&#8221;</i> just shows how prejudicial some people are about Nature&#8217;s Dearest Friend.  No, Jay, a thousand times, No.  A live spider would have tried to help, to comfort and console, to say to the diva, &#8220;Just a little higher, Darling, and a bit more body to the tone.&#8221;</p>
<p>The uninformed posters here have absolutely no clue how much they owe to the humble spider.  You think Natalie Dessay achieves her acting style alone?  Hah !  Or, as the French would say, Hah !  Ten industrious arachnids are scurrying around her anatomy giving her the motivation to scurry and flail madly.  True art needs such assitance from time to time.  Would Leonie Rysanek be remembered as such a great actress if it were not for a well-timed puncture at a major pain point?  And she was not the only Viennese favorite to depend on spiders.  IDLT drop names, BMDF Christa Ludwig told me that many times during their brief marriage, she would have to medicate Walter Berry&#8217;s butt most extensively, especially after FROSCH.  If you are looking for true unsung heroes, Berry could not be depended on to follow stage directions specifically and would often sit when least expected.  Those spiders gave their lives, friends, THEIR LIVES so you might enjoy a great characterization.  For other supportive anecdotes, I refer you to my monograph, <i>Der Platz von Shpeiders in der Musikalishes Pedagogie und Erektile Dysfunktion.</i></p>
<p>Not only in acting are spiders of great service.  I know I am doing a great disservice to the blessed memory of Betty Blackhead who did nothing to dispel the rumor that she supplied the famed High C for Flagstad&#8217;s Isolde.  You will read it here first that that note was actually supplied by the extraordinarily talented spider, Amanda Simsmut, (Yes, Vicar, a <i>Commonwealth</i> arachnid).  Again, IDLTDNBMDF, the noted voice teacher MH confided to me that she wished she had a spider to put in each student&#8217;s ear to help them when they vary from pitch.</p>
<p>But there is still a distasteful prejudice about having spiders appear on-stage.  Joe Volpe actually intended to address <i>the problem</i> and had persuaded James Morris  to retire in 2004, ceding Wotan to a daddy-long-legs named Hans Felgenspurer who would watch him nightly <i>from</i> the wings.  Hans&#8217; career was cut tragically short when a newly-hired stagehand swatted him with a copy of <i>Hustler.</i></p>
<p>So don&#8217;t be so smug and self-righteous, Jay, in thinking you can speak for the spiders.  You may be very good in most things, but you don&#8217;t know <i>jack-maggot</i> about spiders.</p>
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		<title>By: DonCarloFanatic</title>
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		<dc:creator>DonCarloFanatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 01:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a ballet fan despite long-term exposure to same. So, Pernille, I bow to your superior understanding of what a mid-opera ballet, or what a ballet in general, ought to be. 

Still, having heard this ballet music twice via XM, I expected something less pleasant than what I finally saw. Loved the costumes, the smiles, the cuteness of it all, the obvious references to Rinaldo being overcome by female beauty, and the way the light dancing turned to an orgy. A perfect (maybe too obvious?) allegory of what Armida really represented, although Rinaldo was too blinded by love to see the truth. Now there&#039;s an idea: how about putting some doubts in his heart from seeing the ballet? 

I give Renee a bye on her singing, because she is what she is at this stage of her career, and I don&#039;t have the ear to hear what you all did. But I do have problems with the way the story &quot;ends.&quot; The soldiers&#039; call to Rinaldo to return to his life of martial prowess is a classic argument to reject a pleasant, nonviolent female world. But Armida is not genuinely a pleasant, nonviolent female. The libretto misses connecting the dots here. (On the other hand, it&#039;s left open whether she&#039;ll use her wand and annihilate all of them in revenge.) 

In this story manhood is defined solely by counting coup. I can see why some people in this thread are sick to death of these same old values and themes and are looking to modern operas to talk about more complex issues in straightforward terms. With weird musical accompaniment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a ballet fan despite long-term exposure to same. So, Pernille, I bow to your superior understanding of what a mid-opera ballet, or what a ballet in general, ought to be. </p>
<p>Still, having heard this ballet music twice via XM, I expected something less pleasant than what I finally saw. Loved the costumes, the smiles, the cuteness of it all, the obvious references to Rinaldo being overcome by female beauty, and the way the light dancing turned to an orgy. A perfect (maybe too obvious?) allegory of what Armida really represented, although Rinaldo was too blinded by love to see the truth. Now there&#8217;s an idea: how about putting some doubts in his heart from seeing the ballet? </p>
<p>I give Renee a bye on her singing, because she is what she is at this stage of her career, and I don&#8217;t have the ear to hear what you all did. But I do have problems with the way the story &#8220;ends.&#8221; The soldiers&#8217; call to Rinaldo to return to his life of martial prowess is a classic argument to reject a pleasant, nonviolent female world. But Armida is not genuinely a pleasant, nonviolent female. The libretto misses connecting the dots here. (On the other hand, it&#8217;s left open whether she&#8217;ll use her wand and annihilate all of them in revenge.) </p>
<p>In this story manhood is defined solely by counting coup. I can see why some people in this thread are sick to death of these same old values and themes and are looking to modern operas to talk about more complex issues in straightforward terms. With weird musical accompaniment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 17:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stanford, I&#039;ve experienced canned music at dance performances (where it&#039;s long used for a long time) and musical theatre shows (ugh!)but so far have been spared such at live opera performances. 

I&#039;d rather hear a live violinist stray off pitch than canned perfection. However, given the dire economic situation many performing arts groups are coping with, there may be ever more canned music.  If and when this happens, I&#039;ll be home watching DVDs, or whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stanford, I&#8217;ve experienced canned music at dance performances (where it&#8217;s long used for a long time) and musical theatre shows (ugh!)but so far have been spared such at live opera performances. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather hear a live violinist stray off pitch than canned perfection. However, given the dire economic situation many performing arts groups are coping with, there may be ever more canned music.  If and when this happens, I&#8217;ll be home watching DVDs, or whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 17:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, I hate to tell you this but virtual orchestras have been around for a while. I auditioned for, and was hired by, Operaworks here in NYC, back in the late 90&#039;s. I saw Ariadne and Maria Stuarda there, both with virtual orchestra. But the tech predates that, as seen in this Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Orchestra

I should also mention that with Finale, I programed the entire first movement of the Trout Quintet, with a mouse no less. Using Finale and Cubase, I can produce rehearsal tracks for musicians, so that, for instance, a violinist learning the Trout could rehearse with the other 4 musicians, even when live musicians aren&#039;t available. I hate canned music for performances such as for a lot of Broadway shows, where reduced orchestras are used and supplemented with synthesizers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, I hate to tell you this but virtual orchestras have been around for a while. I auditioned for, and was hired by, Operaworks here in NYC, back in the late 90&#8242;s. I saw Ariadne and Maria Stuarda there, both with virtual orchestra. But the tech predates that, as seen in this Wikipedia article: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Orchestra" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Orchestra</a></p>
<p>I should also mention that with Finale, I programed the entire first movement of the Trout Quintet, with a mouse no less. Using Finale and Cubase, I can produce rehearsal tracks for musicians, so that, for instance, a violinist learning the Trout could rehearse with the other 4 musicians, even when live musicians aren&#8217;t available. I hate canned music for performances such as for a lot of Broadway shows, where reduced orchestras are used and supplemented with synthesizers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 17:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are all Looney Tunes</description>
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		<title>By: operadunce</title>
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		<dc:creator>operadunce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 16:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely OT, but if others can do it, why not me?   Sure hope this works.
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ8KvGP7yDY</description>
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		<title>By: CruzSF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CruzSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 14:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be honored.</description>
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		<title>By: quoth the maven</title>
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		<dc:creator>quoth the maven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 14:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t Caramoor (although Will Crutchfield has revived a lot of bel canto rarities). It was Vincent La Selva at Summerstage in Central Park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t Caramoor (although Will Crutchfield has revived a lot of bel canto rarities). It was Vincent La Selva at Summerstage in Central Park.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 14:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comments about the Armida ballet, Pernille.  During La C&#039;s live chat on HD day, someone mentioned the ballet was the best part of the production.  A live spider would have scurried off the set mid-way through the ballet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comments about the Armida ballet, Pernille.  During La C&#8217;s live chat on HD day, someone mentioned the ballet was the best part of the production.  A live spider would have scurried off the set mid-way through the ballet.</p>
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		<title>By: pernille</title>
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		<dc:creator>pernille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 14:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May we borrow your expression &quot;The spider didn&#039;t disappoint&quot; for general use. We would give you full credit, of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May we borrow your expression &#8220;The spider didn&#8217;t disappoint&#8221; for general use. We would give you full credit, of course!</p>
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		<title>By: pernille</title>
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		<dc:creator>pernille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 14:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I,too,went to the Armida HD, but with mixed emotions, having seen it “live”.

And, although I wouldn’t go see it again on the screen, it was interesting.
A number of things stick in my mind this morning.

The applause distortion – believe me, it sounded “boosted” for certain performers – it was much more tepid in the house.

Why didn’t the camera work/editing allow us to see the string soloists while they were playing??? Certainly for some of the time we could have been devoted to them instead of staring at pretty frocks.

The ballet, which in the words of one of my companions ( a serious balletomane like me) seemed like “rhythmic gymnastics” in the house, but was just pure camp ( in the philosophical sense, not cultural) on screen. It is really a cheap shot to mock Rossini’s 19th century charming rhythms for comic effect.

A few notes seemed “patched” – but couldn’t they have done something for the god-awful boner of RF’s towards the end? In all fairness to her, this is going to be played over, and over, and over.

The intermission chatter – very revealing – RF referred to coloratura’s similarities to gospel – I think I would enjoy her singing more if she spent more hours studying Rossini than diversifying.

The unfortunate remarks about the performance history of Armida were rather irritating because the public deserves better. At least one of the tenors set DV right when he countered that not all the tenors in the world capable of singing Rossini were captured for this production. Mentioning Geneva’s “La Donna del Lago” was a wonderful gesture on his part) Another singer remarked that RF wasn’t there for the first few rehearsals but that they had rehearsed with  Angela, her wonderful cover. Good for him!

I&#039;ll  leave the judgement about acting choices to someone with some expertise, but somehow acting like a pouty teenager does not evoke a sorceress to me.  

The tenors. This performance run at the Met will probably be remembered for the time when Armida will be thought of as “the tenors” opera, rather than the soprano. The audience at the HD performance certainly seemed to respond in a way that points in that direction.

DCF Thanks for the Porgy&amp;Bess observation, it did  cross my mind, and I couldn&#039;t quite put a finger on it. It wasn&#039;t as obvious &quot;live&quot; but sure seemed that way on the screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I,too,went to the Armida HD, but with mixed emotions, having seen it “live”.</p>
<p>And, although I wouldn’t go see it again on the screen, it was interesting.<br />
A number of things stick in my mind this morning.</p>
<p>The applause distortion – believe me, it sounded “boosted” for certain performers – it was much more tepid in the house.</p>
<p>Why didn’t the camera work/editing allow us to see the string soloists while they were playing??? Certainly for some of the time we could have been devoted to them instead of staring at pretty frocks.</p>
<p>The ballet, which in the words of one of my companions ( a serious balletomane like me) seemed like “rhythmic gymnastics” in the house, but was just pure camp ( in the philosophical sense, not cultural) on screen. It is really a cheap shot to mock Rossini’s 19th century charming rhythms for comic effect.</p>
<p>A few notes seemed “patched” – but couldn’t they have done something for the god-awful boner of RF’s towards the end? In all fairness to her, this is going to be played over, and over, and over.</p>
<p>The intermission chatter – very revealing – RF referred to coloratura’s similarities to gospel – I think I would enjoy her singing more if she spent more hours studying Rossini than diversifying.</p>
<p>The unfortunate remarks about the performance history of Armida were rather irritating because the public deserves better. At least one of the tenors set DV right when he countered that not all the tenors in the world capable of singing Rossini were captured for this production. Mentioning Geneva’s “La Donna del Lago” was a wonderful gesture on his part) Another singer remarked that RF wasn’t there for the first few rehearsals but that they had rehearsed with  Angela, her wonderful cover. Good for him!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll  leave the judgement about acting choices to someone with some expertise, but somehow acting like a pouty teenager does not evoke a sorceress to me.  </p>
<p>The tenors. This performance run at the Met will probably be remembered for the time when Armida will be thought of as “the tenors” opera, rather than the soprano. The audience at the HD performance certainly seemed to respond in a way that points in that direction.</p>
<p>DCF Thanks for the Porgy&amp;Bess observation, it did  cross my mind, and I couldn&#8217;t quite put a finger on it. It wasn&#8217;t as obvious &#8220;live&#8221; but sure seemed that way on the screen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 10:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first two acts of the live 5/11 Armida performance were like a root canal without anesthesia.  I, and hundreds of others, fled in dismay after the second act.  You had more Banks in the HD performance, so that would have helped. Osburn and Brownlee were indeed fine.  But otherwise, it was excruciating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first two acts of the live 5/11 Armida performance were like a root canal without anesthesia.  I, and hundreds of others, fled in dismay after the second act.  You had more Banks in the HD performance, so that would have helped. Osburn and Brownlee were indeed fine.  But otherwise, it was excruciating.</p>
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		<title>By: La Valkyrietta</title>
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		<dc:creator>La Valkyrietta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 10:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Or tutti sorgeti, ministri infernale&quot; (Pardon the spelling).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Or tutti sorgeti, ministri infernale&#8221; (Pardon the spelling).</p>
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		<title>By: Il faut parterre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Il faut parterre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 10:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was watching that episode of Jeopardy (in my defense, it IS the semi-finals of The Tournament of Champions).  It startled me that of three really bright people NO ONE would know the answer.

But what shocked me even more was the comment made by Alex when giving the answer: &quot;We were talking about High C&#039;s, something EVERY tenor must have.&quot;!

That sure is news to me.  When was the last time Placido sang a High C in public??

Apparently Alex and his contestants get their &quot;opera&quot; info from those Andrea Bocelli and Charlotte Church &quot;specials&quot; that are always run during pledge drives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching that episode of Jeopardy (in my defense, it IS the semi-finals of The Tournament of Champions).  It startled me that of three really bright people NO ONE would know the answer.</p>
<p>But what shocked me even more was the comment made by Alex when giving the answer: &#8220;We were talking about High C&#8217;s, something EVERY tenor must have.&#8221;!</p>
<p>That sure is news to me.  When was the last time Placido sang a High C in public??</p>
<p>Apparently Alex and his contestants get their &#8220;opera&#8221; info from those Andrea Bocelli and Charlotte Church &#8220;specials&#8221; that are always run during pledge drives.</p>
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		<title>By: CruzSF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CruzSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 07:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love to see that grand old gal having a great time.</description>
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		<title>By: BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</title>
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		<dc:creator>BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 07:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awwwww!</description>
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