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		<title>By: ewguvhc xjmngti</title>
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		<dc:creator>ewguvhc xjmngti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Felix Medina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix Medina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen &quot;Glorious!&quot; in Canada and it is a phenomenal, funny play.  According to the program notes, it has been produced in 24 countries and translated into 16 languages - which is pretty incredible.  The central role of Florence is a sparkling role and Katia will be incredible.  To hear the great diva sing three arias badly (Florence was known as &quot;the worst singer in the world&quot;) will be worth the admission price alone. The show also ran 6 months in London and is scheduled for runs in Paris, Chicago, Berlin and Madrid.  ItÂ´s a great show, truly hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen &#8220;Glorious!&#8221; in Canada and it is a phenomenal, funny play.  According to the program notes, it has been produced in 24 countries and translated into 16 languages &#8211; which is pretty incredible.  The central role of Florence is a sparkling role and Katia will be incredible.  To hear the great diva sing three arias badly (Florence was known as &#8220;the worst singer in the world&#8221;) will be worth the admission price alone. The show also ran 6 months in London and is scheduled for runs in Paris, Chicago, Berlin and Madrid.  ItÂ´s a great show, truly hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: Thackeray Gnomey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thackeray Gnomey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regina dell fate says: &quot;Armerjacquino is right about Plowright - unfortunately her career was ruined by her pushy, greedy manager of the time.&quot;

Wasn&#039;t said manager he also her husband? And he still is, I believe. I think she should have dropped to dramatic mezzo years ago. She&#039;d have made a good Eboli, for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regina dell fate says: &#8220;Armerjacquino is right about Plowright &#8211; unfortunately her career was ruined by her pushy, greedy manager of the time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t said manager he also her husband? And he still is, I believe. I think she should have dropped to dramatic mezzo years ago. She&#8217;d have made a good Eboli, for instance.</p>
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		<title>By: Scaramuccio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scaramuccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting news. I saw the Sweet Biscuits in recital in Bergamo maybe a decade ago or less, and much of it was pure filth. Yet I would gladly have given all that for a few golden phrases in the Maria Stuarda excerpts she did. And, yes, I warmed to the nostalgia of the audience and the vecchie at the back crying &#039;Sei bella, Katya&#039;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting news. I saw the Sweet Biscuits in recital in Bergamo maybe a decade ago or less, and much of it was pure filth. Yet I would gladly have given all that for a few golden phrases in the Maria Stuarda excerpts she did. And, yes, I warmed to the nostalgia of the audience and the vecchie at the back crying &#8216;Sei bella, Katya&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>By: LVPO</title>
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		<dc:creator>LVPO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes her Medora in &quot;Il Corsaro&quot; at the beginning of her career was pretty special. I really like her HÃ©lÃ¨ne in &quot;JÃ©rusalem&quot; with Carreras in 1975 which was also pretty excellent. &quot;I Due Foscari&quot; on Philips was fairly high-ranking too... But one of her idiosyncracies was just that of being able to surprise you and turn in a very special performance just when you were ready to write her off (... again!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes her Medora in &#8220;Il Corsaro&#8221; at the beginning of her career was pretty special. I really like her HÃ©lÃ¨ne in &#8220;JÃ©rusalem&#8221; with Carreras in 1975 which was also pretty excellent. &#8220;I Due Foscari&#8221; on Philips was fairly high-ranking too&#8230; But one of her idiosyncracies was just that of being able to surprise you and turn in a very special performance just when you were ready to write her off (&#8230; again!).</p>
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		<title>By: Sanford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;simplified&quot; Lucia is actually closer to what Donizetti wrote; most of what we identify with Lucia are interpolations by sopranos and conductors who wanted more coloratura. I love Riciarelli. I think her recording of the 5 act French Don Carlo is wonderful (and how much better I think the opera is in its original form and language). I also remember an album she did that included Bellini&#039;s beautiful song Vaga Luna... pure gold. I also like the earlier Verdi operas she recorded (though no one sings Luisa better than Moffo).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;simplified&#8221; Lucia is actually closer to what Donizetti wrote; most of what we identify with Lucia are interpolations by sopranos and conductors who wanted more coloratura. I love Riciarelli. I think her recording of the 5 act French Don Carlo is wonderful (and how much better I think the opera is in its original form and language). I also remember an album she did that included Bellini&#8217;s beautiful song Vaga Luna&#8230; pure gold. I also like the earlier Verdi operas she recorded (though no one sings Luisa better than Moffo).</p>
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		<title>By: Regina delle fate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regina delle fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her Luisa Miller was the pinnacle of her Covent Garden career. She sang it in three successive seasons with first with Pavarotti, then Domingo and finally Carreras and Bergonzi alternating as Rodolfo. She was also a very touching Elisabetta in the mid-1970s - I saw this in Covent Garden, Paris and Munich around the same time - and her Desdemona was the finest around for several years. I missed her Ballo and Aida which critics said were too heavy for her (as was her Leonora in Il trovatore) but she was a lovely Mimi, Giulietta in Capuleti  and Lucia in the &quot;simplified&quot; - no high notes - CaballÃ© version. I wish she had sung some Mozart roles in London. She might have been a divine Contessa and Donna Anna. Armerjacquino is right about Plowright - unfortunately her career was ruined by her pushy, greedy manager of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her Luisa Miller was the pinnacle of her Covent Garden career. She sang it in three successive seasons with first with Pavarotti, then Domingo and finally Carreras and Bergonzi alternating as Rodolfo. She was also a very touching Elisabetta in the mid-1970s &#8211; I saw this in Covent Garden, Paris and Munich around the same time &#8211; and her Desdemona was the finest around for several years. I missed her Ballo and Aida which critics said were too heavy for her (as was her Leonora in Il trovatore) but she was a lovely Mimi, Giulietta in Capuleti  and Lucia in the &#8220;simplified&#8221; &#8211; no high notes &#8211; CaballÃ© version. I wish she had sung some Mozart roles in London. She might have been a divine Contessa and Donna Anna. Armerjacquino is right about Plowright &#8211; unfortunately her career was ruined by her pushy, greedy manager of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Perfidia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perfidia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She looks like Bette Midler before her big slim down.</description>
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		<title>By: KJC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the photo of KR standing there looking ecstatic or something and the red headed woman looks a lot like a photo from an old Miss America pageant, with Miss Am. and Lenora Slaughter, the old lady who used to run the pageant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the photo of KR standing there looking ecstatic or something and the red headed woman looks a lot like a photo from an old Miss America pageant, with Miss Am. and Lenora Slaughter, the old lady who used to run the pageant.</p>
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		<title>By: LVPO</title>
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		<dc:creator>LVPO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KJC: there is a third KR rendition of the La Wally aria, the one in the turquoise dress with the really big puffy Alexis Carrington type broad shoulders... She sings the best in that one. More honest sound, less self-indulgent, more supported, more spin to the tone and less whobble and swoop from note to note.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KJC: there is a third KR rendition of the La Wally aria, the one in the turquoise dress with the really big puffy Alexis Carrington type broad shoulders&#8230; She sings the best in that one. More honest sound, less self-indulgent, more supported, more spin to the tone and less whobble and swoop from note to note.</p>
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		<title>By: jatm2063</title>
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		<dc:creator>jatm2063</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KJC:  I like the black dress video too, although she seems in a bit better voice overall in the gold dress video to me.  In the black dress video she tries to sing the vast majority of the piece pianissimo (marking?). 

Notice in the gold dress video she takes it VERY slowly and milks every syllable.  She also makes most of the entrances late, most noticeably the first one, when the conductor turns to her and gestures politely for her to enter, about 2 beats late.  He&#039;s probably thinking to himself &quot;sing you stupid cow&quot;.

There is also a blue dress video, taped outdoors somewhere.  In that she doesn&#039;t seem to be in very good form, although it could just be the miking/acoustics.

Her hair was always a problem too, wasn&#039;t it?  Its always like she is copying things she sees in Italian fashion magazines from the 40s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KJC:  I like the black dress video too, although she seems in a bit better voice overall in the gold dress video to me.  In the black dress video she tries to sing the vast majority of the piece pianissimo (marking?). </p>
<p>Notice in the gold dress video she takes it VERY slowly and milks every syllable.  She also makes most of the entrances late, most noticeably the first one, when the conductor turns to her and gestures politely for her to enter, about 2 beats late.  He&#8217;s probably thinking to himself &#8220;sing you stupid cow&#8221;.</p>
<p>There is also a blue dress video, taped outdoors somewhere.  In that she doesn&#8217;t seem to be in very good form, although it could just be the miking/acoustics.</p>
<p>Her hair was always a problem too, wasn&#8217;t it?  Its always like she is copying things she sees in Italian fashion magazines from the 40s.</p>
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		<title>By: kjc</title>
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		<dc:creator>kjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are 2 videos of KR singing Ebben...the black dress video and the gold dress video. I like the black dress video better; in the gold dress one she ends the aria by spreading her arms in big broadway gestures which don&#039;t fit with the lyrics IMO.  If someone more knowing than moi about vocalism could check out both videos and tell me what I should be hearing it would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are 2 videos of KR singing Ebben&#8230;the black dress video and the gold dress video. I like the black dress video better; in the gold dress one she ends the aria by spreading her arms in big broadway gestures which don&#8217;t fit with the lyrics IMO.  If someone more knowing than moi about vocalism could check out both videos and tell me what I should be hearing it would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: amy gurchy</title>
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		<dc:creator>amy gurchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the top picture KR is beginning to look a little like Peggy Lee. Is there enough Voice left that she could lower it and sing popular music from whatever the Great Italian Songbook may have in it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the top picture KR is beginning to look a little like Peggy Lee. Is there enough Voice left that she could lower it and sing popular music from whatever the Great Italian Songbook may have in it?</p>
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		<title>By: gracegolden</title>
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		<dc:creator>gracegolden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may get into a touchy angle of the life of Katia, but from watching a bunch of her videos she seems to have some kind of trouble with her eyes; she always looked Woozy. Maybe it was the bright lights or she needed glasses or she was On something. She reminded me of some videos I found of Helen Morgan in her drunked up period; neither of them seemed to be seeing anything while performing. Trying to not sound snarky, but I have wondered what Katia&#039;s trouble was with her eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may get into a touchy angle of the life of Katia, but from watching a bunch of her videos she seems to have some kind of trouble with her eyes; she always looked Woozy. Maybe it was the bright lights or she needed glasses or she was On something. She reminded me of some videos I found of Helen Morgan in her drunked up period; neither of them seemed to be seeing anything while performing. Trying to not sound snarky, but I have wondered what Katia&#8217;s trouble was with her eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: jatm2063</title>
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		<dc:creator>jatm2063</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cieca, thanks very much, I was not aware of some of those things. Was she a nutjob over Carreras or someone else?  or just a nut for no apparent reason?

Either way, its interesting to know that she is trying out some acting.  At least she isn&#039;t giving embarassing recitals in Japan, or anything like that. (laughing)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cieca, thanks very much, I was not aware of some of those things. Was she a nutjob over Carreras or someone else?  or just a nut for no apparent reason?</p>
<p>Either way, its interesting to know that she is trying out some acting.  At least she isn&#8217;t giving embarassing recitals in Japan, or anything like that. (laughing)</p>
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		<title>By: Thackeray Gnomey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thackeray Gnomey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugo - it&#039;s interesting that you&#039;ve observed that funny legato thing too ... and it reminds me that I saw her as Leonora Trovatore in the 80s with Carreras as Manrico ... but it again left no lasting impression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugo &#8211; it&#8217;s interesting that you&#8217;ve observed that funny legato thing too &#8230; and it reminds me that I saw her as Leonora Trovatore in the 80s with Carreras as Manrico &#8230; but it again left no lasting impression.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbie B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobbie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reply to #23:

There is no relationship between the two plays.

&quot;Souvenir: A Fantasia on the life of FFJ&quot;

The title says it all.  This two-person play chooses to tell the story of Jenkins from the viewpoint of Cosme McMoon (her accompanist) and their relationship.  While there is no actual proof of this friendship as portrayed by its playwright, Stephen Temperlay, he successfully weaves a delightful evening&#039;s entertainment.  It is an assumption and does not claim to tell the true story.  And the final scene of the play is worth the price of admission.

Judy Kaye is phenomenal in the role, imitating the Jenkins voice to perfection.  During the play, Jenkins plays one of her recordings.  The producers could have easily used the original Melotone shellac but Kaye went to a recording studio and recorded the Queen of the Night aria and uses this in her portrayal.  Most audience members think it is the real Jenkins they&#039;re hearing but it&#039;s the amazing imitation by Kaye.

&quot;Glorious!&quot; &quot;based on the true story of FFJ&quot; by Peter Quilter

This couldn&#039;t be farther from the truth. It claims to tell the &quot;true&quot; story but is rife with errors.  For example, the play, which takes place only in the year of Jenkins&#039; death (1944), begins with McMoon meeting her for the first time (he actually met her in 1920). She asks him if he&#039;s heard her recordings (McMoon is her accompanist on the recordings), etc. etc.

There is a new documentary about Jenkins called &quot;FFJ: A World Of Her Own&quot; available from VAI.  I highly recommend it.  It is void of assumptions or opinions and puts forth medical and psychological facts that explain just WHY Jenkins did what she did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reply to #23:</p>
<p>There is no relationship between the two plays.</p>
<p>&#8220;Souvenir: A Fantasia on the life of FFJ&#8221;</p>
<p>The title says it all.  This two-person play chooses to tell the story of Jenkins from the viewpoint of Cosme McMoon (her accompanist) and their relationship.  While there is no actual proof of this friendship as portrayed by its playwright, Stephen Temperlay, he successfully weaves a delightful evening&#8217;s entertainment.  It is an assumption and does not claim to tell the true story.  And the final scene of the play is worth the price of admission.</p>
<p>Judy Kaye is phenomenal in the role, imitating the Jenkins voice to perfection.  During the play, Jenkins plays one of her recordings.  The producers could have easily used the original Melotone shellac but Kaye went to a recording studio and recorded the Queen of the Night aria and uses this in her portrayal.  Most audience members think it is the real Jenkins they&#8217;re hearing but it&#8217;s the amazing imitation by Kaye.</p>
<p>&#8220;Glorious!&#8221; &#8220;based on the true story of FFJ&#8221; by Peter Quilter</p>
<p>This couldn&#8217;t be farther from the truth. It claims to tell the &#8220;true&#8221; story but is rife with errors.  For example, the play, which takes place only in the year of Jenkins&#8217; death (1944), begins with McMoon meeting her for the first time (he actually met her in 1920). She asks him if he&#8217;s heard her recordings (McMoon is her accompanist on the recordings), etc. etc.</p>
<p>There is a new documentary about Jenkins called &#8220;FFJ: A World Of Her Own&#8221; available from VAI.  I highly recommend it.  It is void of assumptions or opinions and puts forth medical and psychological facts that explain just WHY Jenkins did what she did.</p>
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		<title>By: Il Lacerato Spirito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Il Lacerato Spirito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember when Carreras was in his prime at NYCO.  Riccarelli was always in the wings (and quite chubby then) taking notes and giving Carreras hints.  She looked like a &#039;30&#039;s diva from Italy at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember when Carreras was in his prime at NYCO.  Riccarelli was always in the wings (and quite chubby then) taking notes and giving Carreras hints.  She looked like a &#8217;30&#8242;s diva from Italy at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
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		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that &lt;i&gt;Luisa Miller&lt;/i&gt; clip, LC.

I don&#039;t think it sad that she&#039;s playing FFJ on stage. Her singing career is over so why not? If she were still in the middle of an operatic career, there might be nasty art-imitates-life comparisons but that&#039;s not the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that <i>Luisa Miller</i> clip, LC.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it sad that she&#8217;s playing FFJ on stage. Her singing career is over so why not? If she were still in the middle of an operatic career, there might be nasty art-imitates-life comparisons but that&#8217;s not the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/15/tour-de-force/comment-page-3/#comment-24258</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anybody know what exactly the relationship is--if any--of &quot;Gloriosa&quot; to &quot;Souvenir&quot;, the FFJ play with music with which Judy Kaye had such success here in NYC and again at the Berkshire Theater Festival?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody know what exactly the relationship is&#8211;if any&#8211;of &#8220;Gloriosa&#8221; to &#8220;Souvenir&#8221;, the FFJ play with music with which Judy Kaye had such success here in NYC and again at the Berkshire Theater Festival?</p>
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		<title>By: Graciella Scusi</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/15/tour-de-force/comment-page-3/#comment-24253</link>
		<dc:creator>Graciella Scusi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Early on she had a lovely, full, warm lyric voice,
but was rushed into a major career after winning,
I think, the Verdi competition in Italy...I remember
a recital at Carnegie with Carreras not long after rumors of their affair, where the end of act 1 of
&quot;Boheme&quot; was so fresh and real there was a collective sigh from the audience...
Even relatively late in her game, as Desdemona in
the Kleiber &quot;Otello&quot;s at the met, when the voice was
obviously damaged, there were lovely moments and
Kleiber was unfailingly supportive of her musically
in creating a vulnerable and sympathetic  characterization</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Early on she had a lovely, full, warm lyric voice,<br />
but was rushed into a major career after winning,<br />
I think, the Verdi competition in Italy&#8230;I remember<br />
a recital at Carnegie with Carreras not long after rumors of their affair, where the end of act 1 of<br />
&#8220;Boheme&#8221; was so fresh and real there was a collective sigh from the audience&#8230;<br />
Even relatively late in her game, as Desdemona in<br />
the Kleiber &#8220;Otello&#8221;s at the met, when the voice was<br />
obviously damaged, there were lovely moments and<br />
Kleiber was unfailingly supportive of her musically<br />
in creating a vulnerable and sympathetic  characterization</p>
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		<title>By: Lindoro</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/15/tour-de-force/comment-page-3/#comment-24252</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindoro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this stage of her career, I think her as Flo-Fo-Je is type casting. Sad as it sounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this stage of her career, I think her as Flo-Fo-Je is type casting. Sad as it sounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindoro</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/15/tour-de-force/comment-page-2/#comment-24251</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindoro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought Ricciarelli was a Mozart singer that just got too ambitious. From my first hearing the voice struck me as perfect for Fiordiliggi, Elvira, Ilia, Countess Almaviva, All these at a time when there was not an Italian soprano of international stature singing these roles. I thought her voice could also be suited to some bel canto and lighter side of Verdi (Luisa Miller, Violetta, maybe Gilda)

I always believe that had she stuck to that, she would have been an unbeatable Verdi soprano in the heavier stuff around the 90&#039;s and she could still be singing some stuff quite well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought Ricciarelli was a Mozart singer that just got too ambitious. From my first hearing the voice struck me as perfect for Fiordiliggi, Elvira, Ilia, Countess Almaviva, All these at a time when there was not an Italian soprano of international stature singing these roles. I thought her voice could also be suited to some bel canto and lighter side of Verdi (Luisa Miller, Violetta, maybe Gilda)</p>
<p>I always believe that had she stuck to that, she would have been an unbeatable Verdi soprano in the heavier stuff around the 90&#8242;s and she could still be singing some stuff quite well.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Santos</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/15/tour-de-force/comment-page-2/#comment-24250</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo Santos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thackeray Gnomey: &quot;Apart from the lack of a substantial top, I was always rather bothered by her â€˜dÃ©tachÃ©â€™ legato -not enough use of portamento...&quot;

She had a regular top, it wasn&#039;t the biggest one in the business but it served her fairly well for some years. About the legato, i have a 1971 Parma Trovatore with her in the freshest of voices. You think she has everything to master those long ethereal lines of Leonora but, once in a while, you feel there is a lack of a consistent legato. Nevertheless, she gives a great performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thackeray Gnomey: &#8220;Apart from the lack of a substantial top, I was always rather bothered by her â€˜dÃ©tachÃ©â€™ legato -not enough use of portamento&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>She had a regular top, it wasn&#8217;t the biggest one in the business but it served her fairly well for some years. About the legato, i have a 1971 Parma Trovatore with her in the freshest of voices. You think she has everything to master those long ethereal lines of Leonora but, once in a while, you feel there is a lack of a consistent legato. Nevertheless, she gives a great performance.</p>
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		<title>By: LVPO</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/15/tour-de-force/comment-page-2/#comment-24249</link>
		<dc:creator>LVPO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No... she hasn&#039;t been married to Pippo Baudo for about 2-3 years now....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No&#8230; she hasn&#8217;t been married to Pippo Baudo for about 2-3 years now&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Thackeray Gnomey</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/15/tour-de-force/comment-page-2/#comment-24243</link>
		<dc:creator>Thackeray Gnomey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think part of the reason for Riccarelli&#039;s big career was because she looked very good on stage (especially in the 80s when she lost her puppy fat), she was a sensitive singer at her best, and there was always something simpatica about her. But why she was so much more sought after than, say, Maria Chiara, I don&#039;t know.

How long were she and Carreras an (illicit) item?
And is she still married to Pippo Baudo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think part of the reason for Riccarelli&#8217;s big career was because she looked very good on stage (especially in the 80s when she lost her puppy fat), she was a sensitive singer at her best, and there was always something simpatica about her. But why she was so much more sought after than, say, Maria Chiara, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>How long were she and Carreras an (illicit) item?<br />
And is she still married to Pippo Baudo?</p>
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		<title>By: La Cieca</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/15/tour-de-force/comment-page-2/#comment-24241</link>
		<dc:creator>La Cieca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grimgerde, La Cieca believes that the truth is probably a good deal more complicated than that. It is pretty well known that in the late 1970s to early 1980s Ricciarelli went through a very messy time emotionally, with reported suicide attempts, etc. Singing in so tenuous a psychological state surely takes an enormous toll on the voice.

Another point is that because Ricciarelli had more or less by nature a really gorgeous instrument, she never solidified her technique the way artist with more recalcitrant instruments are forced to do. After the age of 35 or so a natural voice sometimes runs aground simply because of the loss of youthful flexibility, and by that time a singer in busy mid-career may not have the time or the inclination to restudy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grimgerde, La Cieca believes that the truth is probably a good deal more complicated than that. It is pretty well known that in the late 1970s to early 1980s Ricciarelli went through a very messy time emotionally, with reported suicide attempts, etc. Singing in so tenuous a psychological state surely takes an enormous toll on the voice.</p>
<p>Another point is that because Ricciarelli had more or less by nature a really gorgeous instrument, she never solidified her technique the way artist with more recalcitrant instruments are forced to do. After the age of 35 or so a natural voice sometimes runs aground simply because of the loss of youthful flexibility, and by that time a singer in busy mid-career may not have the time or the inclination to restudy.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Ward</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/15/tour-de-force/comment-page-2/#comment-24240</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw and heard Riciarelli once at the Lyric in Chicago in I Due Foscari.  I don&#039;t remember a thing about her or the production.  If she  had sounded as she does in the clip I would have remembered.  It was early in her career. I wish her luck and joy in her new adventure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw and heard Riciarelli once at the Lyric in Chicago in I Due Foscari.  I don&#8217;t remember a thing about her or the production.  If she  had sounded as she does in the clip I would have remembered.  It was early in her career. I wish her luck and joy in her new adventure.</p>
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		<title>By: Feldmarschallin</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/15/tour-de-force/comment-page-2/#comment-24239</link>
		<dc:creator>Feldmarschallin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard her several times and didn&#039;t find anything special. Much crooning and a very small voice. I recall Elisabetta in Don Carlos, Mimi and Bianca e Falliero in Pesaro. The last one was better than the first two. This was 1984-86. Maybe in the 70&#039;s she was better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard her several times and didn&#8217;t find anything special. Much crooning and a very small voice. I recall Elisabetta in Don Carlos, Mimi and Bianca e Falliero in Pesaro. The last one was better than the first two. This was 1984-86. Maybe in the 70&#8242;s she was better.</p>
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		<title>By: Grimgerde</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/15/tour-de-force/comment-page-2/#comment-24237</link>
		<dc:creator>Grimgerde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the change that happened around 1979 for Ricciarelli was called Karajan, who was getting to the peak of his &quot;slim voice&quot; period; he got her to sing Turandot on record and it is still quite painfull to hear. I heard her do a concert performance of Tosca with Herbie in 82, and while she was quite beguiling, the taped evidence years later shows her stretched beyond comfort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the change that happened around 1979 for Ricciarelli was called Karajan, who was getting to the peak of his &#8220;slim voice&#8221; period; he got her to sing Turandot on record and it is still quite painfull to hear. I heard her do a concert performance of Tosca with Herbie in 82, and while she was quite beguiling, the taped evidence years later shows her stretched beyond comfort.</p>
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