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“With Wednesday’s stellar staging of Rodgers and Hammerstein’s Carousel, the New York Philharmonic joyously put the ‘music’ back into the Broadway musical. From the first yearning chords of the ‘Carousel Waltz’ to the towering final chorus of ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone,’ Richard Rodgers’ melodies shimmered in the hands of the 71-member Philharmonic — an extravagant alternative to the scrawny dozen or so players a Broadway theater might muster.” [New York Post]

  • blanchette

    OR does anyone wanna buy the tkt? 1st balcony box close to the stage, seat 2 first row $25?

  • Camille

    You guys are making an awful big deal about that one incident of a slap between the two principals. I think it happened when he was very upset, no?, and didn’t know what he would do to make money. He knew Aunt Nettie was right around the corner and wouldn’t really get away with anything. Please someone refresh my memory and give the dialogue and stage directions about the slap, or whatever it was.

    I don’t think it has much to do with poor little Julie loving her abuser but with her Loving, and in spite of herself, which just IS—because it is—and is attached to a poor bloke who just can’t seem to make a chance for himself happen, and as Nostra Cieca well explains elsewhere—One does not order love but Love orders one.

    In somma: love, like shit, just happens. That’s all. It’s not calculus.

    Love,
    Camille

    • Camille

      Listening to Francesca da Rimini just now I came across the words from Dante’s Inferno in which she explains herself:

      “AMOR, ch’al cor gentil ratto s’apprende,
      prese costui della bella persona
      che mi fu tolta; e ‘l modo ancor m’offende.

      AMOR, ch’a nullo amato amar perdona,
      mi prese del costui piaer si forte
      che, come vedi, ancor non m’abbandona.

      AMOR condusse noi ad una morte:
      Caìna attende chi a vita ci spense”

      Love, it is always the same, be it for Julie Jordan or Francesca da Rimini.

  • blanchette

    I’m listening to all these comments and debating with self. URS is funny,Manou- yes I’ve listened to that part a lot. And by god even experienced it now that I think of it…..and then they read no longer………

    • Rory Williams

      Miminy Piminy! If you have Sirius, Blanchette, Francesca da Rimini with Scotto from 1986 is just starting now (6:00 pm ET)

      • Camille

        hey THANKS A LOT!

        I don’t care so much for Ermanno Mauro, but I guess he’ll do in a pinch.

      • bluecabochon

        Rory dearest, thanks so much for the tip on Sirius. I have also been debating whether or not to go. I would advise people to look out for discounts on FdR as I don’t think it’s selling.

        • Rory Williams

          It looked well gorgeous in the Opera News pix, but those duds have languished in storage for a good while. Might look “cough cough” at this late date.

  • blanchette

    thank you Rory I don’t have Sirius in the house but I believe I bought that very broadcast at Academy used CD’s- Mauro is not bad at all- he’s good in fact but oh BOY I have never been a fan of Scotto even in her prime-- yeah-heresy-I know- and she’s pretty hard to take in this- it’s the Met Feb. 1986,right?

    • Rory Williams

      I’ve never heard it, so giving this a whirl. I think Scotto is onstage now, and, yes, not the most beautiful sound. Wiki-ed Zandonai to not much avail. It’s sure a lush sound in the orchestra. We’ll see!

  • Camille

    yes, she is singing her first little lovesick solo just now.

  • Camille

    Now, her ladies, Biancofiore, Garsenda, Adonella, and Altichiara are telling her to come to the window cause PAOLO IS COMING!

    • Rory Williams

      Wow, this is quite gorgeous and “OMG love struck” sounding. Thanks for expl, Camille

    • manou

      This of course could be read in any number of ways.

  • Camille

    Now she has seen Paolo and goes to her fainting couch….here comes the C!
    and there it goe…..

  • Camille

    the chord like Rosenkavalier…..the cello takes up the love theme, for the first time, which you will hear again and again. This is the first, and the only happy time. Well, except when the big kiss comes.

    • Rory Williams

      Wow.

    • Rory Williams

      Margaret’s precis is not very good.

  • Camille

    Now she is separating herself from her sisters and going slowly towards him, she takes a large vermilion rose, and offers it to Paolo Malatesta.

    Love, al primo colpo

    • Rory Williams

      OK, guy music here.

  • Camille

    Her little sister, Samaritana, goes with her head down and crying back up the stairs. She knows she has lost her beloved Franny.

  • Camille

    It’s so beautiful and romantic. I am so über happy to see it in person after all these many years. I don’t even care if a dog barks Paolo out.

  • Camille

    Sorry, I’ll stop, but I just am so excited to hear the first time in the theatre after having loved it for forty years. It’s a thrill for me.

    • Rory Williams

      DON’T STOP!!!!!!

  • Rory Williams

    Wiki not all that helpful on the actual people. But love that Dante faints from pity at Francesca’s story.

  • Camille

    First reiteration of love theme you just heard now.

    • Rory Williams

      I am really enjoying this. You can hear how these composers sort of invent what became movie music (not a putdown). Plus it whizzing along in a very 20th Cent way

  • bluecabochon

    Chat Chat Chat Chat

    • Camille

      oh, you mean chatroom, blue? all right I’ll go check into la case.

  • Camille

    This is a big eruption, and on the stage too, and Paolo miraculously escapes being killed by an arrow. Wait, I lost my place, I have to catch up….

  • Camille

    The arrow misses him so Francesca says it is a ‘sign from God’. “Perdonata ti sia, con grande amore”.

  • Camille

    That is the theme of her husband Gianciotto, a sort of Rigoletto type fun guy.

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    • Camille

      Is that Steve Buscemi? Or Neil S.?

      Or the Phantom of the Opera?

      Confusa io son.