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		<title>By: BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/04/17/teneste-la-chat/comment-page-8/#comment-129012</link>
		<dc:creator>BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks to iltenoredigrazia @69 for raising rumor out of the gutter and into the realm of divine fantasy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks to iltenoredigrazia @69 for raising rumor out of the gutter and into the realm of divine fantasy.</p>
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		<title>By: wladek</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/04/17/teneste-la-chat/comment-page-8/#comment-128996</link>
		<dc:creator>wladek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 21:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate this living in the past but---
somewhere on you tube is
Stratas and Quilico -who get
to the heart of Traviata as no one
else has -it is a Canadian TV bit.
Worth all the huffing and puffing going on now at the Met under the
umbrella of fine singing .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate this living in the past but&#8212;<br />
somewhere on you tube is<br />
Stratas and Quilico -who get<br />
to the heart of Traviata as no one<br />
else has -it is a Canadian TV bit.<br />
Worth all the huffing and puffing going on now at the Met under the<br />
umbrella of fine singing .</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valenti seems to always go for the high C, which is odd considering that his high notes are not the glory of the voice. And that&#039;s his problem. He&#039;s lyric tenor whose stregth isn&#039;t in his upper register. He did some nice, stylish things in his aria, but ulitimately, how far can he go with a so-so upper register?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valenti seems to always go for the high C, which is odd considering that his high notes are not the glory of the voice. And that&#8217;s his problem. He&#8217;s lyric tenor whose stregth isn&#8217;t in his upper register. He did some nice, stylish things in his aria, but ulitimately, how far can he go with a so-so upper register?</p>
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		<title>By: iltenoredigrazia</title>
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		<dc:creator>iltenoredigrazia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 15:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone asked during the broadcast chat about what happened to Annina after Violetta dies.   Actually, there&#039;s quite a bit of anecdotal information regarding many of the Traviata characters.

In particular, we know quite a bit about the Germont family.  M. Germont lost most of his social standing and small fortune after Alfredo&#039;s duel.   He, his wife and youngest daughter (Louise) moved to Paris, where he remained to the end a bitter and outspoken critic of Parisian society.  His heart gave up soon after Louise left the home without the blessing of a marriage.

Alfredo never changed his impulsive and romantic ways.  He became a poet (under the nom-de-plume Rodolfo) and is known to have shared quarters for some time in the Left Bank with the painter Marcello.   He was never fortunate in love.  Violetta was only the first of his loves to die of TB.   Some say that he came across Baron Douphol at some cafe one Christmas Eve but don&#039;t know whether they recognized each other.   Some say that he may have even stuck the Baron with the bill.   But this is all hearsay.

The entire family appears to have been afflicted by the curses of uninhibited romanticism.   A grand-uncle of M. Germont is said to have ruined himself over a loose woman ending up his days somewhere in Louisiana.   And one of Alfredo&#039;s cousins or brothers - also a poet - is rumored to have committed suicide in Germany over the love of a married woman.

We understand that Flora also crossed the ocean and became a business woman in Atlanta, where she was known as Belle Watson.

As for Annina herself, she lived a long life along the Seine under the soubriquette of La Frugola.   I think that she married the servant that says La cenna e pronta at Flora&#039;s party but I can&#039;t swear to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone asked during the broadcast chat about what happened to Annina after Violetta dies.   Actually, there&#8217;s quite a bit of anecdotal information regarding many of the Traviata characters.</p>
<p>In particular, we know quite a bit about the Germont family.  M. Germont lost most of his social standing and small fortune after Alfredo&#8217;s duel.   He, his wife and youngest daughter (Louise) moved to Paris, where he remained to the end a bitter and outspoken critic of Parisian society.  His heart gave up soon after Louise left the home without the blessing of a marriage.</p>
<p>Alfredo never changed his impulsive and romantic ways.  He became a poet (under the nom-de-plume Rodolfo) and is known to have shared quarters for some time in the Left Bank with the painter Marcello.   He was never fortunate in love.  Violetta was only the first of his loves to die of TB.   Some say that he came across Baron Douphol at some cafe one Christmas Eve but don&#8217;t know whether they recognized each other.   Some say that he may have even stuck the Baron with the bill.   But this is all hearsay.</p>
<p>The entire family appears to have been afflicted by the curses of uninhibited romanticism.   A grand-uncle of M. Germont is said to have ruined himself over a loose woman ending up his days somewhere in Louisiana.   And one of Alfredo&#8217;s cousins or brothers &#8211; also a poet &#8211; is rumored to have committed suicide in Germany over the love of a married woman.</p>
<p>We understand that Flora also crossed the ocean and became a business woman in Atlanta, where she was known as Belle Watson.</p>
<p>As for Annina herself, she lived a long life along the Seine under the soubriquette of La Frugola.   I think that she married the servant that says La cenna e pronta at Flora&#8217;s party but I can&#8217;t swear to it.</p>
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		<title>By: almavivante</title>
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		<dc:creator>almavivante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 15:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Musetta (#67), for the observations on Valenti in the house. Very helpful information. Let&#039;s agree to disagree on &quot;quasi&quot;--it&#039;s not a deal-breaker--as I think your reaction to his choice of coloring that word is as valid as mine. Your reasoning is sound; it&#039;s just that if I put myself in Alfredo&#039;s place at that moment, I really can imagine myself thinking, I feel as if I&#039;m almost in heaven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Musetta (#67), for the observations on Valenti in the house. Very helpful information. Let&#8217;s agree to disagree on &#8220;quasi&#8221;&#8211;it&#8217;s not a deal-breaker&#8211;as I think your reaction to his choice of coloring that word is as valid as mine. Your reasoning is sound; it&#8217;s just that if I put myself in Alfredo&#8217;s place at that moment, I really can imagine myself thinking, I feel as if I&#8217;m almost in heaven.</p>
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		<title>By: Musetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Musetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>almavivante @ 58: I saw Valenti three times, including the opening night and this Sat afternoon. I&#039;m afraid the broadcast was his worst. I, too, think it was (at least in part) nerves. It&#039;s unfortunate he decided to take the high C (again); on this particular occasion, I think it affected his singing even before the fatal moment. No need for this; he can skip it in the future. Fortunately AG has taken him under her wing and he has a lot of performances ahead of him, so he has time to get over it.
I confess I&#039;m surprised you like what he does with the &quot;quasi&quot; in &quot;io vivo quasi in ciel.&quot; This happens to be the one thing that made me cringe on every occasion. It seems to me that calling attention to &quot;quasi&quot; rather than to &quot;ciel&quot; in &quot;quasi in ciel&quot; is like calling attention to &quot;faux&quot; rather than to &quot;pearls&quot; in &quot;faux pearls.&quot; In most languages, one says one is in heaven (rather than &quot;almost&quot; in heaven) when one is very happy. My guess is that &quot;quasi&quot; is there for metric rather than semantic reasons, so it doesn&#039;t quite make sense to stress it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>almavivante @ 58: I saw Valenti three times, including the opening night and this Sat afternoon. I&#8217;m afraid the broadcast was his worst. I, too, think it was (at least in part) nerves. It&#8217;s unfortunate he decided to take the high C (again); on this particular occasion, I think it affected his singing even before the fatal moment. No need for this; he can skip it in the future. Fortunately AG has taken him under her wing and he has a lot of performances ahead of him, so he has time to get over it.<br />
I confess I&#8217;m surprised you like what he does with the &#8220;quasi&#8221; in &#8220;io vivo quasi in ciel.&#8221; This happens to be the one thing that made me cringe on every occasion. It seems to me that calling attention to &#8220;quasi&#8221; rather than to &#8220;ciel&#8221; in &#8220;quasi in ciel&#8221; is like calling attention to &#8220;faux&#8221; rather than to &#8220;pearls&#8221; in &#8220;faux pearls.&#8221; In most languages, one says one is in heaven (rather than &#8220;almost&#8221; in heaven) when one is very happy. My guess is that &#8220;quasi&#8221; is there for metric rather than semantic reasons, so it doesn&#8217;t quite make sense to stress it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruxton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 08:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Constantine- I could be wrong but if you heard Protti in the mid eighties, you were hearing an old man way past his best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Constantine- I could be wrong but if you heard Protti in the mid eighties, you were hearing an old man way past his best.</p>
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		<title>By: Nerva Nelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nerva Nelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 05:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; His approach is quite different from that of Kathryn Day&quot;

http://tinyurl.com/yznppet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; His approach is quite different from that of Kathryn Day&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/yznppet" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yznppet</a></p>
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		<title>By: Constantine A. Papas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constantine A. Papas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 03:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard Protti&#039;s Rigoletto in the mid 80s. The worst baritonal voice I ever heard, like MaCracken&#039;s Prophete, the worst tenor voice I ever heard. These two performances have remained the paradigm of inept, off-key poor singing for the rest of my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Protti&#8217;s Rigoletto in the mid 80s. The worst baritonal voice I ever heard, like MaCracken&#8217;s Prophete, the worst tenor voice I ever heard. These two performances have remained the paradigm of inept, off-key poor singing for the rest of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: uwsinnyc</title>
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		<dc:creator>uwsinnyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 03:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#49: 
&quot;come on guys…get out one of your dozen or more REAL Traviatas and refresh your memory about how this opera is supposed to sound…this was dreadful from start to finish. I can’t believe this is being presented as this season’s Metropolitan Opera La Traviata…&quot;

Obviously we were not listening to the same broadcast! I thought it was quite enjoyable. And what in your estimation are the dozen &quot;REAL&quot; traviatas that should be gotten out? I&#039;d be curious to see how many of them are still alive/singing today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#49:<br />
&#8220;come on guys…get out one of your dozen or more REAL Traviatas and refresh your memory about how this opera is supposed to sound…this was dreadful from start to finish. I can’t believe this is being presented as this season’s Metropolitan Opera La Traviata…&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously we were not listening to the same broadcast! I thought it was quite enjoyable. And what in your estimation are the dozen &#8220;REAL&#8221; traviatas that should be gotten out? I&#8217;d be curious to see how many of them are still alive/singing today.</p>
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		<title>By: Quanto Painy Fakor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quanto Painy Fakor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_ndQM2nMjY&amp;feature=channel</description>
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		<title>By: BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</title>
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		<dc:creator>BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, that would be a cool contest -- &quot;What line in what aria is Scooby singing in the picture?&quot;  I nominate &quot;Celeste A- eeeeeeeeeeeeeee&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, that would be a cool contest &#8212; &#8220;What line in what aria is Scooby singing in the picture?&#8221;  I nominate &#8220;Celeste A- eeeeeeeeeeeeeee&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</title>
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		<dc:creator>BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He could also help Simone Kermes with her facial expressions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He could also help Simone Kermes with her facial expressions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ercole Farnese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ercole Farnese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QPFC # 57.  Finally a video that caught my full attention 
(I am joking, I find all your visual suggestions interesting...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QPFC # 57.  Finally a video that caught my full attention<br />
(I am joking, I find all your visual suggestions interesting&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: almavivante</title>
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		<dc:creator>almavivante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 23:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: 51 -- It&#039;s unfortunate that this was the Valenti performance that went out on a broadcast. Yes, &quot;O mio rimorso&quot; was his undoing, and some will remember only this aspect and nothing else, although there were other things to admire, such as the hushed, enthralled effect on &quot;quasi&quot; in &quot;io vivo quasi in ciel,&quot; as if Alfredo is thunderstruck by his good luck to have Violetta for his own. I wonder whether someone who saw an earlier performance in the house can tell us whether he fared better on that occasion. Perhaps I&#039;m too forgiving but one would like to think that this being his debut season and today&#039;s his first Met broadcast, that nerves may have taken a toll. (Similarly, the Chinese soprano who sang Aida recently was undone by &quot;O patria mia&quot; for the broadcast, though I saw her in the house earlier in the week, and there was much to admire in her performance, including some lovely pianissimi--perhaps not Caballe-caliber, but nonetheless pleasurable.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: 51 &#8212; It&#8217;s unfortunate that this was the Valenti performance that went out on a broadcast. Yes, &#8220;O mio rimorso&#8221; was his undoing, and some will remember only this aspect and nothing else, although there were other things to admire, such as the hushed, enthralled effect on &#8220;quasi&#8221; in &#8220;io vivo quasi in ciel,&#8221; as if Alfredo is thunderstruck by his good luck to have Violetta for his own. I wonder whether someone who saw an earlier performance in the house can tell us whether he fared better on that occasion. Perhaps I&#8217;m too forgiving but one would like to think that this being his debut season and today&#8217;s his first Met broadcast, that nerves may have taken a toll. (Similarly, the Chinese soprano who sang Aida recently was undone by &#8220;O patria mia&#8221; for the broadcast, though I saw her in the house earlier in the week, and there was much to admire in her performance, including some lovely pianissimi&#8211;perhaps not Caballe-caliber, but nonetheless pleasurable.)</p>
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		<title>By: Quanto Painy Fakor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quanto Painy Fakor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 23:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let Scooby help him with his breathing:
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKgdAOQWQRE&amp;feature=channel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let Scooby help him with his breathing:<br />
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		<title>By: No Expert</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Expert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 23:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who needs HD? 

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkybIjpT9Tg</description>
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		<title>By: wenarto</title>
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		<dc:creator>wenarto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 23:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>finally....teneste le Matt!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>finally&#8230;.teneste le Matt!<br />
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		<title>By: armerjacquino</title>
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		<dc:creator>armerjacquino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 23:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but could he sing Tom Jones? ;-)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but could he sing Tom Jones? <img src='http://parterre.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bassoprofundo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bassoprofundo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 23:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no question that Protti was an exemplary voice.  But in an era where he competed with Bastianini, he was not as appreciated.  Today he would be the greatest baritone on stage, with no competition whatsoever.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no question that Protti was an exemplary voice.  But in an era where he competed with Bastianini, he was not as appreciated.  Today he would be the greatest baritone on stage, with no competition whatsoever.  </p>
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		<title>By: armerjacquino</title>
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		<dc:creator>armerjacquino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 23:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mrmyster- why the exclamation mark? Scotto was a noted Gilda in the first, leggiero period of her career. And I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d be beating down the door to see or hear Protti, in any era, fine voice though he had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mrmyster- why the exclamation mark? Scotto was a noted Gilda in the first, leggiero period of her career. And I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d be beating down the door to see or hear Protti, in any era, fine voice though he had.</p>
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		<title>By: aulus agerius</title>
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		<dc:creator>aulus agerius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 23:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alfredo IS callow, for heaven&#039;s sake!! Give &#039;im a break! 

Before the high C I was going: &quot;don&#039;t do it JV, don&#039;t do it; Angela didn&#039;t do hers; you don&#039;t have to do it, doesn&#039;t sound like it&#039;s there&quot;.......and he tried it and it Was there, not wonderful, and short but it didn&#039;t crack. I still think he shouldn&#039;t have done it. I have heard him crack 2 or 3 high notes - they&#039;ve  been very brief &#039;interruptions of tone&#039; at the beginning and then the note is there sometimes followed by a dimenuendo which doesn&#039;t indicate lack of support, does it? Someone described him as fragile - I think that is descriptive and he&#039;s a lot less that than he used to be. Sometimes it sounds unsupported - I couldn&#039;t say if that is true or not but it does sound fragile, kind of wavery. Aragall sounded that way to me at times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alfredo IS callow, for heaven&#8217;s sake!! Give &#8216;im a break! </p>
<p>Before the high C I was going: &#8220;don&#8217;t do it JV, don&#8217;t do it; Angela didn&#8217;t do hers; you don&#8217;t have to do it, doesn&#8217;t sound like it&#8217;s there&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;.and he tried it and it Was there, not wonderful, and short but it didn&#8217;t crack. I still think he shouldn&#8217;t have done it. I have heard him crack 2 or 3 high notes &#8211; they&#8217;ve  been very brief &#8216;interruptions of tone&#8217; at the beginning and then the note is there sometimes followed by a dimenuendo which doesn&#8217;t indicate lack of support, does it? Someone described him as fragile &#8211; I think that is descriptive and he&#8217;s a lot less that than he used to be. Sometimes it sounds unsupported &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t say if that is true or not but it does sound fragile, kind of wavery. Aragall sounded that way to me at times.</p>
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		<title>By: SilvestriWoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>SilvestriWoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 23:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll also add that conductors - especially Slatkin - should take lessons from listening to Giulini.  He truly accompanies Callas, following her lead in Amami, Alfredo yet never letting it drag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll also add that conductors &#8211; especially Slatkin &#8211; should take lessons from listening to Giulini.  He truly accompanies Callas, following her lead in Amami, Alfredo yet never letting it drag.</p>
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		<title>By: operaddict</title>
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		<dc:creator>operaddict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 23:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valenti...Lamenti...and THIS is the Richard Tucker winner??? WTF??? Like a bad comprimario...strained top, dry toned, pinched...practically kacked the aria...and Hampson...helplessly un-Verdi-like...weird, throaty voice...so artificial...so pompous...OMG...Angela sounded OK...if nothing to write home about...Hooty,dry, strained small-scaled singing...come on guys...get out one of your dozen or more REAL Traviatas and refresh your memory about how this opera is supposed to sound...this was dreadful from start to finish. I can&#039;t believe this is being presented as this season&#039;s Metropolitan Opera La Traviata...TO THIS WE&#039;VE COME...the Gods must be turning in their graves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valenti&#8230;Lamenti&#8230;and THIS is the Richard Tucker winner??? WTF??? Like a bad comprimario&#8230;strained top, dry toned, pinched&#8230;practically kacked the aria&#8230;and Hampson&#8230;helplessly un-Verdi-like&#8230;weird, throaty voice&#8230;so artificial&#8230;so pompous&#8230;OMG&#8230;Angela sounded OK&#8230;if nothing to write home about&#8230;Hooty,dry, strained small-scaled singing&#8230;come on guys&#8230;get out one of your dozen or more REAL Traviatas and refresh your memory about how this opera is supposed to sound&#8230;this was dreadful from start to finish. I can&#8217;t believe this is being presented as this season&#8217;s Metropolitan Opera La Traviata&#8230;TO THIS WE&#8217;VE COME&#8230;the Gods must be turning in their graves</p>
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		<title>By: SilvestriWoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>SilvestriWoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 23:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While waiting for the El, I happened upon the broadcast, a few minutes before Dite alla giovine.  Hampson was disappointing but AG was spot-on.  Sure, she takes a lot of grief (especially at this site!), but her Violetta was fantastic.  I loved her soft-grained singing and, clearly, she lives this role.  Amami, Alfredo finished just as my train arrived at my stop.  By that time, she had evoked tears - not an easy feat, especially while riding the El.  

All that said, though there have been many fine Violettas, one - for me - stands above all others, if for nothing else but this (most especially, for the emphasis on &quot;quanto&quot; rather than &quot;t&#039;amo&quot;):  httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYsNBSkGnMQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While waiting for the El, I happened upon the broadcast, a few minutes before Dite alla giovine.  Hampson was disappointing but AG was spot-on.  Sure, she takes a lot of grief (especially at this site!), but her Violetta was fantastic.  I loved her soft-grained singing and, clearly, she lives this role.  Amami, Alfredo finished just as my train arrived at my stop.  By that time, she had evoked tears -- not an easy feat, especially while riding the El.  </p>
<p>All that said, though there have been many fine Violettas, one -- for me -- stands above all others, if for nothing else but this (most especially, for the emphasis on &#8220;quanto&#8221; rather than &#8220;t&#8217;amo&#8221;):  <div style="text-align:center">
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		<title>By: mrmyster</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrmyster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aldo Protti could be a very fine singer - and he packed the goods to be
a &#039;Verdi baritone.&#039;  I heard him sing Rigoletto at the Philadelphia Academy
with Scotto (!) in the 1960s and he was very fine.  The great old music
critic in Philly, Max de Schaunsee, praised Protti as a baritone of the old
Italian school, the &quot;flower of the lips school,&quot; he said (new term to me 
for fine diction - nice!), and I can tell you if we had an Aldo Protti
singing today we&#039;d be busting down the doors to get in.
   Operaaddict #45:  Sad day? I heard only the first act, which thought
was quite OK - in spite of that callow tenor.  Can you explain further?
I thought Angela G. sounded like she would be fine all afternoon, but
I just don&#039;t need to hear another Traviata, esp. when the conductor is
only a little bit better than Slatkin. Is that what you mean?</description>
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a &#8216;Verdi baritone.&#8217;  I heard him sing Rigoletto at the Philadelphia Academy<br />
with Scotto (!) in the 1960s and he was very fine.  The great old music<br />
critic in Philly, Max de Schaunsee, praised Protti as a baritone of the old<br />
Italian school, the &#8220;flower of the lips school,&#8221; he said (new term to me<br />
for fine diction &#8211; nice!), and I can tell you if we had an Aldo Protti<br />
singing today we&#8217;d be busting down the doors to get in.<br />
   Operaaddict #45:  Sad day? I heard only the first act, which thought<br />
was quite OK &#8211; in spite of that callow tenor.  Can you explain further?<br />
I thought Angela G. sounded like she would be fine all afternoon, but<br />
I just don&#8217;t need to hear another Traviata, esp. when the conductor is<br />
only a little bit better than Slatkin. Is that what you mean?</p>
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		<title>By: rapt</title>
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		<dc:creator>rapt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinated by these opposing views of today&#039;s Traviata (and I wonder what went on in the chat room).  Note that there&#039;s no &quot;moderately good&quot; or &quot;barely passable,&quot; but only terrible or transporting (for me it was the latter).  Might that in itself indicate something about the performance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinated by these opposing views of today&#8217;s Traviata (and I wonder what went on in the chat room).  Note that there&#8217;s no &#8220;moderately good&#8221; or &#8220;barely passable,&#8221; but only terrible or transporting (for me it was the latter).  Might that in itself indicate something about the performance?</p>
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		<title>By: operaddict</title>
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		<dc:creator>operaddict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad day for Traviata</description>
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		<title>By: CruzSF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CruzSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liana &amp; iltenoredigrazia: thanks for the recommendations. I can always count on Parterrians to suggest ways to empty my wallet. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liana &amp; iltenoredigrazia: thanks for the recommendations. I can always count on Parterrians to suggest ways to empty my wallet. <img src='http://parterre.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Olivero is my Drug of Choice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olivero is my Drug of Choice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and now for something completely different(and ot)

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5-WVKvRCgY&amp;playnext_from=TL&amp;videos=LiUz4j6LfkU&amp;feature=feedu</description>
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