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		<title>By: Andrew_Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew_Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 09:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to everyone for your comments. I have posted replies to many of them on my own blog &lt;a href=&#039;http://tenorrichards.blogspot.com/2010/08/parterre-box-responses.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt;.

Andrew Richards
aka Twin Peaks Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to everyone for your comments. I have posted replies to many of them on my own blog <a href='http://tenorrichards.blogspot.com/2010/08/parterre-box-responses.html' rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>
<p>Andrew Richards<br />
aka Twin Peaks Bob</p>
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		<title>By: SanDiegoSuzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>SanDiegoSuzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 01:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended two performances of the Bieto Parsifal in Stuttgart last April.  I went with some trepidation having seen cuts of previous Bieto productions.  What I experienced was possibly the most affecting production of opera in my some forty years of opera attendance. The dramatic force of the production built continually and I was simply amazed by how well the production communicated the universal mythical elements of Parsifal.  Perhaps because I saw the production well into the run (the faint of heart having been warned away), but I found that the audience was totally in sync with the production.  

Because the any Bieto production is such a personal statement by the director, the performances of the singers are not as commonly discussed.  However, it should be noted that in the Stuttgart Parsifal, the cast was as close to perfect as a cast can get.  Especially notable were: Andrew Richards as Parsifal, Stephen Milling as Gurnemanz, Gregg Baker as Amfortas and Christiane Ivan as Kundry.  If you are not familiar with the charismatic Andrew Richards, check out the clips of his performances on YouTube and read his amusing and insightful blog at http://tenorrichards.blogspot.com/.  Folks following this thread will especially enjoy his blogs on the Parsifal rehearsals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended two performances of the Bieto Parsifal in Stuttgart last April.  I went with some trepidation having seen cuts of previous Bieto productions.  What I experienced was possibly the most affecting production of opera in my some forty years of opera attendance. The dramatic force of the production built continually and I was simply amazed by how well the production communicated the universal mythical elements of Parsifal.  Perhaps because I saw the production well into the run (the faint of heart having been warned away), but I found that the audience was totally in sync with the production.  </p>
<p>Because the any Bieto production is such a personal statement by the director, the performances of the singers are not as commonly discussed.  However, it should be noted that in the Stuttgart Parsifal, the cast was as close to perfect as a cast can get.  Especially notable were: Andrew Richards as Parsifal, Stephen Milling as Gurnemanz, Gregg Baker as Amfortas and Christiane Ivan as Kundry.  If you are not familiar with the charismatic Andrew Richards, check out the clips of his performances on YouTube and read his amusing and insightful blog at <a href="http://tenorrichards.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://tenorrichards.blogspot.com/</a>.  Folks following this thread will especially enjoy his blogs on the Parsifal rehearsals.</p>
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		<title>By: luvtennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>luvtennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Understood, La C., but your comment did suggest a sudden bent for Parsifal grunge that just didn&#039;t make sense to me.  

Also, while I agree that Parsifal cannot be read as &quot;Buddha II, The Revenge&quot; (&quot;This time it&#039;s personal!&quot;), I think that Parsifal, like the Buddha of legend was a young man of tremendous intrinsic gifts who learned the truth of his gift (and of the world) by experiencing the falsity of the world of phenomena.

Kind of like if Mother Teresa had started off as a star on an MTV &quot;reality show&quot; like &quot;The Hills.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understood, La C., but your comment did suggest a sudden bent for Parsifal grunge that just didn&#8217;t make sense to me.  </p>
<p>Also, while I agree that Parsifal cannot be read as &#8220;Buddha II, The Revenge&#8221; (&#8220;This time it&#8217;s personal!&#8221;), I think that Parsifal, like the Buddha of legend was a young man of tremendous intrinsic gifts who learned the truth of his gift (and of the world) by experiencing the falsity of the world of phenomena.</p>
<p>Kind of like if Mother Teresa had started off as a star on an MTV &#8220;reality show&#8221; like &#8220;The Hills.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: La Cieca</title>
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		<dc:creator>La Cieca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t say realism, I said &quot;dirty.&quot; Unrealistic and even mythic events can certainly happen in dirt and rags. 

I would further question your assertion that &quot;the real world of phenomena is unreal&quot; etc. in &lt;I&gt;Parsifal&lt;/i&gt;. He doesn&#039;t gain enlightenment through meditation, but rather by suffering  &lt;I&gt;in the real world&lt;/I&gt;. Parsifal&#039;s real qualification to become the new guardian of the Grail is that he is not working from any abstract philosophical basis, but an intuited empathy gained through real experience.

Though Wagner was influence by his readings in Buddhism (and more so in the same vein via Schopenhauer), his own thought (as expressed in &lt;I&gt;Parsifal&lt;/I&gt; was not strictly Buddhist. Essentially his approach was syncretic, combining elements of Buddhism and mystical Catholicism with the early humanistic philosophy inherent in the Parsifal stories he used as source material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say realism, I said &#8220;dirty.&#8221; Unrealistic and even mythic events can certainly happen in dirt and rags. </p>
<p>I would further question your assertion that &#8220;the real world of phenomena is unreal&#8221; etc. in <i>Parsifal</i>. He doesn&#8217;t gain enlightenment through meditation, but rather by suffering  <i>in the real world</i>. Parsifal&#8217;s real qualification to become the new guardian of the Grail is that he is not working from any abstract philosophical basis, but an intuited empathy gained through real experience.</p>
<p>Though Wagner was influence by his readings in Buddhism (and more so in the same vein via Schopenhauer), his own thought (as expressed in <i>Parsifal</i> was not strictly Buddhist. Essentially his approach was syncretic, combining elements of Buddhism and mystical Catholicism with the early humanistic philosophy inherent in the Parsifal stories he used as source material.</p>
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		<title>By: luvtennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>luvtennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>La:

I have to disagree!!!  Do you really mean to suggest that Wagner had anything as outre as social realism in mind when he wrote PARSIFAL???  Heck, even the SOCIAL REALISM of his time was romanticized and sanitized - Dickens, Thackeray. . .

Please explain how a realistic setting has any special validity in Parsifal (over, say, the more typical romanticized mis en scene) given the obvious mythic, fairy tale, NON_REALISTIC (indeed one of the whole points of P., if you ask me, is that the real world of phenomena is UNREAL and false).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La:</p>
<p>I have to disagree!!!  Do you really mean to suggest that Wagner had anything as outre as social realism in mind when he wrote PARSIFAL???  Heck, even the SOCIAL REALISM of his time was romanticized and sanitized &#8211; Dickens, Thackeray. . .</p>
<p>Please explain how a realistic setting has any special validity in Parsifal (over, say, the more typical romanticized mis en scene) given the obvious mythic, fairy tale, NON_REALISTIC (indeed one of the whole points of P., if you ask me, is that the real world of phenomena is UNREAL and false).</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
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		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 04:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent! Just be sure to throw in some plane tickets. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent! Just be sure to throw in some plane tickets. <img src='http://parterre.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ruxton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 01:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I get any free tickets kashania I&#039;ll be sure to give them to you :)</description>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betsy_Ann,

I liked &quot;end&quot; better than &quot;hand&quot;.It has a kinkier feel to it.And it also has an ambiguous
 quality. Who&#039;s &quot;end&quot;?  Lassie or Klytie?

Sometimes it&#039;s best to go with your original thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betsy_Ann,</p>
<p>I liked &#8220;end&#8221; better than &#8220;hand&#8221;.It has a kinkier feel to it.And it also has an ambiguous<br />
 quality. Who&#8217;s &#8220;end&#8221;?  Lassie or Klytie?</p>
<p>Sometimes it&#8217;s best to go with your original thought.</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
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		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the clips I&#039;ve seen of his productions (&lt;i&gt;Don Giovanni&lt;/i&gt; and this &lt;i&gt;Parsifal&lt;/i&gt;), Bieito&#039;s visual aesthetic is not always something I like but he is clearly a director with fascinating ideas and strong ability to get his singers to engage in the presentation of those ideas. I would gladly go to experience one of his productions first-hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the clips I&#8217;ve seen of his productions (<i>Don Giovanni</i> and this <i>Parsifal</i>), Bieito&#8217;s visual aesthetic is not always something I like but he is clearly a director with fascinating ideas and strong ability to get his singers to engage in the presentation of those ideas. I would gladly go to experience one of his productions first-hand.</p>
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		<title>By: m. croche</title>
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		<dc:creator>m. croche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall a Darmstadt Dutchman where Senta, instead of throwing herself into the sea at the opera&#039;s conclusion, pulled out a revolver, first contemplated shooting herself, then plugged Daland and Erik, tossed the gun aside and did an elegant turn as Ginger Rogers to the Dutchman&#039;s Fred Astaire as the curtain fell.

Does that count, jv?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall a Darmstadt Dutchman where Senta, instead of throwing herself into the sea at the opera&#8217;s conclusion, pulled out a revolver, first contemplated shooting herself, then plugged Daland and Erik, tossed the gun aside and did an elegant turn as Ginger Rogers to the Dutchman&#8217;s Fred Astaire as the curtain fell.</p>
<p>Does that count, jv?</p>
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		<title>By: Veloce49</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veloce49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inspired by George Romero!!

I&#039;ll assume these are highlights ad can therefore dismiss it as more eurotrash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inspired by George Romero!!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll assume these are highlights ad can therefore dismiss it as more eurotrash.</p>
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		<title>By: La Cieca</title>
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		<dc:creator>La Cieca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think this is the talk of  someone who never &quot;knew the existence of the opera, heard it, or studied its intricacies.&quot;  (Note that Bieito is not speaking in his native Spanish but a language he has in common with most European viewers. I&#039;m not sure how strong his German is: apparently not fluent enough to carry on a televised interview.)

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq4NRc4O_xw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this is the talk of  someone who never &#8220;knew the existence of the opera, heard it, or studied its intricacies.&#8221;  (Note that Bieito is not speaking in his native Spanish but a language he has in common with most European viewers. I&#8217;m not sure how strong his German is: apparently not fluent enough to carry on a televised interview.)</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That I think EXPLAINS EVERYTHING... Q.P.Y! 
These regie jerks get commissioned to &#039;do an opera&#039;. Did someone perhaps check out whether they even knew the existence of the opera, heard it, or studied its intricacies? NOPE! So then, their confused conceptual vomit is staged and silly people sit around and try to nut out what the discernible strange residue chunks in the mental slop, are intellectually all about!!! L.O.L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That I think EXPLAINS EVERYTHING&#8230; Q.P.Y!<br />
These regie jerks get commissioned to &#8216;do an opera&#8217;. Did someone perhaps check out whether they even knew the existence of the opera, heard it, or studied its intricacies? NOPE! So then, their confused conceptual vomit is staged and silly people sit around and try to nut out what the discernible strange residue chunks in the mental slop, are intellectually all about!!! L.O.L</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The acting standard looks like ham acting from a alternative school bunch of naughty kids trying to shock. Putting on a self written play to show their equally fucked up parents attending, they are feeling still little &#039;out of it&#039; and don&#039;t know how to communicate with the World. Their kindergarten standard  plagiarized  version of &#039;Hair&#039;, with a psychotic touch!

P.S To think people here want to discuss the merits of such shit in the first place....or make statements like &quot; Gee, I would love to see this Parsifal &#039;F..................k!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The acting standard looks like ham acting from a alternative school bunch of naughty kids trying to shock. Putting on a self written play to show their equally fucked up parents attending, they are feeling still little &#8216;out of it&#8217; and don&#8217;t know how to communicate with the World. Their kindergarten standard  plagiarized  version of &#8216;Hair&#8217;, with a psychotic touch!</p>
<p>P.S To think people here want to discuss the merits of such shit in the first place&#8230;.or make statements like &#8221; Gee, I would love to see this Parsifal &#8216;F&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;k!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Assassination of Wagner&#039;s Parsifal as Performed by the Inmates of Bieto&#039;s Stuttgart Insane Asylum. Check list; Nutter with flame thrower, strait jacket costuming, delusions, cruel predatory behavior, nudity, violence, filth, decay, zombie dementia acting...........perfect!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Assassination of Wagner&#8217;s Parsifal as Performed by the Inmates of Bieto&#8217;s Stuttgart Insane Asylum. Check list; Nutter with flame thrower, strait jacket costuming, delusions, cruel predatory behavior, nudity, violence, filth, decay, zombie dementia acting&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..perfect!</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dirty bugger didn&#039;t wash his hands either in that first clip! Probably wanting to spread the &#039;production disease&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dirty bugger didn&#8217;t wash his hands either in that first clip! Probably wanting to spread the &#8216;production disease&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Buster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hard to judge on the basis of this clip - some productions of Parsifal just need a little time. People still discover new things in the Stefan Herheim Parsifal, for example - and that was first done in Bayreuth in 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard to judge on the basis of this clip &#8211; some productions of Parsifal just need a little time. People still discover new things in the Stefan Herheim Parsifal, for example &#8211; and that was first done in Bayreuth in 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Jikes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Jikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the realm of verbal theatrical coinage, Graham is in her own &#039;divine&#039; authority. My favorite ballet title of all time is her &quot;Deaths and Entrances.&quot;
Cara Cieca, you surfed on her wave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the realm of verbal theatrical coinage, Graham is in her own &#8216;divine&#8217; authority. My favorite ballet title of all time is her &#8220;Deaths and Entrances.&#8221;<br />
Cara Cieca, you surfed on her wave.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Jikes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Jikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20.1 roars - great!</description>
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		<title>By: La Cieca</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/07/29/a-thousand-words-is-worth-a-picture/comment-page-3/#comment-142733</link>
		<dc:creator>La Cieca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I could give the kids advice, what I would say is: you have to trust and believe 100% and give all you can. What you end up doing on stage may be ridiculous on an intellectual level, but the public is going to react primarily to the level of commitment in the performance. If you believe passionately in what you&#039;re doing onstage, then the public will believe in you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I could give the kids advice, what I would say is: you have to trust and believe 100% and give all you can. What you end up doing on stage may be ridiculous on an intellectual level, but the public is going to react primarily to the level of commitment in the performance. If you believe passionately in what you&#8217;re doing onstage, then the public will believe in you.</p>
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		<title>By: Quanto Painy Fakor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quanto Painy Fakor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes but you have not see the second act of Yeargan&#039;s design for Zambello&#039;s Walkuere. Looks like unfinished portions of I-95 in the 1990&#039;s or post earthquake in Los Angeles - but then that was the &quot;American Ring&quot;.

I agree with you that Bieto&#039;s Parsifal makes one really think about the opera and Wagner&#039;s genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but you have not see the second act of Yeargan&#8217;s design for Zambello&#8217;s Walkuere. Looks like unfinished portions of I-95 in the 1990&#8242;s or post earthquake in Los Angeles &#8211; but then that was the &#8220;American Ring&#8221;.</p>
<p>I agree with you that Bieto&#8217;s Parsifal makes one really think about the opera and Wagner&#8217;s genius.</p>
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		<title>By: La Cieca</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/07/29/a-thousand-words-is-worth-a-picture/comment-page-3/#comment-142731</link>
		<dc:creator>La Cieca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good question. There&#039;s a difference between commitment onstage and &quot;investment&quot; offstage. In other words, the singer might well buy enthusiastically into the process created by the director, how rehearsals are run and how excited the director is about his own work, but meanwhile not necessarily agree with the director on every intellectual idea that goes into the production.

The creative process is about just that, process, more than it is about content. This is particularly true for recreative artists like singers. Or actors, who from time to time do scripts of no particular literary value because they enjoy taking on the various acting challenges posed by a shallow but exciting play.

Another point here, one that I posted to Richards&#039; blog earlier today, is what Martha Graham called &quot;the divine discontent.&quot; Artists are chronically dissatisfied with their work and think it falls short of their ideal of what it might have been. As such, they&#039;re never really happy with the work in retrospect and may come up with various reasons why it didn&#039;t go they way they hoped it would. But according to Graham (who cribbed the idea from Goethe) that sense of dissatisfaction is in fact to be cherished because it&#039;s the goad that leads the artist on to take on new and greater challenges. Satisfaction would lead to complacency and so no more art.

So when I talk about commitment of singers, dedication and all that, it&#039;s not referring to loyalty to a director&#039;s personality or even belief in the ideas he spouts. Rather, that sense of passion arises from the artist&#039;s striving to surpass his limitations,  to overcome the &quot;divine dissatisfaction.&quot; It&#039;s an impossible task, but it&#039;s what Emerson was counseling when he said &quot;hitch your wagon to a star.&quot;

That&#039;s my take, anyway. I would venture to say that this &quot;divine dissatisfaction&quot; is one of the forces that tempts singers to attempt roles for which they are not ideally suitable-- which, again, inspires some of the greatest opera performances. This has its dangers too of course, but as La Cieca has said elsewhere, all life is a gamble, and the best we can do is to try to understand the odds before placing our bets. (Say, is that a neat metaphor or what?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good question. There&#8217;s a difference between commitment onstage and &#8220;investment&#8221; offstage. In other words, the singer might well buy enthusiastically into the process created by the director, how rehearsals are run and how excited the director is about his own work, but meanwhile not necessarily agree with the director on every intellectual idea that goes into the production.</p>
<p>The creative process is about just that, process, more than it is about content. This is particularly true for recreative artists like singers. Or actors, who from time to time do scripts of no particular literary value because they enjoy taking on the various acting challenges posed by a shallow but exciting play.</p>
<p>Another point here, one that I posted to Richards&#8217; blog earlier today, is what Martha Graham called &#8220;the divine discontent.&#8221; Artists are chronically dissatisfied with their work and think it falls short of their ideal of what it might have been. As such, they&#8217;re never really happy with the work in retrospect and may come up with various reasons why it didn&#8217;t go they way they hoped it would. But according to Graham (who cribbed the idea from Goethe) that sense of dissatisfaction is in fact to be cherished because it&#8217;s the goad that leads the artist on to take on new and greater challenges. Satisfaction would lead to complacency and so no more art.</p>
<p>So when I talk about commitment of singers, dedication and all that, it&#8217;s not referring to loyalty to a director&#8217;s personality or even belief in the ideas he spouts. Rather, that sense of passion arises from the artist&#8217;s striving to surpass his limitations,  to overcome the &#8220;divine dissatisfaction.&#8221; It&#8217;s an impossible task, but it&#8217;s what Emerson was counseling when he said &#8220;hitch your wagon to a star.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my take, anyway. I would venture to say that this &#8220;divine dissatisfaction&#8221; is one of the forces that tempts singers to attempt roles for which they are not ideally suitable&#8211; which, again, inspires some of the greatest opera performances. This has its dangers too of course, but as La Cieca has said elsewhere, all life is a gamble, and the best we can do is to try to understand the odds before placing our bets. (Say, is that a neat metaphor or what?)</p>
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		<title>By: Quanto Painy Fakor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quanto Painy Fakor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richards is sort of the second coming of Jacques Trussel, only 100x better in every way. I wonder if kids in conservatories these days have any idea of what to expect when they are faced with reality of a Bieto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richards is sort of the second coming of Jacques Trussel, only 100x better in every way. I wonder if kids in conservatories these days have any idea of what to expect when they are faced with reality of a Bieto.</p>
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		<title>By: Quanto Painy Fakor</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/07/29/a-thousand-words-is-worth-a-picture/comment-page-3/#comment-142729</link>
		<dc:creator>Quanto Painy Fakor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bieto only does that which he is asked to do. In other words, it&#039;s not like he says I want to do a Carmen or a Wozzeck and they do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bieto only does that which he is asked to do. In other words, it&#8217;s not like he says I want to do a Carmen or a Wozzeck and they do it.</p>
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		<title>By: papopera</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/07/29/a-thousand-words-is-worth-a-picture/comment-page-3/#comment-142727</link>
		<dc:creator>papopera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dégoutant.....Mr Beito should be beheaded</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dégoutant&#8230;..Mr Beito should be beheaded</p>
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		<title>By: BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/07/29/a-thousand-words-is-worth-a-picture/comment-page-3/#comment-142726</link>
		<dc:creator>BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;end&quot; should have been &quot;hand&quot;.

I think.

. . . on the other hand. . . .

(or end)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;end&#8221; should have been &#8220;hand&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think.</p>
<p>. . . on the other hand. . . .</p>
<p>(or end)</p>
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		<title>By: BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/07/29/a-thousand-words-is-worth-a-picture/comment-page-3/#comment-142725</link>
		<dc:creator>BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooooo.  Yeeeesssss.  An &lt;i&gt;Elektra&lt;/i&gt; where the palace walls open to reveal Klytemnestra in primal scream therapy, and ending with Lassie licking her end as she and Elektra embrace tearfully.

Or a &lt;i&gt;Forza del Destino&lt;/i&gt; with Don Carlo saying, &quot;Fuck it.  I&#039;ve got an Econ test tomorrow.  You and Leonora do what you want.&quot;

These unhappy endings are such downers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooo.  Yeeeesssss.  An <i>Elektra</i> where the palace walls open to reveal Klytemnestra in primal scream therapy, and ending with Lassie licking her end as she and Elektra embrace tearfully.</p>
<p>Or a <i>Forza del Destino</i> with Don Carlo saying, &#8220;Fuck it.  I&#8217;ve got an Econ test tomorrow.  You and Leonora do what you want.&#8221;</p>
<p>These unhappy endings are such downers.</p>
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		<title>By: yappy</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/07/29/a-thousand-words-is-worth-a-picture/comment-page-3/#comment-142724</link>
		<dc:creator>yappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word.

&lt;i&gt;I note for those who remain staunchly against &quot;Euro-trash&quot; that I&#039;ve never had an artistic experience where the Big Issues of our time have been so vehemently talked about, by the artist, in the press, in the foyer. I now understand how important it is to not simply consume art, but argue and fight and disagree and discuss what we take in, what we worship.&lt;/i&gt;
(&lt;a href=&quot;http://tenorrichards.blogspot.com/2010/04/i-feel-you.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt;.)

And more (including a crossover mp3) &lt;a href=&quot;http://tenorrichards.blogspot.com/2010/03/eternally-grateful.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

As an occasional reader I was wondering what had happened to Mr. Richards with that Regie Rant post. Thanks La Cieca. He&#039;s simply human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Word.</p>
<p><i>I note for those who remain staunchly against &#8220;Euro-trash&#8221; that I&#8217;ve never had an artistic experience where the Big Issues of our time have been so vehemently talked about, by the artist, in the press, in the foyer. I now understand how important it is to not simply consume art, but argue and fight and disagree and discuss what we take in, what we worship.</i><br />
(<a href="http://tenorrichards.blogspot.com/2010/04/i-feel-you.html" rel="nofollow">Here</a>.)</p>
<p>And more (including a crossover mp3) <a href="http://tenorrichards.blogspot.com/2010/03/eternally-grateful.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>As an occasional reader I was wondering what had happened to Mr. Richards with that Regie Rant post. Thanks La Cieca. He&#8217;s simply human.</p>
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		<title>By: jvhovig</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/07/29/a-thousand-words-is-worth-a-picture/comment-page-3/#comment-142722</link>
		<dc:creator>jvhovig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I guess in keeping with the konzept, it would need to be the cigarettes that were sprouting new leaves, wouldn&#039;t it. This regie stuff sure is difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I guess in keeping with the konzept, it would need to be the cigarettes that were sprouting new leaves, wouldn&#8217;t it. This regie stuff sure is difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: jvhovig</title>
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		<dc:creator>jvhovig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed the part of the video above where Carmen was given a flower instead of a knife -- or where, upon ultimately falling, her immortal and whitened soul was transported to heaven as previously-deadened staffs of wood sprouted leaves -- but I shall await patiently for further reviews of the production before saying more. 

I also hope my comment was not misconstrued. I simply wondered whether it would be considered an equal act of genius to turn a seemingly bleak work like Wozzeck into an uplifting one, as it currently seems to be when turning a purportedly uplifting one like Parsifal into a &quot;questioning&quot; one. In other words, I only wonder whether regie-genius is only defined in one direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed the part of the video above where Carmen was given a flower instead of a knife &#8212; or where, upon ultimately falling, her immortal and whitened soul was transported to heaven as previously-deadened staffs of wood sprouted leaves &#8212; but I shall await patiently for further reviews of the production before saying more. </p>
<p>I also hope my comment was not misconstrued. I simply wondered whether it would be considered an equal act of genius to turn a seemingly bleak work like Wozzeck into an uplifting one, as it currently seems to be when turning a purportedly uplifting one like Parsifal into a &#8220;questioning&#8221; one. In other words, I only wonder whether regie-genius is only defined in one direction.</p>
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