Comments on: Lascivious wassails

By: La Valkyrietta

La Valkyrietta — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:55:23 +0000

Oh, oh, this time the symbols did not work. Anyway, Leyla has a cedilla in her original name, below the “s” in Ayse (another one that was reproduced under the “c” in Ceyrekgil). The caron is like a little boat on top. I tried it on the “c” in Garanca and the “c” in hacek. No go.

By: La Valkyrietta

La Valkyrietta — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:51:35 +0000

Garan?a does not have a cedilla, she has a caron or ha?ek. The difference is sort of like the difference between the feathers in the chapeau and the feather boa trailing on the floor. Leyla Gencer has none of that, unless you go to the original, and then you find some cedillas, Ay?e Leyla Çeyrekgil. I’m sure if an aspiring soprano reads parterre, we will have soon a very difficult name to write.

By: callasorphan

callasorphan — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:46:05 +0000

Thank you Kashina for that; it is as wonderful as I remember. Thank you Lucky Pierre for the tip.

By: BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK

BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:18:14 +0000

Oh.

Huh!

Well, I don’t like to DN but as my DF Miss Marple said, “It’s so out of character.” La Cieca might forget her Fisherman’s Friend but not her destination. Did anyone check her garments for some substance smeared in the seams a la Medea?

I’m just not satisfied; I think someone dune her in for her hatpin.

By: richard

richard — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:47:02 +0000

Sanford, in the late 60s, Moffo started having serious problems with her extreme top. I saw her in about a half dozen Traviatas from about 1970 on as well as a Juliette and a Lucia and the top was very tight, constricted and prone to cracking. Sempre Libera was nowhere as effective as it was earlier, anything about high c was squeezed and she cracked the eflat in most of the performances I saw her in.

I had heard she was bipolar, don’t know if it was true or not, but if she was being medicated for it, that may have been an explanation for some of her problems. An awful lot of the stuff prescribed has the side of effect of causing dry mouth. I can’t imagine how a singer would deal with that

By: Famous Quickly

Famous Quickly — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:10:01 +0000

The supreme Eboli is to be heard on the 1960 Salzburg CDs with Jurinac, Fernandi Bastiannini and Christoff.

Now I could sing Giulio Neri’s part *tomorrow* ; it’s a question of color and tessitura.

By: La Valkyrietta

La Valkyrietta — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:03:28 +0000

It’s a sad story based on Bernstein backwards, “It ain’t there anymore”.

La Cieca, you could go to where they hang out after the opera and Schumann Heink is always eating meat with lots of potatoes and ask Ernestine to request some encores from them. Anyway, here is a nice consolation.

By: MontyNostry

MontyNostry — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:48:45 +0000

As did Miss Gencer.

By: MontyNostry

MontyNostry — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:48:09 +0000

But Miss Garanca survives without her cedilla.

By: MontyNostry

MontyNostry — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:45:57 +0000

I only have ears for Shirl there. She’s on blinding form.

By: La Valkyrietta

La Valkyrietta — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:22:32 +0000

I’m sure you have heard of the cedilla. The letter you want, I will say, is neither an s nor a c but a c with a cedilla, ç:

Plançon.

Now the laugh might be on me when I click ‘submit comment’ and the cedilla disappears. If so, apologies.

By: armerjacquino

armerjacquino — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:13:58 +0000

Haha, MN.

And some shouty Italian tenor, don’t forget.

By: MontyNostry

MontyNostry — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:00:23 +0000

Of course, Shirl as Eboli and some German woman as Elisabetta.

By: MontyNostry

MontyNostry — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:37:53 +0000

That’s precisely the point, B_A_B. La Cieca would be ‘encore tout étourdie’ by the experience of time travel and would confuse her locations.

By: armerjacquino

armerjacquino — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:08:55 +0000

Vienna, 1970 for me. You can probably guess the rest.

By: Buster

Buster — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:35:14 +0000

Camille, you have to ask for a minaret tunic. Very expensive!

By: MontyNostry

MontyNostry — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:38:47 +0000

B_A_B, that’s brilliant!

By: Camille

Camille — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:22:14 +0000

What a frock.

Has it been auctioned off in La Cieca’s estate sale, or is it still available?

Why such a tragic tale, LA Ciechina?

By: Camille

Camille — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:05:34 +0000

Gualtier M. (Caro nome!) I thank you for helping jog my memory.

Oh Gaaaawd yes, I remember that dress! And if you’ve got one, let me know if you want to sell it as I just Loved It! Miss Vaness did work it, too!

By: CruzSF

CruzSF — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:34:23 +0000

LOL.

By: Ruxton

Ruxton — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:27:12 +0000

Sorry- of course I meant “carriage”.

By: Ruxton

Ruxton — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:26:14 +0000

Dear la Cieca- a tale of such woe (and such detail) leaves me clutching my pearls and gasping! If you’d seen those robbers coming you could have stuffed the jewels “somewhere safe” and – perhaps saved the horse and cart as well!

By: BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK

BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:22:59 +0000

Wait a minute. I’m missing something. It’s evidently an in-joke, but wasn’t the old Met at 39th and Broadway? Why is La Cieca going up to 64th?

By: Ruxton

Ruxton — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:10:11 +0000

Which one harry?

By: CruzSF

CruzSF — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:30:30 +0000

If you wore that, I’m afraid they’d take more than your gems and furs. (They’d pluck your feather, wouldn’t they?)

By: Nerva Nelli

Nerva Nelli — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:13:19 +0000

“*Musical*,ya know…”

By: Sanford

Sanford — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:54:45 +0000

Moffo at her best was as good or better than most… but at her worst, well, still better than a lot. Even her notorious 1969 Lucia has glimmers of greatness. She lost the middle of her voice and the ability to sustain support to the end of phrases, but never seemed to lose the top. And there are singers today (a certain Russian and a certain Straussian come to mind) who, even at their best, will never approach her artistry in bel canto.

Caballe in Lucrezia Borgia

Caballe in the L’Orange Norma

By: BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK

BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:21:30 +0000

“Why is this night different from all other nights?”

By: richard

richard — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:04:09 +0000

“By all accounts a failure, alas…”

Not Traviata or Liu though. Even later ca 1970 when she was no longer singing all that well, her Violetta was still something. Aside from all else she was just breathtakingly beautiful in the black and ivory dress she wore in Act 1. When the curtain went up, my heart stopped the first time I saw it. But by then Act 1 could be a bit rocky vocally.

I didn’t see Liu but I like her on the famous broadcast
with Corelli and Nilsson.

Evidently the Hoffmann was not so hot. She ended dropping out and only finished two performances. Irving Kolodin didn’t find this too convincing in his
long history of the Met.

By: BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK

BETSY_ANN_BOBOLINK — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:00:13 +0000

One needs to weep.