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		<title>By: Buster</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/02/08/mommy-track/comment-page-2/#comment-119004</link>
		<dc:creator>Buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Richard, for another wonderful Hillebrecht story. I always wondered about her - she sang Tosca in Amsterdam a couple of times, sharing the role with Gré Brouwenstijn and Montserrat Caballé, and a handful of other Italian opera&#039;s. And an Emilia Marty!
 
On disc, apart from the Elektra and Ariadne, there are a couple of Aida scenes with her in German that I have not heard. And snippets of her Leonora. Her Donna Elvira (again in German) is probably her best known record, because Fritz Wunderlich and Elisabeth Grümmer are on it too.

Apparently, she is a Kammerängerin (Kammersängerin Hildegard Hillebrecht-Stöhr), and alive and well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Richard, for another wonderful Hillebrecht story. I always wondered about her &#8211; she sang Tosca in Amsterdam a couple of times, sharing the role with Gré Brouwenstijn and Montserrat Caballé, and a handful of other Italian opera&#8217;s. And an Emilia Marty!</p>
<p>On disc, apart from the Elektra and Ariadne, there are a couple of Aida scenes with her in German that I have not heard. And snippets of her Leonora. Her Donna Elvira (again in German) is probably her best known record, because Fritz Wunderlich and Elisabeth Grümmer are on it too.</p>
<p>Apparently, she is a Kammerängerin (Kammersängerin Hildegard Hillebrecht-Stöhr), and alive and well.</p>
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		<title>By: mrmyster</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrmyster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hercule Poirot goes to the Opera!&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: mrmyster</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrmyster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You boys are really so naughty! I think Agatha Christie should
put you in one of her set-in-a-country-house novels. 
The denouement should be really entertaining!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You boys are really so naughty! I think Agatha Christie should<br />
put you in one of her set-in-a-country-house novels.<br />
The denouement should be really entertaining!</p>
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		<title>By: Ruxton</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Harry- I&#039;ve been waiting for you in the same way that one takes sennapods and then waits for the deluge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Harry- I&#8217;ve been waiting for you in the same way that one takes sennapods and then waits for the deluge.</p>
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		<title>By: MontyNostry</title>
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		<dc:creator>MontyNostry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s all semitones, but I see what you mean!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s all semitones, but I see what you mean!</p>
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		<title>By: armerjacquino</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Bei dir wird Ariadne sein&#039;, the repeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Bei dir wird Ariadne sein&#8217;, the repeat.</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
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		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MontyNostry: The short ascending scale at the very end of the aria. I may be mischaracterising at as &quot;chromatic&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MontyNostry: The short ascending scale at the very end of the aria. I may be mischaracterising at as &#8220;chromatic&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To think Ruxton YOU were waiting for my &#039;call&#039;! I better lie down. The shock of it all!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To think Ruxton YOU were waiting for my &#8216;call&#8217;! I better lie down. The shock of it all!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard Hillebrecht just once, as Leonore, in one of her handful of performances at the Met.

She had gotten a bit of press because she had fallen down the stairs of the Fidelio set and was hospitalized with a concussion. She had to miss her scheduled performance and for once the tables were turned and the star soprano filled in for her. (Rysanek)

I wasn&#039;t too impressed with Hillebrecht but she was quite sincere as Leonore and she seemd like a pretty jolly lady backstage afterwards.

Responding to me question, she gushed...&quot;Ja, ja... der concussion...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Hillebrecht just once, as Leonore, in one of her handful of performances at the Met.</p>
<p>She had gotten a bit of press because she had fallen down the stairs of the Fidelio set and was hospitalized with a concussion. She had to miss her scheduled performance and for once the tables were turned and the star soprano filled in for her. (Rysanek)</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t too impressed with Hillebrecht but she was quite sincere as Leonore and she seemd like a pretty jolly lady backstage afterwards.</p>
<p>Responding to me question, she gushed&#8230;&#8221;Ja, ja&#8230; der concussion&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MontyNostry</title>
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		<dc:creator>MontyNostry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which chromatic scale do you mean, kashania? There is a short chromatic descent off the top note. Is that it?

Anna T-S certainly had the range for the role at both ends, and she was a lovely singer in many ways, though I have always been slightly bothered by tendency to make a glottal attak on notes and slide into the pitches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which chromatic scale do you mean, kashania? There is a short chromatic descent off the top note. Is that it?</p>
<p>Anna T-S certainly had the range for the role at both ends, and she was a lovely singer in many ways, though I have always been slightly bothered by tendency to make a glottal attak on notes and slide into the pitches.</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
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		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MontyNostry: I agree that Norman didn&#039;t have a Strauss top but again, I don&#039;t think Ariadne requires one. That lack of a Strauss top is what made Norman unsuitable for the majority of Strauss roles, except for Ariadne, IMO. And I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a coincidence that the role sits so low. I think that the tessitura of the role and kind of voice it requires are part of Strauss&#039;s characterisation of the role.  Sure, a free top is always nice to hear but, Norman&#039;s &quot;laboured&quot; (for lack of a better a term) high notes actually suit my idea of how the role should sound. For example, I&#039;m much more interested in how a soprano sings the chromatic scale at the end of &quot;Es gibt ein Reich&quot; than how she sounds on the high notes. Voigt, for example, had glorious high notes. But when she sang that last scale, it was the dullest thing ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MontyNostry: I agree that Norman didn&#8217;t have a Strauss top but again, I don&#8217;t think Ariadne requires one. That lack of a Strauss top is what made Norman unsuitable for the majority of Strauss roles, except for Ariadne, IMO. And I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a coincidence that the role sits so low. I think that the tessitura of the role and kind of voice it requires are part of Strauss&#8217;s characterisation of the role.  Sure, a free top is always nice to hear but, Norman&#8217;s &#8220;laboured&#8221; (for lack of a better a term) high notes actually suit my idea of how the role should sound. For example, I&#8217;m much more interested in how a soprano sings the chromatic scale at the end of &#8220;Es gibt ein Reich&#8221; than how she sounds on the high notes. Voigt, for example, had glorious high notes. But when she sang that last scale, it was the dullest thing ever.</p>
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		<title>By: MontyNostry</title>
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		<dc:creator>MontyNostry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kashania -- I saw Norman live a couple of times as Ariadne (in London). At the time I was an unconditional fan -- certainly not the case any more. It was very impressive, though, and remains a highly positive experience in my memory. That being said, she never had a Strauss top, and I think you need to know it&#039;s at a soprano&#039;s disposal in Ariadne. Norman achieved &quot;sleight of voice&quot; in the climactic phrases of &#039;Es gibt ein Reich&#039;. The top notes were there, and her panache made us think they were big and beautiful, but -- when you listen again -- they were short and colourless compared to the rest of the voice. Straussian overdrive is really required. She pulled off a similar trick with Tove&#039;s top C (I think it&#039;s a top C) in the last of her Gurrelieder numbers. She is quite magnificent in the Ozawa recording (and she was live too), but you have to make allowances for that final note.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kashania &#8212; I saw Norman live a couple of times as Ariadne (in London). At the time I was an unconditional fan &#8212; certainly not the case any more. It was very impressive, though, and remains a highly positive experience in my memory. That being said, she never had a Strauss top, and I think you need to know it&#8217;s at a soprano&#8217;s disposal in Ariadne. Norman achieved &#8220;sleight of voice&#8221; in the climactic phrases of &#8216;Es gibt ein Reich&#8217;. The top notes were there, and her panache made us think they were big and beautiful, but &#8212; when you listen again &#8212; they were short and colourless compared to the rest of the voice. Straussian overdrive is really required. She pulled off a similar trick with Tove&#8217;s top C (I think it&#8217;s a top C) in the last of her Gurrelieder numbers. She is quite magnificent in the Ozawa recording (and she was live too), but you have to make allowances for that final note.</p>
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		<title>By: MontyNostry</title>
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		<dc:creator>MontyNostry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nerva -- 15.2.3.7 -- was it &quot;Abstand!&quot; ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nerva &#8212; 15.2.3.7 &#8212; was it &#8220;Abstand!&#8221; ???</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
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		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, my ears don&#039;t require a radiant top for Ariadne. The role always sounded &quot;earth-bound&quot; to me, with the low tessitura re-enforcing the fact that she&#039;s trapped on the island. On the other hand, Bacchus&#039;s high-lying lines suggest that he will free Ariadne from her situation. That &quot;earth-bound&quot; quality is one reason why I think the role was such a good fit for Norman (aside from the inherent grandeur of the role).

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H9LTixHHug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, my ears don&#8217;t require a radiant top for Ariadne. The role always sounded &#8220;earth-bound&#8221; to me, with the low tessitura re-enforcing the fact that she&#8217;s trapped on the island. On the other hand, Bacchus&#8217;s high-lying lines suggest that he will free Ariadne from her situation. That &#8220;earth-bound&#8221; quality is one reason why I think the role was such a good fit for Norman (aside from the inherent grandeur of the role).</p>
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		<title>By: Buster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Batty - here she is in my favorite part of the opera:

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_kQ--Ks6dI&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=2FC7D893BF298B78&amp;playnext=1&amp;playnext_from=PL&amp;index=4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Batty -- here she is in my favorite part of the opera:</p>
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		<title>By: pernille</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for posting this.
I have heard her live on  three occasions, and each time she gave a moving performance. Hope you get to hear her in person one day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for posting this.<br />
I have heard her live on  three occasions, and each time she gave a moving performance. Hope you get to hear her in person one day!</p>
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		<title>By: Batty Masetto</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joining in on Hillebrecht - I heard her as Sieglinde in the 1969 Munich Ring (with Nilsson, Adam, and the aging Windgassen as Siegmund). Also in other roles during that season I&#039;m quite sure, but all I remember about them is that I was underwhelmed and didn&#039;t tend to look forward to it when she was in the cast. Interesting that King regarded her so highly. As I recall the voice was large and on pitch but rather dry and as lacking in glamor live as it is on disc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joining in on Hillebrecht &#8211; I heard her as Sieglinde in the 1969 Munich Ring (with Nilsson, Adam, and the aging Windgassen as Siegmund). Also in other roles during that season I&#8217;m quite sure, but all I remember about them is that I was underwhelmed and didn&#8217;t tend to look forward to it when she was in the cast. Interesting that King regarded her so highly. As I recall the voice was large and on pitch but rather dry and as lacking in glamor live as it is on disc.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruxton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trust you Harry you old bag- typical of you to give me two for one- I was expecting it- even waiting for it from you. I wasn&#039;t making a judgement- I was only giving an annalysis anyhow hehehe. Dame Edna? ...dream on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trust you Harry you old bag- typical of you to give me two for one- I was expecting it- even waiting for it from you. I wasn&#8217;t making a judgement- I was only giving an annalysis anyhow hehehe. Dame Edna? &#8230;dream on.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding on to BETTY_ANN BOBOLINK&#039;s comments: I once heard an interview &#039;on air&#039; from a public community radio station where a totally stupid elderly announcer had an interview with some young girl that had appeared in some local amateur theatrical show.

At one stance, he allowed the interview to be - where he was - in fact - also being interviewed.  Then it careened downwards and free-wheeled : where they were discussing the gir;s family background ....when he made a throwaway suggestion about &quot; I bet there is a &#039;#*gger&#039; (GULP!!) in the wood pile somewhere....&quot; inferring some &#039;hazy  past family lineage  . Totally oblivious to the absolutely  &#039;racist outrage&#039; that he had just committed, in the choice of words he had used. Someone had the tape of the interview and upon listening to it repeatedly, it was plain by the tone of his voice - he was creaming in  his pants over the girl. &#039;Something went hard and the blood flow to the brain went therefore deficient&#039;. Yet incredibly he was allowed to continue broadcasting, for a while after that, till complaints piled up.

The point is : A person interviewing should never start getting &#039;over familiar&#039; in any way with the interviewed person. Stick to the matter of what the interview was intended for.. Otherwise all sorts of consequences can quickly form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding on to BETTY_ANN BOBOLINK&#8217;s comments: I once heard an interview &#8216;on air&#8217; from a public community radio station where a totally stupid elderly announcer had an interview with some young girl that had appeared in some local amateur theatrical show.</p>
<p>At one stance, he allowed the interview to be &#8211; where he was &#8211; in fact &#8211; also being interviewed.  Then it careened downwards and free-wheeled : where they were discussing the gir;s family background &#8230;.when he made a throwaway suggestion about &#8221; I bet there is a &#8216;#*gger&#8217; (GULP!!) in the wood pile somewhere&#8230;.&#8221; inferring some &#8216;hazy  past family lineage  . Totally oblivious to the absolutely  &#8216;racist outrage&#8217; that he had just committed, in the choice of words he had used. Someone had the tape of the interview and upon listening to it repeatedly, it was plain by the tone of his voice &#8211; he was creaming in  his pants over the girl. &#8216;Something went hard and the blood flow to the brain went therefore deficient&#8217;. Yet incredibly he was allowed to continue broadcasting, for a while after that, till complaints piled up.</p>
<p>The point is : A person interviewing should never start getting &#8216;over familiar&#8217; in any way with the interviewed person. Stick to the matter of what the interview was intended for.. Otherwise all sorts of consequences can quickly form.</p>
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		<title>By: javier</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t heard Netrebko live either. Her voice is really thick and if she doesn&#039;t attend to the phrasing all I hear is a big wall of chunky sound. But in some videos I have seen, for instance, I Capuleti with Di Donato, the voice is gorgeous and she&#039;s very attentive to the words. She also has an amazing trill but since her voice is so thick (not the best word to describe it) I think it&#039;s hard for her to produce it. Unlike Sutherland who had a huge voice, but the trill always came easily.
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXRK0PICpX8
Anyway, she has a gorgeous middle voice and occasionally when the top is reliable it unfolds brilliantly. 

I think she&#039;s well suited to bel canto, despite what most say. I&#039;ve said it before, but Bolena will be a hit for her if she can sing the way she does in the clip above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard Netrebko live either. Her voice is really thick and if she doesn&#8217;t attend to the phrasing all I hear is a big wall of chunky sound. But in some videos I have seen, for instance, I Capuleti with Di Donato, the voice is gorgeous and she&#8217;s very attentive to the words. She also has an amazing trill but since her voice is so thick (not the best word to describe it) I think it&#8217;s hard for her to produce it. Unlike Sutherland who had a huge voice, but the trill always came easily.<br />
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Anyway, she has a gorgeous middle voice and occasionally when the top is reliable it unfolds brilliantly. </p>
<p>I think she&#8217;s well suited to bel canto, despite what most say. I&#8217;ve said it before, but Bolena will be a hit for her if she can sing the way she does in the clip above.</p>
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		<title>By: Buster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bill - very interesting! 

Not that many people are wild about Ricarda Merbeth, apparently, but I heard a great Elisabeth out of her - a last minute replacement for Martina Serafin. A bit maternal, but I did not mind that at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bill &#8211; very interesting! </p>
<p>Not that many people are wild about Ricarda Merbeth, apparently, but I heard a great Elisabeth out of her &#8211; a last minute replacement for Martina Serafin. A bit maternal, but I did not mind that at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amerjaquino - I have seen Schwanewilms as Arabella (last season in Vienna) and thought she was wonderful but I have never seen nor heard her Ariadne which should be, I am sure, equally enthralling. I have seen Pieczonka in numerous roles since her earlier days at the Volksoper but never as Ariadne.  I have never heard a note of Nylund but look forward to an introduction in the future.  And alas, there are many fine singers I have never seen live, and some of them like Cerquetti or Carteri with remorse. I never saw Fischer-Dieskau in an opera performance though frequently in lieder recitals or concerts.  I never saw Gre Brouwenstijn who was so beloved in England in certain roles.    

I might mention also that at the Met some seasons ago, Christine Brewer was quite effective as Ariadne (better than Voigt I thought).  I have not heard Brewer since in anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amerjaquino &#8211; I have seen Schwanewilms as Arabella (last season in Vienna) and thought she was wonderful but I have never seen nor heard her Ariadne which should be, I am sure, equally enthralling. I have seen Pieczonka in numerous roles since her earlier days at the Volksoper but never as Ariadne.  I have never heard a note of Nylund but look forward to an introduction in the future.  And alas, there are many fine singers I have never seen live, and some of them like Cerquetti or Carteri with remorse. I never saw Fischer-Dieskau in an opera performance though frequently in lieder recitals or concerts.  I never saw Gre Brouwenstijn who was so beloved in England in certain roles.    </p>
<p>I might mention also that at the Met some seasons ago, Christine Brewer was quite effective as Ariadne (better than Voigt I thought).  I have not heard Brewer since in anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just Ruxton morphing Edna Everage: &#039;about everybody should appear to so nice, saying something nice about being nice to other people, who should be nice to nice peope like them&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just Ruxton morphing Edna Everage: &#8216;about everybody should appear to so nice, saying something nice about being nice to other people, who should be nice to nice peope like them&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2010/02/08/mommy-track/comment-page-3/#comment-118702</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not whether a comment is  deemed nasty, positive, or whatever ...the important judgmental point: &#039;is it accurate or fair in the circumstances?&#039; In some cases, this is ably and clearly demonstated with video clip, HD transmissions,reference to recordings, or from a formed consensus from those that attended a live performance.

Yet you want &#039;for people to Be fair&#039; : virtually pleading against such available democratic debate process, above-mentioned.  A person&#039;s reaction upon reading someone&#039;s else&#039;s contribution  here / and then counter comments in many cases, is the reason, parterre exists. Out of which, each reader may already have their unshakeable opinion or form their own final conclusions. 

To start implying by hints/ or then further interpret the motivations WHY someone made a particular comment is a added distortion of any construction, you first made. It becomes pure conjecture.  In the middle of the slipstream of bitchy comments made: always lies the real truth somewhere!
It is up to each one of us to find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not whether a comment is  deemed nasty, positive, or whatever &#8230;the important judgmental point: &#8216;is it accurate or fair in the circumstances?&#8217; In some cases, this is ably and clearly demonstated with video clip, HD transmissions,reference to recordings, or from a formed consensus from those that attended a live performance.</p>
<p>Yet you want &#8216;for people to Be fair&#8217; : virtually pleading against such available democratic debate process, above-mentioned.  A person&#8217;s reaction upon reading someone&#8217;s else&#8217;s contribution  here / and then counter comments in many cases, is the reason, parterre exists. Out of which, each reader may already have their unshakeable opinion or form their own final conclusions. </p>
<p>To start implying by hints/ or then further interpret the motivations WHY someone made a particular comment is a added distortion of any construction, you first made. It becomes pure conjecture.  In the middle of the slipstream of bitchy comments made: always lies the real truth somewhere!<br />
It is up to each one of us to find it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buster - I heard Hildegard Hillebrecht only once as Ariadne on December 3rd of 1965 in Vienna (she sang only 2 Ariadnes in Vienna) and she was solid - not a radiant voice bur rather even throughout the range.
I agree that her recording of Ariadne on DGG left quite a bit to be desired and one German kritik wrote that it was a bitter pill to swallow for DGG that Janowitx had recorded the role about the same time under Kempe rather than appearing in the Boehm DGG recording.  At that time the late autum of 1965  in Vienna Rysanek also was singing Ariadne (both she and Hillebrecht  with the radiant Sena Jurinac as Komponist) and Rysanek was the far more exciting in the role.  I heard Hillebrecht also as Chrysothemis in Salzburg in 1965 under Karajan (with Varnay and Moedl) but again comparisons with Rysanek in Vienna at the Wieland Wagner premiere in December of that year were not favorable for Hillebrecht and left her efforts somewhat in the dust compared with those of Rysanek&#039;s.  I think Hillebrecht replaced Schwarzkopf as the Marschallin (with Seefried as Oktavian and Grist &amp; Edelmann) with the San Francisco Opera production of Rosenkavalier in one performance when they guested in Los Angeles in the autumn of 1964.   Most of Hillebrecht&#039;s career, however, seems to have taken place in Germany (Munich etc.)  She always seemed to be a second string soprano at the time - She never sang again at the Wiener Staatsoper after that Ariadne having essayed only 10 performances in 5 roles in Vienna from 1960-65 and assumedly some of them as replacements for more luminous sopranos who were not available on those dates Hillebrecht appeared. I would put Hillebrecht in the same boat with Ingrid Haubold, Sabine Haas, or Ricarda Merbeth - a strong enough German Spinto without the allure of the stars of the day, but serviceable in the roles they sang (or in the case of Merbeth - still singing) Janice Martin may fit that category as well along with Vinzing and Vejzovic, Kuchta and Lippert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buster &#8211; I heard Hildegard Hillebrecht only once as Ariadne on December 3rd of 1965 in Vienna (she sang only 2 Ariadnes in Vienna) and she was solid &#8211; not a radiant voice bur rather even throughout the range.<br />
I agree that her recording of Ariadne on DGG left quite a bit to be desired and one German kritik wrote that it was a bitter pill to swallow for DGG that Janowitx had recorded the role about the same time under Kempe rather than appearing in the Boehm DGG recording.  At that time the late autum of 1965  in Vienna Rysanek also was singing Ariadne (both she and Hillebrecht  with the radiant Sena Jurinac as Komponist) and Rysanek was the far more exciting in the role.  I heard Hillebrecht also as Chrysothemis in Salzburg in 1965 under Karajan (with Varnay and Moedl) but again comparisons with Rysanek in Vienna at the Wieland Wagner premiere in December of that year were not favorable for Hillebrecht and left her efforts somewhat in the dust compared with those of Rysanek&#8217;s.  I think Hillebrecht replaced Schwarzkopf as the Marschallin (with Seefried as Oktavian and Grist &amp; Edelmann) with the San Francisco Opera production of Rosenkavalier in one performance when they guested in Los Angeles in the autumn of 1964.   Most of Hillebrecht&#8217;s career, however, seems to have taken place in Germany (Munich etc.)  She always seemed to be a second string soprano at the time &#8211; She never sang again at the Wiener Staatsoper after that Ariadne having essayed only 10 performances in 5 roles in Vienna from 1960-65 and assumedly some of them as replacements for more luminous sopranos who were not available on those dates Hillebrecht appeared. I would put Hillebrecht in the same boat with Ingrid Haubold, Sabine Haas, or Ricarda Merbeth &#8211; a strong enough German Spinto without the allure of the stars of the day, but serviceable in the roles they sang (or in the case of Merbeth &#8211; still singing) Janice Martin may fit that category as well along with Vinzing and Vejzovic, Kuchta and Lippert.</p>
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		<title>By: Nerva Nelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nerva Nelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Schwarzkopf, who never sang the role on stage, was resplendent on the 1954 von Karajan recording...&quot;


Here&#039;s a riddle for all of you who miss the matchless TURANDOTs the Met was broadcasting:

What was Frau Doktor Schwarzkopf-Legge&#039;s absolute favorite SINGLE WORD in the ARIADNE libretto?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Schwarzkopf, who never sang the role on stage, was resplendent on the 1954 von Karajan recording&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a riddle for all of you who miss the matchless TURANDOTs the Met was broadcasting:</p>
<p>What was Frau Doktor Schwarzkopf-Legge&#8217;s absolute favorite SINGLE WORD in the ARIADNE libretto?</p>
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		<title>By: armerjacquino</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, I too saw Janowitz, who was sharing Ariadne with Tomowa-Sintow in that same 1987 production mentioned above. I was only 14 but I can safely date my Janowitz obsession from that night.

The only other Ariadne I&#039;ve seen live was Schwanewilms (finally, I&#039;ve seen a singer you haven&#039;t...) at Covent Garden in, I think, 2004. It was the first revival of the little black dress production and Schwanewilms&#039; wonderful performance was swamped by all the press hooha about Voigt. She was absolutely radiant, however, despite some sniffy &#039;well, she&#039;s no Debbie&#039; reviews in the London press. Damrau was the Zerbinetta and was fine but not spectacular. Really, for me it was Susan Graham&#039;s evening- I love her in Strauss.

I have Gessendorf&#039;s Ariadne on DVD, with Schmidt, Gruberova and Frey. She&#039;s wonderful, and I&#039;ve always found her strangely underrated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I too saw Janowitz, who was sharing Ariadne with Tomowa-Sintow in that same 1987 production mentioned above. I was only 14 but I can safely date my Janowitz obsession from that night.</p>
<p>The only other Ariadne I&#8217;ve seen live was Schwanewilms (finally, I&#8217;ve seen a singer you haven&#8217;t&#8230;) at Covent Garden in, I think, 2004. It was the first revival of the little black dress production and Schwanewilms&#8217; wonderful performance was swamped by all the press hooha about Voigt. She was absolutely radiant, however, despite some sniffy &#8216;well, she&#8217;s no Debbie&#8217; reviews in the London press. Damrau was the Zerbinetta and was fine but not spectacular. Really, for me it was Susan Graham&#8217;s evening- I love her in Strauss.</p>
<p>I have Gessendorf&#8217;s Ariadne on DVD, with Schmidt, Gruberova and Frey. She&#8217;s wonderful, and I&#8217;ve always found her strangely underrated.</p>
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		<title>By: Buster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill - did you ever hear Hildegard Hillebrecht&#039;s Ariadne live? I once asked James King about her - she is his Chrysothemis on the Karajan Elektra, as you know, and he started to beam, and rave about how absolutely wonderful she was on stage, and how odd it was that she disappeared so quickly. She sort of spoils the Böhm Ariadne for me, which I love for the young Tatiana Troyanos, but she is better in the Ariadne film. Just curious what you think. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8211; did you ever hear Hildegard Hillebrecht&#8217;s Ariadne live? I once asked James King about her &#8211; she is his Chrysothemis on the Karajan Elektra, as you know, and he started to beam, and rave about how absolutely wonderful she was on stage, and how odd it was that she disappeared so quickly. She sort of spoils the Böhm Ariadne for me, which I love for the young Tatiana Troyanos, but she is better in the Ariadne film. Just curious what you think. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regina - Tomowa-Sintow was, in my opinion, a fine Ariadne - just below the top tier I mentioned (Rysanek, della Casa, Janowitz, Benackova) as Tomowa-Sintow&#039;s middle voice did not match her luminous top.
Of course those I mentioned also had slight defects in performance - Rysanek was not as controlled in the middle of her voice at times, della Casa could sound a bit scratchy at the bottom of her range (but what effervesant top notes), Janowitz, seen often and also at her farewell performance on stage at the Staatsoper in 1990) could harden a bit at the top.  Most ideal, Benackova (seen several times with Gruberova) with gorgeous singing throughout - the audience was so hushed and held its collective breath just to hear every nuance - the notes just floated out magically.  

Other Ariadnes I liked Gessendorf,  Claire Watson to be sure.   Leontyne Price sang with too husky a voice for my pleasure, Caballe was fine, Jessye Norman did not have a radiant top though her lowest notes were splendid, Voigt was too unattractive in the middle register.   

We know Reining from the 1944 Vienna production and she was in refulgent voice.   We do not know what Jeritza sounded like, nor Lehmann after she graduated from the Komponist.  Cebotari had success with the role, Anna Konetzni, Zadek,  and many others.

Schwarzkopf, who never sang the role on stage, was resplendent on the 1954 von Karajan recording - certainly one of Schwarzkopf&#039;s absolutely best recordings and I think the best recording overall of he opera - one of the greatest performances of any opera ever essayed on disc.

Some I never heard,  Crespin in Aix or Chicago (and with a long arching line in the pirated 1964 Chicago production under Jochum), Stich-Randall (Aix and Vienna), Studer and others  and I have yet to hear Schwanewilms, Pieczonka, Nylund.   Margaret Price, if she ever sang the role on stage, would have been ideal as Ariadne and in my opinion should have gone in that direction rather than that of Norma and Cilea.

These days is it is not easy to hear a live Ariadne wherein all 3 of the magnificent soprano roles are equally top notch in radiant execution.  (The 1954 Salzburg live performance under Boehm now on DGG with della Casa, Gueden, Seefried would certainly come up to standard in all 3 roles).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regina &#8211; Tomowa-Sintow was, in my opinion, a fine Ariadne &#8211; just below the top tier I mentioned (Rysanek, della Casa, Janowitz, Benackova) as Tomowa-Sintow&#8217;s middle voice did not match her luminous top.<br />
Of course those I mentioned also had slight defects in performance &#8211; Rysanek was not as controlled in the middle of her voice at times, della Casa could sound a bit scratchy at the bottom of her range (but what effervesant top notes), Janowitz, seen often and also at her farewell performance on stage at the Staatsoper in 1990) could harden a bit at the top.  Most ideal, Benackova (seen several times with Gruberova) with gorgeous singing throughout &#8211; the audience was so hushed and held its collective breath just to hear every nuance &#8211; the notes just floated out magically.  </p>
<p>Other Ariadnes I liked Gessendorf,  Claire Watson to be sure.   Leontyne Price sang with too husky a voice for my pleasure, Caballe was fine, Jessye Norman did not have a radiant top though her lowest notes were splendid, Voigt was too unattractive in the middle register.   </p>
<p>We know Reining from the 1944 Vienna production and she was in refulgent voice.   We do not know what Jeritza sounded like, nor Lehmann after she graduated from the Komponist.  Cebotari had success with the role, Anna Konetzni, Zadek,  and many others.</p>
<p>Schwarzkopf, who never sang the role on stage, was resplendent on the 1954 von Karajan recording &#8211; certainly one of Schwarzkopf&#8217;s absolutely best recordings and I think the best recording overall of he opera &#8211; one of the greatest performances of any opera ever essayed on disc.</p>
<p>Some I never heard,  Crespin in Aix or Chicago (and with a long arching line in the pirated 1964 Chicago production under Jochum), Stich-Randall (Aix and Vienna), Studer and others  and I have yet to hear Schwanewilms, Pieczonka, Nylund.   Margaret Price, if she ever sang the role on stage, would have been ideal as Ariadne and in my opinion should have gone in that direction rather than that of Norma and Cilea.</p>
<p>These days is it is not easy to hear a live Ariadne wherein all 3 of the magnificent soprano roles are equally top notch in radiant execution.  (The 1954 Salzburg live performance under Boehm now on DGG with della Casa, Gueden, Seefried would certainly come up to standard in all 3 roles).</p>
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		<title>By: armerjacquino</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are negative comments and negative comments, of course. To say &#039;such and such a singer had his or her moments, but maybe this role in this house at this time wasn&#039;t a great idea&#039; is one thing. Sadly, there are some posters who seem only to be happy with schadenfreude, whether retrospective  (&#039;Of course I ADORE Steber, but sadly she was a drunk who couldn&#039;t sing&#039;) or current (&#039;That was the worst singing I&#039;ve ever heard since the last time somebody did the worst singing I&#039;ve ever heard&#039;). Both varieties are depressing and revelatory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are negative comments and negative comments, of course. To say &#8216;such and such a singer had his or her moments, but maybe this role in this house at this time wasn&#8217;t a great idea&#8217; is one thing. Sadly, there are some posters who seem only to be happy with schadenfreude, whether retrospective  (&#8216;Of course I ADORE Steber, but sadly she was a drunk who couldn&#8217;t sing&#8217;) or current (&#8216;That was the worst singing I&#8217;ve ever heard since the last time somebody did the worst singing I&#8217;ve ever heard&#8217;). Both varieties are depressing and revelatory.</p>
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