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theunmadebedWelcome, cher public, to discussion for this afternoon’s Met broadcast of Der Rosenkavalier. The performance begins at 1:00 PM.

For those of you who have the budding energy and vigor to engage in the quicksilver thrust and parry of real-time chat, your doyenne suggests you visit La Casa della Cieca.

  • paddypig

    Stesber also sang all three roles in Rosenkavalier.I don’t know if she did octavian at the MET, but Met puclicity always claimed she did all three roles

    • mrmyster

      Paddy, I guess you mean Steber? NO! She did not sing Octavian — her last Sophie was in May 1948; her first Marschallin was opening night, 1949. Her first Sophie had been 7 Dec 1940, house debut. Steber could make all sorts of wild claims — she changed her 1940 debut to Dec 7, 1941 in one conversation I heard, just to associate herself with that historic date, and if she “always” claimed to have “sung all three,” I never heard it. I can tell you for certain she never sang Rofrano; neither her appearance nor her lyric soprano would have accommodated that! :)
      Sophie was one of her very great roles -- the rich lyric voice was quite a luxury in the part and it somewhat fit her personality; the Marschallin was less successful, though in the later 1950s she was used a lot as a sort of utility singer in the role. Of course she was quite commanding in the final scene.

  • javier

    This is Strauss…you can be a little flat over that blaring orchestra. It’s okay. I listened to Studer in the trio and she sounds fine.

    • richard

      Are you for real??????????????? Flat is flat and is NEVER ok. Do you stay awake making this shit up?

  • faninal

    @ well, javier hasn’t been paying attention. To wit (and it is a moment of wit), our own Lindoro had the gall to use words like “towering” and Racette in the same sentence:

    Oh, triumphs!

    • javier

      Oh, well, I’m part of the crowd that didn’t care very much for Racette singnig all 3 roles in Il Trittico at the Met this past fall. If Lindoro called her a “towering” success it was only because everyone uses hyperbole when they write reviews. She was actually quite flat as Angelica…some people claimed it was part of her characterization…I don’t know.

      • CruzSF

        I’m a fan of Racette’s, based on her work here in SF. but even I must admit that her Met appearances (heard on Sirius) found her with an overtaxed voice.

    • armerjacquino

      Thanks for the link to Lindoro’s blog. I am now overdosing on Mary Curtis-Verna, a wonderful singer I’d heard of but never heard.

    • And if you had continued reading (or if your reading comprehention was anything close to normal) you would also have read this Criticism:

      My only quibble is the fact that she allowed herself to get caught up during the Senza mamma. This make for thrilling outward expression (albeit a less successful high A at the end) but it somewhat altered the arch of the opera. With such an outward Senza Mamma, there was nowhere to go in the final scene. The opera had reached its climax with the aria and building on top of that was hard, plus the hysteria seemed misplaced.

      When have we heard you criticise your own favorite based on reality and not on imagination?

      • javier

        Well, I don’t have to criticize Renaay because everyone else does it for me. Also, you’re right…I can’t read. I’m hopeless.

        • Javi, are you sure that comment was directed to you or do you have a chip on your shoulder?

        • javier

          It was either me or faninal, but I don’t care cuz it completely applies to me too. lol

        • So am I hearing that you might have a chip on your shoulder and could be reacting to that instead?

        • Oh, also, have you read the Rosenkavalier review in my blog?

          Don’t come to me playing the victim. If we criticize renee is because there are things to Criticise. We also critizice Callas, Scotto, Tebaldi, Caballe and many more singers here, and all with good reason. Renee is not the only one who gets critizice here.

        • javier

  • mrmyster

    So, Javier, what’s that about — The Trio From Pringles?
    (except it is a quartette!)
    Have you got that French auto commercial showing the hubby with his boyfriend and the wife with her boyfriend — too much plot for me to go into here, but if you’ve seen it you know what I mean!

  • faninal


    Margarethe Siems sings the Marschallin Monologue

    Minnie Nast and Eva von der Osten “Ist ein Traum”

    Eva von der Osten and Minnie Nast “Mir ist die Ehre”

    Margarethe Siems sings the Marschallin Final Trio

    • Bill

      These clips are priceless -- the original cast of Rosenkavalier from Dresdan and all 3 sopranos (and all ARE sopranos) have excellent diction -- they are really saying something as they sing -- good pitch and blend well with each other. One would have loved to have acually seen them onstage together. Thanks Faninal -- now if you could find a 1960s Rosenkavalier with Schwarzkopf as Marschallin, Seefried as Octavian and one of the Sophies with whom they sang -- Streich, Gueden, Rothenberger, Grist (and conductors, Boehm, Karajan, Krips, Leitner, Leopold Ludwig among others) !!!

  • faninal

    Ochs-Marschallin Act I exchanges. Eric Halfvarson and Cheryl Studer, towering with a capital T: