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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/31/votre-chat-je-peux-vous-le-rendre/comment-page-4/#comment-113321</link>
		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Count Krunoslav for your reply.  I am tardy in reply only because the length of this thread makes it rather unwieldy to find comments.

I see my mistake now, that is, I read the date from the bottom instead of properly from the top.  It did not make sense to me that that Olvis would still be singing in 1973, in any case.

Yes, Mr. Olvis was, according to family legend, an ardent pursuer of women and broke poor cousin Norma&#039;s heart (cousin Norma being his accompanist as well as wife).  Much later on when I was old enough to know of such things, it was added that he chased or was chased by men as well, so TT bait he was, indeed.  

Of his singing I have a very young girlish recollection of him being rather of the McCracken scuola di bel canto -- I&#039;m sure you know what that means.  I did see him once, as a very young opera neophyte, sing Don Jose to the scintillating Carmen of Margaret Roggero.  Even then,  I knew, It Was Not Good.

Most famously, he may be seen and heard in the wonderful (to me) &#039;40&#039;s film &quot;Deep in my Heart&quot; -- saga of composer Romberg which is a marvelous potpourri, including Helen Traubel dancing a two-step with Jose Ferrer, something worth the price alone -- in which he sings, in the feyest manner possible, the serenade from The Student Prince.  If I recall correctly, he was subbing for Mario Lanza.  I believe he went on to Bayreuth, that is, according to some YouTube evidence I&#039;ve found.  Years later, I was told by my friend he had been seen around Hollywood.  I believe he is to be found on a Leonie Fliegende Hollander as the Steuermann, as well.

Thanks for taking the time to help me sort it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Count Krunoslav for your reply.  I am tardy in reply only because the length of this thread makes it rather unwieldy to find comments.</p>
<p>I see my mistake now, that is, I read the date from the bottom instead of properly from the top.  It did not make sense to me that that Olvis would still be singing in 1973, in any case.</p>
<p>Yes, Mr. Olvis was, according to family legend, an ardent pursuer of women and broke poor cousin Norma&#8217;s heart (cousin Norma being his accompanist as well as wife).  Much later on when I was old enough to know of such things, it was added that he chased or was chased by men as well, so TT bait he was, indeed.  </p>
<p>Of his singing I have a very young girlish recollection of him being rather of the McCracken scuola di bel canto &#8212; I&#8217;m sure you know what that means.  I did see him once, as a very young opera neophyte, sing Don Jose to the scintillating Carmen of Margaret Roggero.  Even then,  I knew, It Was Not Good.</p>
<p>Most famously, he may be seen and heard in the wonderful (to me) &#8217;40&#8242;s film &#8220;Deep in my Heart&#8221; &#8212; saga of composer Romberg which is a marvelous potpourri, including Helen Traubel dancing a two-step with Jose Ferrer, something worth the price alone &#8212; in which he sings, in the feyest manner possible, the serenade from The Student Prince.  If I recall correctly, he was subbing for Mario Lanza.  I believe he went on to Bayreuth, that is, according to some YouTube evidence I&#8217;ve found.  Years later, I was told by my friend he had been seen around Hollywood.  I believe he is to be found on a Leonie Fliegende Hollander as the Steuermann, as well.</p>
<p>Thanks for taking the time to help me sort it out.</p>
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		<title>By: ilpenedelmiocor</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilpenedelmiocor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow.
awesome.
and hot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow.<br />
awesome.<br />
and hot.</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Mme. CF: 
are you perhaps referring to the phrase in Elena&#039;s &quot;Notte, cupa, atroce&quot; in which she sings &quot;In velutabro di sangue&quot; -- where she attacks on a high A and descends two octaves to an A in voce di petto?  That is a famous passage -- one she was noted for, anyway, and the one my oldtime friend told me of, many many many years later.  

A very great singer that no one much remembers today.  We have to be thankful for Naxos!  In particular, I like the I Lombardi selections; very difficult and not for the inexpert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Mme. CF:<br />
are you perhaps referring to the phrase in Elena&#8217;s &#8220;Notte, cupa, atroce&#8221; in which she sings &#8220;In velutabro di sangue&#8221; &#8212; where she attacks on a high A and descends two octaves to an A in voce di petto?  That is a famous passage &#8212; one she was noted for, anyway, and the one my oldtime friend told me of, many many many years later.  </p>
<p>A very great singer that no one much remembers today.  We have to be thankful for Naxos!  In particular, I like the I Lombardi selections; very difficult and not for the inexpert.</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danke, Bill, for this information, I really appreciated hearing about this great singer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danke, Bill, for this information, I really appreciated hearing about this great singer.</p>
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		<title>By: Often admonished</title>
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		<dc:creator>Often admonished</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Decca&#039;s Carmen started out as a Berganza project but she withdrew - Verrett was approached but wanted a huge (Bumbry-size) fee - they&#039;re lucky to have got Troyanos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Decca&#8217;s Carmen started out as a Berganza project but she withdrew &#8211; Verrett was approached but wanted a huge (Bumbry-size) fee &#8211; they&#8217;re lucky to have got Troyanos!</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for so eloquently articulating what I&#039;ve always felt about Sills.  She is a difficult artist for me to engage with as a listener; although I understand her accomplishments in certain repertoire (Baby Doe) it doesn&#039;t go much further than that for me.

I also heartily agree with this statement: &quot;Sills’ fake cozy manner, mock intellectuality and phony bonhomie were appalling;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for so eloquently articulating what I&#8217;ve always felt about Sills.  She is a difficult artist for me to engage with as a listener; although I understand her accomplishments in certain repertoire (Baby Doe) it doesn&#8217;t go much further than that for me.</p>
<p>I also heartily agree with this statement: &#8220;Sills’ fake cozy manner, mock intellectuality and phony bonhomie were appalling;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: CerquettiFarrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>CerquettiFarrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 00:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monty try listening to LHL&#039;s favourite encore piece, Deep River, there&#039;s a very similar approach, not just because of the genre. Also Farrell&#039;s Messiah solos are very reminiscent of Hunt.
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGPG7Aw6HPg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monty try listening to LHL&#8217;s favourite encore piece, Deep River, there&#8217;s a very similar approach, not just because of the genre. Also Farrell&#8217;s Messiah solos are very reminiscent of Hunt.<br />
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		<title>By: chinchilla FUR.Elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>chinchilla FUR.Elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 00:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liebe Jack Jikes, I left a little farewell surprise in the Act Five thread. Enjoy the swiftIAN and the nabokovIAN even if I am rossian and not armenian, but sovok all the same. You and doberdawg the velikyi will always be in meine ganzen herz. dresden for ever, ewige, ewige.
leb wohl
chinchi the rossian amrikan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liebe Jack Jikes, I left a little farewell surprise in the Act Five thread. Enjoy the swiftIAN and the nabokovIAN even if I am rossian and not armenian, but sovok all the same. You and doberdawg the velikyi will always be in meine ganzen herz. dresden for ever, ewige, ewige.<br />
leb wohl<br />
chinchi the rossian amrikan</p>
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		<title>By: MontyNostry</title>
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		<dc:creator>MontyNostry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 00:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, I&#039;d never think of Hunt Lieberson and Farrell in the same mental breath, as it were. From what I&#039;ve heard of Farrell, I love the breadth and linearity of her voice. LHL is somehow a more &#039;curvy&#039; singer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, I&#8217;d never think of Hunt Lieberson and Farrell in the same mental breath, as it were. From what I&#8217;ve heard of Farrell, I love the breadth and linearity of her voice. LHL is somehow a more &#8216;curvy&#8217; singer.</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
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		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lorraine Hunt Lieberson</description>
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		<title>By: MontyNostry</title>
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		<dc:creator>MontyNostry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m being obtuse here, I&#039;m sure, but who is LHL?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m being obtuse here, I&#8217;m sure, but who is LHL?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we await JJ&#039;s Carmen review, Martin Bernheimer&#039;s pithy take on the production is at http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/7aaf88fc-f953-11de-80dc-00144feab49a.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we await JJ&#8217;s Carmen review, Martin Bernheimer&#8217;s pithy take on the production is at <a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/7aaf88fc-f953-11de-80dc-00144feab49a.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/7aaf88fc-f953-11de-80dc-00144feab49a.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: perfidia</title>
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		<dc:creator>perfidia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That galvany mosntrosity is lots of fun, but music it ain&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That galvany mosntrosity is lots of fun, but music it ain&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Jikes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Jikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Madame - your post is a howler.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bahr-Mindenburg sang Klytemnestra from 1908 until 1930 - supposedly she &quot;declaimed it&quot;  There are quite a few photos of her as Klytemnestra in various books about the Vienna Court Opera as well as photos of her as Isolde and Amneris.  She is rather angular looking - her poses always dramatic.  Certainly not a heavy woman.  One critic who saw her at the end of her career said he had witnessed her last appearance at the State Opera &quot;she declaimed Klytemnestra&#039;s screams in Strauss&#039; Elektra almsot voicelessly and with expensive gestures, but still made a strong impression.  Sometimes, it must be said, she would make an unintentially comic impression when she gave her all in public performances, using gestural techniques learned during the time of Mahler and Cosima Wagner, which resulted that she was unkindly called Reichsgebaerdenmutter (Reich&#039;s mime-mother) during the Hitler Era.  Mahler had an affection for singers who acted (and with their voices) even if they were not Melba types vocally at all (anyway he had Selma kurz) - Marie Gutheil-Schroder was another one who sang almost everythng, Octavian, Musette. all 3 roles in Tales of Hoffmann, Komponist, Carmen.  Singers in those days did not consider so much in which Fach they were singing. - look at Maria Nemeth. (Tosca, Turandot, Constanza, Aida, Queen of the Night)  And by the way Lilli Lehmann sang the witch in Hansel und Gretel in Vienna in 1894.  Bahr-Mildenburg sang Isolde in Vienna in 1900 and she was 28 and her stage debut as Bruennhilde in Hamburg was definitely when she was 23.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bahr-Mindenburg sang Klytemnestra from 1908 until 1930 &#8211; supposedly she &#8220;declaimed it&#8221;  There are quite a few photos of her as Klytemnestra in various books about the Vienna Court Opera as well as photos of her as Isolde and Amneris.  She is rather angular looking &#8211; her poses always dramatic.  Certainly not a heavy woman.  One critic who saw her at the end of her career said he had witnessed her last appearance at the State Opera &#8220;she declaimed Klytemnestra&#8217;s screams in Strauss&#8217; Elektra almsot voicelessly and with expensive gestures, but still made a strong impression.  Sometimes, it must be said, she would make an unintentially comic impression when she gave her all in public performances, using gestural techniques learned during the time of Mahler and Cosima Wagner, which resulted that she was unkindly called Reichsgebaerdenmutter (Reich&#8217;s mime-mother) during the Hitler Era.  Mahler had an affection for singers who acted (and with their voices) even if they were not Melba types vocally at all (anyway he had Selma kurz) &#8211; Marie Gutheil-Schroder was another one who sang almost everythng, Octavian, Musette. all 3 roles in Tales of Hoffmann, Komponist, Carmen.  Singers in those days did not consider so much in which Fach they were singing. &#8211; look at Maria Nemeth. (Tosca, Turandot, Constanza, Aida, Queen of the Night)  And by the way Lilli Lehmann sang the witch in Hansel und Gretel in Vienna in 1894.  Bahr-Mildenburg sang Isolde in Vienna in 1900 and she was 28 and her stage debut as Bruennhilde in Hamburg was definitely when she was 23.</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
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		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mme C/F: Thanks for that great &quot;Es gibt in Reich&quot; (or whatever it&#039;s called in English) from Farrell. A wonderful piece of singing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mme C/F: Thanks for that great &#8220;Es gibt in Reich&#8221; (or whatever it&#8217;s called in English) from Farrell. A wonderful piece of singing!</p>
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		<title>By: mrsjohnclaggart</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrsjohnclaggart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Jakes: &quot;... and being something of an acolyte of Mrs JC ... La Chinchilla’s prose is worthy of Nabokov. I have read the damn post 50 times. The assault on Madame Claggart’s political asides is Swiftian in its savagery.&quot;

You must very stupid darling. I can do without you as an &quot;acolyte&quot; (nor am I looking here or anywhere for such). You haven&#039;t read or certainly understood any Nabokov if you think this grotesque&#039;s vomit displays anything like his control, precision, cross linguistic puns or insights -- and while a place like this doesn&#039;t conduce to a serious writer&#039;s discipline in revision, even Nabokov&#039;s casual letters and postcards reveal a remarkable off the cuff verbal virtuosity.

Nor have you really understood Swift. The key to brilliant polemic is an underlying logic and precision, not scattershot free association and reverse pretension along with lies.

The loathsome nonentities&#039; gloss on comments I may have made elsewhere is lost on most of those here and irrelevant to them as ought to be the case. But what you and the preposterous goon think of as &#039;my&#039; political asides are humanitarian concerns with pointless, mindless slaughter of innocents regardless of the lying justifications of those who defend such slaughter. Neither Swift nor especially Nabokov were taken in by tyrants and the slobbering adulators who are too stupid to think for themselves and support them. In fact their contempt for the dumb fellow travelers like you and I assume your hero(ine) was terrifying. It seems to me that you and the fool you admire are moral nonentities and that is far worse than loving Behrens.

So please ignore me or join in with your hero (ine) -- fools belong in peepods where being empty above they can at least keep their cockles warm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Jakes: &#8220;&#8230; and being something of an acolyte of Mrs JC &#8230; La Chinchilla’s prose is worthy of Nabokov. I have read the damn post 50 times. The assault on Madame Claggart’s political asides is Swiftian in its savagery.&#8221;</p>
<p>You must very stupid darling. I can do without you as an &#8220;acolyte&#8221; (nor am I looking here or anywhere for such). You haven&#8217;t read or certainly understood any Nabokov if you think this grotesque&#8217;s vomit displays anything like his control, precision, cross linguistic puns or insights &#8212; and while a place like this doesn&#8217;t conduce to a serious writer&#8217;s discipline in revision, even Nabokov&#8217;s casual letters and postcards reveal a remarkable off the cuff verbal virtuosity.</p>
<p>Nor have you really understood Swift. The key to brilliant polemic is an underlying logic and precision, not scattershot free association and reverse pretension along with lies.</p>
<p>The loathsome nonentities&#8217; gloss on comments I may have made elsewhere is lost on most of those here and irrelevant to them as ought to be the case. But what you and the preposterous goon think of as &#8216;my&#8217; political asides are humanitarian concerns with pointless, mindless slaughter of innocents regardless of the lying justifications of those who defend such slaughter. Neither Swift nor especially Nabokov were taken in by tyrants and the slobbering adulators who are too stupid to think for themselves and support them. In fact their contempt for the dumb fellow travelers like you and I assume your hero(ine) was terrifying. It seems to me that you and the fool you admire are moral nonentities and that is far worse than loving Behrens.</p>
<p>So please ignore me or join in with your hero (ine) &#8212; fools belong in peepods where being empty above they can at least keep their cockles warm.</p>
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		<title>By: Krunoslav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krunoslav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No self-pity in what I wrote, Marsh Gas II -- pity must be reserved for such as you.

I realize you are not writing in your native language; that might impel someone self-aware and intelligent not to criticize others&#039; rhetoric or reading abilities.

BTW, did Signor di Stefano tip you after his meal when you gave him back the keys to the Alfa Romeo you brought from the parking lot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No self-pity in what I wrote, Marsh Gas II &#8212; pity must be reserved for such as you.</p>
<p>I realize you are not writing in your native language; that might impel someone self-aware and intelligent not to criticize others&#8217; rhetoric or reading abilities.</p>
<p>BTW, did Signor di Stefano tip you after his meal when you gave him back the keys to the Alfa Romeo you brought from the parking lot?</p>
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		<title>By: CerquettiFarrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>CerquettiFarrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too. Isn&#039;t there a solo big entrance for Elena on B flat or something? A-L just pins me down there! The mezzo origins contributed to some strain here and there, but the quality sounds sheer velvet and lava, absolutely addictive once when &quot;registered&quot; in the memory. I appreciate and love the artist within, the interpretative fire and the humility in the singing. I know Callas said that she regarded Muzio as her ideal, yet the similarity between A-L and Callas is surely striking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too. Isn&#8217;t there a solo big entrance for Elena on B flat or something? A-L just pins me down there! The mezzo origins contributed to some strain here and there, but the quality sounds sheer velvet and lava, absolutely addictive once when &#8220;registered&#8221; in the memory. I appreciate and love the artist within, the interpretative fire and the humility in the singing. I know Callas said that she regarded Muzio as her ideal, yet the similarity between A-L and Callas is surely striking.</p>
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		<title>By: CerquettiFarrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>CerquettiFarrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chrys, not Klyt. She wasn&#039;t that far gone by then to sing soprano. Strauss terribly wanted her for the Hauptrolle after the Dresden premiere with Krull, but she said no no no. And went on to sing Chrys and had a big big success in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chrys, not Klyt. She wasn&#8217;t that far gone by then to sing soprano. Strauss terribly wanted her for the Hauptrolle after the Dresden premiere with Krull, but she said no no no. And went on to sing Chrys and had a big big success in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Jikes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Jikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a moral aversion to fur - or fur trim - and being something of an acolyte of Mrs JC, I find it odd to be so dazzled by the linguistic pyrotechnics of La Chinchilla. But after enduring a certain review of the Met&#039;s Hoffmann I suppose I have a disposition toward anything that is not Squirrel.
La Chinchilla&#039;s prose is worthy of Nabokov. I have read the damn post 50 times.  The assault on Madame Claggart&#039;s political asides is Swiftian in its savagery.
Who&#039;s afraid of Madame? I am. 
Chinchilla, once again - Whew!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a moral aversion to fur &#8211; or fur trim &#8211; and being something of an acolyte of Mrs JC, I find it odd to be so dazzled by the linguistic pyrotechnics of La Chinchilla. But after enduring a certain review of the Met&#8217;s Hoffmann I suppose I have a disposition toward anything that is not Squirrel.<br />
La Chinchilla&#8217;s prose is worthy of Nabokov. I have read the damn post 50 times.  The assault on Madame Claggart&#8217;s political asides is Swiftian in its savagery.<br />
Who&#8217;s afraid of Madame? I am.<br />
Chinchilla, once again &#8211; Whew!</p>
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		<title>By: Krunoslav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krunoslav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 05:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ciao, Camille

The Rhodes/Olvis SALOME was in 1962. By 1973 they were both long gone from the Met, as was Ramon Vinay.

Olvis bowed out after a 1968 Brooklyn Parks CARMEN with Famous Quickly, Mary Ellen Pracht and Frank Guarrera.

I know him only from the RCA MACBETH recording. I gather he was TT-bait avant la lettre. Does anyone have any comments on his singing? They certainly sent him on often enough...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ciao, Camille</p>
<p>The Rhodes/Olvis SALOME was in 1962. By 1973 they were both long gone from the Met, as was Ramon Vinay.</p>
<p>Olvis bowed out after a 1968 Brooklyn Parks CARMEN with Famous Quickly, Mary Ellen Pracht and Frank Guarrera.</p>
<p>I know him only from the RCA MACBETH recording. I gather he was TT-bait avant la lettre. Does anyone have any comments on his singing? They certainly sent him on often enough&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: marshiemarkII</title>
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		<dc:creator>marshiemarkII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 05:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very lame, very lame indeed Herr Professor, not the greatest rethorical skills yours! self-pity, the last refuge of the scoundrel! poor you, such bad timing for your lies!

And insisting on &quot;Groupie&quot; name-caling is a bit well.... puerile, no?. Maybe 60 going on 14? what comes next, a class act elevation to &quot;the corpse fucker&quot;?
You are quite frankly BORING, much worse than evil! OVER</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very lame, very lame indeed Herr Professor, not the greatest rethorical skills yours! self-pity, the last refuge of the scoundrel! poor you, such bad timing for your lies!</p>
<p>And insisting on &#8220;Groupie&#8221; name-caling is a bit well&#8230;. puerile, no?. Maybe 60 going on 14? what comes next, a class act elevation to &#8220;the corpse fucker&#8221;?<br />
You are quite frankly BORING, much worse than evil! OVER</p>
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		<title>By: CruzSF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CruzSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 05:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>23 is a bit young for Brunnhilde. Did she become an actress in part because her singing voice was shredded? I know nothing about Bahr-Mildenburg (yet). What did your readings say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>23 is a bit young for Brunnhilde. Did she become an actress in part because her singing voice was shredded? I know nothing about Bahr-Mildenburg (yet). What did your readings say?</p>
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		<title>By: Krunoslav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krunoslav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 05:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Behrens Groupie, you must be beyond question the *most* self-infatuated, obsessive and delusional poster here; that is really a genuine achievement and we must salute it. Some day you must put pen to paper to record your experiences having served canapes to Rita Gorr at Montevideo&#039;s Belgian Embassy and of delivering a candygram to Maestro von Karajan&#039;s personal assistant in Graz.

Since your private Nibelheim apparently contains printouts of all of our past posts, I wonder how you can say that I ever said Obraztsova did not have, initially, an impressive instrument. And how! She just was no artist and had no linguistic abilities. I have heard her live in Mahler in Leningrad and in Weill on recordings; so what matter that she sang no &quot;German roles&quot;?

I don&#039;t care where Ms. Behrens&#039; mother was born-- the Berlioz/Ravel recording speaks for itself as to her abilities in putting across sung French.

How exactly I was meant to anticipate Ms. Behrens&#039; indeed sadly early death by a month and thus avoid &quot;indecency&quot; (you have been studying tapes of Joseph Welch, I see) remains a mystery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Behrens Groupie, you must be beyond question the *most* self-infatuated, obsessive and delusional poster here; that is really a genuine achievement and we must salute it. Some day you must put pen to paper to record your experiences having served canapes to Rita Gorr at Montevideo&#8217;s Belgian Embassy and of delivering a candygram to Maestro von Karajan&#8217;s personal assistant in Graz.</p>
<p>Since your private Nibelheim apparently contains printouts of all of our past posts, I wonder how you can say that I ever said Obraztsova did not have, initially, an impressive instrument. And how! She just was no artist and had no linguistic abilities. I have heard her live in Mahler in Leningrad and in Weill on recordings; so what matter that she sang no &#8220;German roles&#8221;?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care where Ms. Behrens&#8217; mother was born&#8211; the Berlioz/Ravel recording speaks for itself as to her abilities in putting across sung French.</p>
<p>How exactly I was meant to anticipate Ms. Behrens&#8217; indeed sadly early death by a month and thus avoid &#8220;indecency&#8221; (you have been studying tapes of Joseph Welch, I see) remains a mystery.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 05:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna von Mildernburg later Anna Bahr-Mildenburg (1872-1947), who made her debut at the age of 23 as Bruennhilde in Hamburg and was singing Kundry at Bayreuth at the age of 25, was mainly connected with the Vienna Opera and later became an actress.  I have read that some considered her to be the greatest Isolde of them all. Mahler was totally enamoured with her both on stage and off.  Her only recording according to JB Steane is the opening section of &quot;Ocean, thou mighty monster&quot; from 1904 and &quot;remarkable for its breadth and grandeur&quot;  - She was also Klytemnestra I think in the first Vienna production of Elektra in 1909.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna von Mildernburg later Anna Bahr-Mildenburg (1872-1947), who made her debut at the age of 23 as Bruennhilde in Hamburg and was singing Kundry at Bayreuth at the age of 25, was mainly connected with the Vienna Opera and later became an actress.  I have read that some considered her to be the greatest Isolde of them all. Mahler was totally enamoured with her both on stage and off.  Her only recording according to JB Steane is the opening section of &#8220;Ocean, thou mighty monster&#8221; from 1904 and &#8220;remarkable for its breadth and grandeur&#8221;  &#8211; She was also Klytemnestra I think in the first Vienna production of Elektra in 1909.</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 04:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count Krunoslav -- Thank you for the post re Salome of Jane Rhodes (I cannot imagine what that must have been!)

I thank you, as I notice *shocked* that my mother&#039;s cousin by marriage, namely, William Olivis, was still singing at the MET in 1973.  I had no idea he lasted that long.

He terrified me as a two year old when he lifted me on his shoulders and walked around the room, singing as loud as possible.  Come to think of it, perhaps that&#039;s why I&#039;ve been scared of tenors ever since --- HAHAHA! never thought of it like that before. Thanks again.  Interesting to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count Krunoslav &#8212; Thank you for the post re Salome of Jane Rhodes (I cannot imagine what that must have been!)</p>
<p>I thank you, as I notice *shocked* that my mother&#8217;s cousin by marriage, namely, William Olivis, was still singing at the MET in 1973.  I had no idea he lasted that long.</p>
<p>He terrified me as a two year old when he lifted me on his shoulders and walked around the room, singing as loud as possible.  Come to think of it, perhaps that&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve been scared of tenors ever since &#8212; HAHAHA! never thought of it like that before. Thanks again.  Interesting to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Sanford, there is is no second high C.

There is, in the first part of the scene, an opportunity for an extra, interpolated B flat.  It would be easy for someone to mistake the two, as they both sound very high.

The extra B flat occurs on the second page (I do not have the Peters score), I would conjecture, on the word THOU -- or DU auf deutsch --in the phrase, &quot;art THOU, terrible indeed!&quot; -- sorry, can&#039;t remember the deutsch of the entire phrase at the moment as it is late, but I&#039;m sure you can figure it all out from here as you have studied singing.  Okay?  Hope this clarifies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Sanford, there is is no second high C.</p>
<p>There is, in the first part of the scene, an opportunity for an extra, interpolated B flat.  It would be easy for someone to mistake the two, as they both sound very high.</p>
<p>The extra B flat occurs on the second page (I do not have the Peters score), I would conjecture, on the word THOU &#8212; or DU auf deutsch &#8211;in the phrase, &#8220;art THOU, terrible indeed!&#8221; &#8212; sorry, can&#8217;t remember the deutsch of the entire phrase at the moment as it is late, but I&#8217;m sure you can figure it all out from here as you have studied singing.  Okay?  Hope this clarifies.</p>
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		<title>By: enzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>enzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marshie, cut out the name dropping. It&#039;s in very bad taste--like your veneration of the mediocre Behrens.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marshie, cut out the name dropping. It&#8217;s in very bad taste&#8211;like your veneration of the mediocre Behrens.</p>
<p>@68.3</p>
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		<title>By: Sanford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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