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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-2/#comment-109563</link>
		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Sir MM, not directed at you, just in general, as I think Squirrel has to banter a great deal to defend his position. It seems to me he has a great deal of potential and I want him to be able to get on with it. Actually, the question you raised is apt. 

May I ask you, as you are quite the Steber expert, which of her two Vanessas do you think the better, and why?  Just recently have I purchased her Salzburg Vanessa, which I enjoy enormously for Gedda and Elias. I feel she was slightly better in the studio recording but it is now a long while I&#039;ve not heard it. 
What do you have to say about this marvelous singer, whom I&#039;ve only gotten acquainted with, in the last ten years. 
Her Kaiserin and Minnie are very fine -- I have not heard her Elsa, but am aware she sang it. 


As well, at the time of the Vanessa premiere at the Met in &#039;58, what were the reactions of the press and public. 

Thank you. 
I only ask as you appear to me to know the difference between scheiss und shinola.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Sir MM, not directed at you, just in general, as I think Squirrel has to banter a great deal to defend his position. It seems to me he has a great deal of potential and I want him to be able to get on with it. Actually, the question you raised is apt. </p>
<p>May I ask you, as you are quite the Steber expert, which of her two Vanessas do you think the better, and why?  Just recently have I purchased her Salzburg Vanessa, which I enjoy enormously for Gedda and Elias. I feel she was slightly better in the studio recording but it is now a long while I&#8217;ve not heard it.<br />
What do you have to say about this marvelous singer, whom I&#8217;ve only gotten acquainted with, in the last ten years.<br />
Her Kaiserin and Minnie are very fine &#8212; I have not heard her Elsa, but am aware she sang it. </p>
<p>As well, at the time of the Vanessa premiere at the Met in &#8217;58, what were the reactions of the press and public. </p>
<p>Thank you.<br />
I only ask as you appear to me to know the difference between scheiss und shinola.</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...the FRUIT of a fallacious culture...&quot;?


How utterly delicious, coming from la bocca della verita di Frego!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;the FRUIT of a fallacious culture&#8230;&#8221;?</p>
<p>How utterly delicious, coming from la bocca della verita di Frego!</p>
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		<title>By: davehs23</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-2/#comment-109549</link>
		<dc:creator>davehs23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please tell me, La Cieca, it isn&#039;t so. (Bad cliche enough for starting out here?)  You mean that Micaela appeared on stage with greying hair without even a touch or stronger hint than that (hopefully) of Bunuel (or Dali)-esque irony? (Take your pick).  If not, it looks like Barenboim, Lissner &amp; Co have invited us to Zambello-land, in terms of all the layered on and one to two dimensional cliche and hype surrounding this.

Where was anything about the music, how it got played, to complement what Dante did with the staging?  You certainly made the case, though complimenting Kaufmann too much (but I trust more astute in judging diction of about the entire cast) that there was as much a lack of connection or focus to the whole thing, such as happened with both the Met Tosca (Bondy) and Salome (Flimm). Barenboim, with what producers he has worked with before, definitely knows better, so he is one the two involved in all this, with Lissner, who is without excuse the most. 

Thank you very generously in advance, unless you have something strong enough to say otherwise, for saving my time and effort come a Sunday afternoon in March,
when I most likely will not be attending this.  Any twinge of doubt I had about prejudging anything, in what I&#039;ve written on my blog) has most certainly vanished now, as though into thin air. Your review, and I feel it haughty for me to say it, is equally as worthy as mine.  I had plans, had intended to see it, but neither one of the two theaters here (Rave and Santikos) that do world opera in HD were willing to show it, whereas had I lived in Tulsa instead of Houston I might&#039;ve had even a very easy time getting there to do so.

www.thedavidsoperaworldblog.blogspot.com  Not that it needs it, certainly not as much as mine, but notice of review on your site will post on my blog straight away.

David S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please tell me, La Cieca, it isn&#8217;t so. (Bad cliche enough for starting out here?)  You mean that Micaela appeared on stage with greying hair without even a touch or stronger hint than that (hopefully) of Bunuel (or Dali)-esque irony? (Take your pick).  If not, it looks like Barenboim, Lissner &amp; Co have invited us to Zambello-land, in terms of all the layered on and one to two dimensional cliche and hype surrounding this.</p>
<p>Where was anything about the music, how it got played, to complement what Dante did with the staging?  You certainly made the case, though complimenting Kaufmann too much (but I trust more astute in judging diction of about the entire cast) that there was as much a lack of connection or focus to the whole thing, such as happened with both the Met Tosca (Bondy) and Salome (Flimm). Barenboim, with what producers he has worked with before, definitely knows better, so he is one the two involved in all this, with Lissner, who is without excuse the most. </p>
<p>Thank you very generously in advance, unless you have something strong enough to say otherwise, for saving my time and effort come a Sunday afternoon in March,<br />
when I most likely will not be attending this.  Any twinge of doubt I had about prejudging anything, in what I&#8217;ve written on my blog) has most certainly vanished now, as though into thin air. Your review, and I feel it haughty for me to say it, is equally as worthy as mine.  I had plans, had intended to see it, but neither one of the two theaters here (Rave and Santikos) that do world opera in HD were willing to show it, whereas had I lived in Tulsa instead of Houston I might&#8217;ve had even a very easy time getting there to do so.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thedavidsoperaworldblog.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thedavidsoperaworldblog.blogspot.com</a>  Not that it needs it, certainly not as much as mine, but notice of review on your site will post on my blog straight away.</p>
<p>David S</p>
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		<title>By: mrmyster</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-2/#comment-109506</link>
		<dc:creator>mrmyster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Camille: You have convinced me! I am laying off Squirrel!
(Not that I was ever giving him a bad time.) But his nuts
are another matter, fair game.  Squirrel is, of course,
a highly prized member here, I was just questioning
a certain (familiar) critical issue. I have the problem
myself -- reviewing from those HD movie presentations.
I absolutely know they sound quite different in the house.
Oh, how I dread the upcoming Hoffman. That opera is
really sick-o.  &quot;Without redeeming qualities.&quot; And
Levine takes it sooooo seriously. Icky!  For sheer
theatrical enjoyment give me Parsifal any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Camille: You have convinced me! I am laying off Squirrel!<br />
(Not that I was ever giving him a bad time.) But his nuts<br />
are another matter, fair game.  Squirrel is, of course,<br />
a highly prized member here, I was just questioning<br />
a certain (familiar) critical issue. I have the problem<br />
myself &#8212; reviewing from those HD movie presentations.<br />
I absolutely know they sound quite different in the house.<br />
Oh, how I dread the upcoming Hoffman. That opera is<br />
really sick-o.  &#8220;Without redeeming qualities.&#8221; And<br />
Levine takes it sooooo seriously. Icky!  For sheer<br />
theatrical enjoyment give me Parsifal any day.</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-2/#comment-109503</link>
		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I DO apologize for my recalcitrant Blackberry&#039;s misbehavior in sending this message thrice. Perhaps it will work a charm. However, I do apologize. 

As far as Tosca, methinks I recall Alex Ross sizing it up in one apt and rarely applied word these days, &quot;FIASCO&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I DO apologize for my recalcitrant Blackberry&#8217;s misbehavior in sending this message thrice. Perhaps it will work a charm. However, I do apologize. </p>
<p>As far as Tosca, methinks I recall Alex Ross sizing it up in one apt and rarely applied word these days, &#8220;FIASCO&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: squirrel</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-2/#comment-109471</link>
		<dc:creator>squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emma Dante&#039;s web site is NSFW!
 (turn sound on)

www.emmadante.it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emma Dante&#8217;s web site is NSFW!<br />
 (turn sound on)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.emmadante.it" rel="nofollow">http://www.emmadante.it</a></p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-2/#comment-109468</link>
		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YO! Youse guyz! Lay off The Squirrel! He&#039;s got a lot of nuts to gather before the snows really come down on us. 

&quot;Must the winter come So SOOOOOOOON??&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YO! Youse guyz! Lay off The Squirrel! He&#8217;s got a lot of nuts to gather before the snows really come down on us. </p>
<p>&#8220;Must the winter come So SOOOOOOOON??&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Countess Guess-wit</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-1/#comment-109452</link>
		<dc:creator>Countess Guess-wit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ITA, Squirrel. My beef with Dante was that,as a meditation on gender, the production was just thuggish &amp; dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ITA, Squirrel. My beef with Dante was that,as a meditation on gender, the production was just thuggish &amp; dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: La Cieca</title>
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		<dc:creator>La Cieca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to jump too quickly to Squirrel&#039;s defense, but the producers of the &lt;I&gt;Carmen&lt;/i&gt; HD and indeed the people who create any sort of opera recording are at least implicitly saying to the listener, &quot;This is a representation of how the performance sounds in the theater.&quot; So I think it&#039;s fair for a reviewer to make judgments on the singing, orchestra balances and so forth based on the HD experience. The problem would be if the reviewer tried to trick the reader into thinking the critique was based on a live in-house experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to jump too quickly to Squirrel&#8217;s defense, but the producers of the <i>Carmen</i> HD and indeed the people who create any sort of opera recording are at least implicitly saying to the listener, &#8220;This is a representation of how the performance sounds in the theater.&#8221; So I think it&#8217;s fair for a reviewer to make judgments on the singing, orchestra balances and so forth based on the HD experience. The problem would be if the reviewer tried to trick the reader into thinking the critique was based on a live in-house experience.</p>
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		<title>By: squirrel</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-2/#comment-109436</link>
		<dc:creator>squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was asked to review the HD transfer of the event, and did the best a squirrel can do to judge the performance through that lens(/microphone)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was asked to review the HD transfer of the event, and did the best a squirrel can do to judge the performance through that lens(/microphone)</p>
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		<title>By: Zerbinetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zerbinetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Pedruzzi also did the sets for the most-definitely-not-a-flop &quot;From the House of the Dead.&quot;

BTW, the Bayerische Staatsoper is renting out the Tosca for next summer, it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Pedruzzi also did the sets for the most-definitely-not-a-flop &#8220;From the House of the Dead.&#8221;</p>
<p>BTW, the Bayerische Staatsoper is renting out the Tosca for next summer, it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: mandryka</title>
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		<dc:creator>mandryka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a bit much to presume a stipulation that the Bondy Tosca is now ackmowledged to have been a failure.  I saw it four times, and each time I found it musically thrilling and dramatically incisive and excting.  Audience response was wildely enthusiastic and lengthy for all performances.

Wasn&#039;t perfect, but SO much better than many others I&#039;ve seen over the last few decades.  The FZ production had long since seen its day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a bit much to presume a stipulation that the Bondy Tosca is now ackmowledged to have been a failure.  I saw it four times, and each time I found it musically thrilling and dramatically incisive and excting.  Audience response was wildely enthusiastic and lengthy for all performances.</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t perfect, but SO much better than many others I&#8217;ve seen over the last few decades.  The FZ production had long since seen its day.</p>
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		<title>By: CruzSF</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-2/#comment-109424</link>
		<dc:creator>CruzSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given how often people (here and elsewhere) make judgments about singers based on Youtube videos, positive and negative, a review of the broadcast seems valid and legitimate. At least as long as we all understand that it&#039;s not quite the same as hearing the performance live in the house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given how often people (here and elsewhere) make judgments about singers based on Youtube videos, positive and negative, a review of the broadcast seems valid and legitimate. At least as long as we all understand that it&#8217;s not quite the same as hearing the performance live in the house.</p>
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		<title>By: squirrel</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-1/#comment-109413</link>
		<dc:creator>squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me say here that I have absolutely no fights to pick with Feminism, nor PETA for that matter, but rather I question &quot;issues-based art&quot; that relies on rhetorical devices to ply the audience into sharing the creator&#039;s political or social views. It&#039;s essentially propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me say here that I have absolutely no fights to pick with Feminism, nor PETA for that matter, but rather I question &#8220;issues-based art&#8221; that relies on rhetorical devices to ply the audience into sharing the creator&#8217;s political or social views. It&#8217;s essentially propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: squirrel</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-1/#comment-109410</link>
		<dc:creator>squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eman: it&#039;s a good point. I only know what was heard via the broadcast. I can say, however, that the look on ms. Dante&#039;s face during the booing was consistent with someone being booed loudly  - she was pale as a sheet, biting her lip, and seemed to want to run off the stage as soon as possible. Many of the Symphony Space viewers had already left by this point and came rushing back into the hall to see what the booing sounds were all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eman: it&#8217;s a good point. I only know what was heard via the broadcast. I can say, however, that the look on ms. Dante&#8217;s face during the booing was consistent with someone being booed loudly  &#8211; she was pale as a sheet, biting her lip, and seemed to want to run off the stage as soon as possible. Many of the Symphony Space viewers had already left by this point and came rushing back into the hall to see what the booing sounds were all about.</p>
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		<title>By: mrmyster</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-2/#comment-109407</link>
		<dc:creator>mrmyster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Squirrel: Your review is really interesting, but tell us this--can  you realistically make such definitive and analytic comments about voices based on broadcast sound?  I have never thought that quite accurate or fair.
From this account of the Scala production, I&#039;ll take Peter Brooks&#039; The Tragedy of Carmen any day -- one of the original pieces of regie opera theatre and a success by my perception. 
Thanks for your report Mr. S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Squirrel: Your review is really interesting, but tell us this&#8211;can  you realistically make such definitive and analytic comments about voices based on broadcast sound?  I have never thought that quite accurate or fair.<br />
From this account of the Scala production, I&#8217;ll take Peter Brooks&#8217; The Tragedy of Carmen any day &#8212; one of the original pieces of regie opera theatre and a success by my perception.<br />
Thanks for your report Mr. S.</p>
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		<title>By: squirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>def. squeezing &quot;Porcata&quot; into my next review tho....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>def. squeezing &#8220;Porcata&#8221; into my next review tho&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: squirrel</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-2/#comment-109404</link>
		<dc:creator>squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite ticket sales,after the dust settled the Bondy Tosca has proved both a critical and a popular failure, or that seems to be where the failometer is reading. But let&#039;s all please not start going there!!

I once participated in a &quot;trilingual carmen&quot; but now my college days are over and I have stopped smoking Peyote. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite ticket sales,after the dust settled the Bondy Tosca has proved both a critical and a popular failure, or that seems to be where the failometer is reading. But let&#8217;s all please not start going there!!</p>
<p>I once participated in a &#8220;trilingual carmen&#8221; but now my college days are over and I have stopped smoking Peyote. <img src='http://parterre.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Countess Guess-wit</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-1/#comment-109403</link>
		<dc:creator>Countess Guess-wit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;m another part-time feminist, and I was surprised by that part of Squirrel&#039;s well-written review.  I left the (movie) theater thinking Dante seemed to have gone out of her way to be as un-feminist as possible.  Pervasive, if stylized, violence against female characters doesn&#039;t seem feminist, nor does the notion that &quot;Women&quot; (i.e. Carmen) have/has no agency in life beyond sexual infidelity.  That kind of bugged me about the production (at least as it came accross on a cinema screen in small-town New Mexico).

I kind of figured Dante set herself up for booing no matter what by her smart-alecky remarks to the press in the past few weeks.  A Sicilian telling the Milanese press that she has never bothered to set foot in La Scala before being employed there is going to get crucified (and she had to know that, didn&#039;t she?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m another part-time feminist, and I was surprised by that part of Squirrel&#8217;s well-written review.  I left the (movie) theater thinking Dante seemed to have gone out of her way to be as un-feminist as possible.  Pervasive, if stylized, violence against female characters doesn&#8217;t seem feminist, nor does the notion that &#8220;Women&#8221; (i.e. Carmen) have/has no agency in life beyond sexual infidelity.  That kind of bugged me about the production (at least as it came accross on a cinema screen in small-town New Mexico).</p>
<p>I kind of figured Dante set herself up for booing no matter what by her smart-alecky remarks to the press in the past few weeks.  A Sicilian telling the Milanese press that she has never bothered to set foot in La Scala before being employed there is going to get crucified (and she had to know that, didn&#8217;t she?)</p>
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		<title>By: squirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. it&#039;s rough being on the same side of an issue as Zeffirelli. I&#039;d better watch my step!</description>
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		<title>By: Zerbinetta</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-1/#comment-109396</link>
		<dc:creator>Zerbinetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Maury.  I meant that partly in jest in the hope that I&#039;m not actually the only one.

But I&#039;m just a loudmouthed harpy, I can&#039;t help it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Maury.  I meant that partly in jest in the hope that I&#8217;m not actually the only one.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m just a loudmouthed harpy, I can&#8217;t help it.</p>
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		<title>By: Krunoslav</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-1/#comment-109394</link>
		<dc:creator>Krunoslav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, Maury, well spake!</description>
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		<title>By: Violetta</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-1/#comment-109390</link>
		<dc:creator>Violetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya know, Eman, I wish mike placement could have sped up Barenboim&#039;s sleepytime tempi, or given Micaela an actual singing voice. /Polite bit of clapping/ from Violetta, because she&#039;s just not rude enough to holler boos at musicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya know, Eman, I wish mike placement could have sped up Barenboim&#8217;s sleepytime tempi, or given Micaela an actual singing voice. /Polite bit of clapping/ from Violetta, because she&#8217;s just not rude enough to holler boos at musicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Maury</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-1/#comment-109389</link>
		<dc:creator>Maury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Au contraire, a resident feminist might be not such a bad thing for the occasions when old school &quot;let&#039;s call women &#039;fish&#039; because we homosexuals say the damndest things&quot; gaydom prevails in an embarrassing way. I&#039;m going to risk serious smarm here and mention briefly the non-monolithic, nuanced nature of actual feminism and suggest that plenty of us, I&#039;d hope, are part-time resident feminists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Au contraire, a resident feminist might be not such a bad thing for the occasions when old school &#8220;let&#8217;s call women &#8216;fish&#8217; because we homosexuals say the damndest things&#8221; gaydom prevails in an embarrassing way. I&#8217;m going to risk serious smarm here and mention briefly the non-monolithic, nuanced nature of actual feminism and suggest that plenty of us, I&#8217;d hope, are part-time resident feminists.</p>
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		<title>By: Maury</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-1/#comment-109388</link>
		<dc:creator>Maury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much esteemed Squirrel, with a special accent grave over the fourth &quot;e&quot; in esteemed so as to give it a very formal sounding syllable of its own:

This is a fine and literate review, but I must, Miss Gorightry, plotest the Tosca-Flop shorthand!  You&#039;ve said exactly what was wrong with it in the next paragraph, but why add into the Coliseum mentality with which productions are in danger of being judged?  Anyway isn&#039;t it rather well sold for a flop, I thought?

On another subject entirely, it is amusing to think of Schrott singing in Russian, and then get lost in non-homoerotic reverie about how maybe growing up in Baritonia or wherever he&#039;s from, he was this huge Arkhipova fan with pictures of her in his locker, and did it as a tribute to her famous trilingual Carmen with del Monaco.  I mean it isn&#039;t impossible.

Anyway this was a swell read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much esteemed Squirrel, with a special accent grave over the fourth &#8220;e&#8221; in esteemed so as to give it a very formal sounding syllable of its own:</p>
<p>This is a fine and literate review, but I must, Miss Gorightry, plotest the Tosca-Flop shorthand!  You&#8217;ve said exactly what was wrong with it in the next paragraph, but why add into the Coliseum mentality with which productions are in danger of being judged?  Anyway isn&#8217;t it rather well sold for a flop, I thought?</p>
<p>On another subject entirely, it is amusing to think of Schrott singing in Russian, and then get lost in non-homoerotic reverie about how maybe growing up in Baritonia or wherever he&#8217;s from, he was this huge Arkhipova fan with pictures of her in his locker, and did it as a tribute to her famous trilingual Carmen with del Monaco.  I mean it isn&#8217;t impossible.</p>
<p>Anyway this was a swell read.</p>
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		<title>By: Ercole Farnese</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-1/#comment-109386</link>
		<dc:creator>Ercole Farnese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, the usual Zeffirelli couldn&#039;t help keeping his mouth shut.  This is what he said today in an interview to Corriere della Sera: &quot;(Emma Dante&quot; is an irresponsible woman, the fruit of a fallacious culture, author of ugly costumes one wouldn&#039;t even find in a provincial opera house, and assisted by a worthless set designer (Richard Peruzzi).  It is a scandal that La Scala has done this kind of crap ( &quot;porcata is the word he uses) with the presumptuousness of teaching young people what opera is about.  This lady has transformed Carmen in a demon, demonstrating that she ignores nineteenth century literature, which is full of women rebelling to male abuse of power, without however becoming devils.  And Carmen is one of them.  Baremboin, extraordinary pianist and grandiose conductor, is a prankster and this time he made himself accomplice of a crime. Such a thing would have never happened with Kleiber or Karajan&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the usual Zeffirelli couldn&#8217;t help keeping his mouth shut.  This is what he said today in an interview to Corriere della Sera: &#8220;(Emma Dante&#8221; is an irresponsible woman, the fruit of a fallacious culture, author of ugly costumes one wouldn&#8217;t even find in a provincial opera house, and assisted by a worthless set designer (Richard Peruzzi).  It is a scandal that La Scala has done this kind of crap ( &#8220;porcata is the word he uses) with the presumptuousness of teaching young people what opera is about.  This lady has transformed Carmen in a demon, demonstrating that she ignores nineteenth century literature, which is full of women rebelling to male abuse of power, without however becoming devils.  And Carmen is one of them.  Baremboin, extraordinary pianist and grandiose conductor, is a prankster and this time he made himself accomplice of a crime. Such a thing would have never happened with Kleiber or Karajan&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: romani</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-1/#comment-109383</link>
		<dc:creator>romani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that the reports in the Corriere della sera give the impression of an equal mixture of bravas and boos.</description>
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		<title>By: manou</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-1/#comment-109372</link>
		<dc:creator>manou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A resident feminist is not exactly what this blog has been crying for...

Hair pulling is easier if you have long hair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A resident feminist is not exactly what this blog has been crying for&#8230;</p>
<p>Hair pulling is easier if you have long hair.</p>
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		<title>By: Zerbinetta</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/12/07/la-scala-upper-west/comment-page-1/#comment-109368</link>
		<dc:creator>Zerbinetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, since I seem to have appointed myself resident feminist: how is a &quot;hair-pulling catfight&quot; a &quot;feminist cliché&quot;?  I didn&#039;t see it, but it sounds like the opposite to me.  (Actually, I would argue that the fighting women, as they are written in the score, are another way the opera portrays women as animalistic and less rational than men.)

But thanks for the report, Squirrel, I couldn&#039;t go but it doesn&#039;t sound like I missed very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, since I seem to have appointed myself resident feminist: how is a &#8220;hair-pulling catfight&#8221; a &#8220;feminist cliché&#8221;?  I didn&#8217;t see it, but it sounds like the opposite to me.  (Actually, I would argue that the fighting women, as they are written in the score, are another way the opera portrays women as animalistic and less rational than men.)</p>
<p>But thanks for the report, Squirrel, I couldn&#8217;t go but it doesn&#8217;t sound like I missed very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Regina delle fate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regina delle fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peduzzi designed Chéreau&#039;s Lulu and the Paris Opera and his Bayreuth Ring, no?</description>
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