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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-1/#comment-107166</link>
		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanx for the philomel.

I looked for squirrels amidst the trees but saw none.

much better than that godawful kafka fragments, I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanx for the philomel.</p>
<p>I looked for squirrels amidst the trees but saw none.</p>
<p>much better than that godawful kafka fragments, I say.</p>
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		<title>By: No Expert</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Expert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I just listened to her &quot;Il est doux&quot; from Herodiade. Simply gorgeous! (Coincidentally we were just posting about Fleming&#039;s Salome the other day) Thanks for putting this on youtube. I&#039;m going to listen to the rest now. How can this never have been released on CD?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I just listened to her &#8220;Il est doux&#8221; from Herodiade. Simply gorgeous! (Coincidentally we were just posting about Fleming&#8217;s Salome the other day) Thanks for putting this on youtube. I&#8217;m going to listen to the rest now. How can this never have been released on CD?????</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-2/#comment-106419</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Pellas (comments 15) &amp; Jay (15.1.).... regarding the broken sprockets in CD cases..always have on  hand, spare case to suit the required number of Cd set boxes you make want to replace sometimes. If you have want to save &#039;good trays&#039; with good spockets&#039; from such multi CD cases It is easy to retrieve without breaking.To get the actual CD trays easily  out of cases: Be Careful: Get a box cutter blade and insert the blade  down &#039;beside each of the the 4 contact points &#039;plongs&#039; and between  the actual outer case that keep the CD trays in the transparent cases. 
To make sure sliding and scrapping of CDs never happen always open the cases in a &#039;flat position&#039;. Sideways, or vertically, if they are not fixed on the sprockets, they move and can get &#039;jammed between the opening between lid and the tray of a CD case., Before you sometimes could retrieve such a  situation -the CD could be &#039;crunched&#039; and surface scratched.

Now onto the &#039;guck&#039; that has deposited on what is usually  the label areas of CDs packed in those opera &#039;de luxe&#039; multi  disc plastic case boxes from corroding sponge foam packing inserts. Gently remove all the rubbish you can -without using hard objects or solvents. Remember the label side of a CD is  nowhere near as durable, thick or tough&#039; as the playing side. That was part of the original Philips invention plan for the &#039;CD Red Book Specifications&#039; for the CD as a &#039;playing Medium&#039;. As a backup before trying anything further, perhaps making a CD-R copy of the disc is in order as insurance ....as this could not be construed as &#039;piracy&#039;. Did you not also pay &#039;a user&#039;s copyright fee&#039; for the personal ( emphasise PERSONAL) use of the material when you purchased it. Yes, you certainly did!
Now the only possible &#039;safe trial;&#039; where increased &#039;damage&#039; to the disc will not take place, I know - is having a spare CD tray to lay down the CD at any time.. Then have a bowl of clean cold water,  and use a few drops of liquid dishwashing detergent in the water. .Bathe and gently rub the disc with balls of the best quality cotton wool as &#039;the rag&#039; , Then run the CD under cold water thoroughly, till it is rid of all trace of residual detergent. The Clue of cleanless: Bubbles of water settling all over the surface. Now dab the CD gently now with more clean dry cotton wool. Water drying patterns.... and dags of cotton wool tending to &#039;stick&#039; to the surface..... That&#039;s normal and natural - no panic. Then with more dry cotton wool and with your own breath - keep breathing on - and making a &#039;fog&#039; on the CD surface whilst gently polishing away these water mark patterns that will have naturally formed. The cotton wool &#039;dags&#039; release off the CD surface as well. It should be now a &#039;done job&#039; and hopefully improved - if not- solved your problem. Then if so, (&#039;to just cover any possible legal issues)  I should  remark  that then &quot;you can then destroy the &#039;for -personal insurance purpose only&#039; copy CD-R you made&quot;!.... Happy cleaning attempts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Pellas (comments 15) &amp; Jay (15.1.)&#8230;. regarding the broken sprockets in CD cases..always have on  hand, spare case to suit the required number of Cd set boxes you make want to replace sometimes. If you have want to save &#8216;good trays&#8217; with good spockets&#8217; from such multi CD cases It is easy to retrieve without breaking.To get the actual CD trays easily  out of cases: Be Careful: Get a box cutter blade and insert the blade  down &#8216;beside each of the the 4 contact points &#8216;plongs&#8217; and between  the actual outer case that keep the CD trays in the transparent cases.<br />
To make sure sliding and scrapping of CDs never happen always open the cases in a &#8216;flat position&#8217;. Sideways, or vertically, if they are not fixed on the sprockets, they move and can get &#8216;jammed between the opening between lid and the tray of a CD case., Before you sometimes could retrieve such a  situation -the CD could be &#8216;crunched&#8217; and surface scratched.</p>
<p>Now onto the &#8216;guck&#8217; that has deposited on what is usually  the label areas of CDs packed in those opera &#8216;de luxe&#8217; multi  disc plastic case boxes from corroding sponge foam packing inserts. Gently remove all the rubbish you can -without using hard objects or solvents. Remember the label side of a CD is  nowhere near as durable, thick or tough&#8217; as the playing side. That was part of the original Philips invention plan for the &#8216;CD Red Book Specifications&#8217; for the CD as a &#8216;playing Medium&#8217;. As a backup before trying anything further, perhaps making a CD-R copy of the disc is in order as insurance &#8230;.as this could not be construed as &#8216;piracy&#8217;. Did you not also pay &#8216;a user&#8217;s copyright fee&#8217; for the personal ( emphasise PERSONAL) use of the material when you purchased it. Yes, you certainly did!<br />
Now the only possible &#8216;safe trial;&#8217; where increased &#8216;damage&#8217; to the disc will not take place, I know &#8211; is having a spare CD tray to lay down the CD at any time.. Then have a bowl of clean cold water,  and use a few drops of liquid dishwashing detergent in the water. .Bathe and gently rub the disc with balls of the best quality cotton wool as &#8216;the rag&#8217; , Then run the CD under cold water thoroughly, till it is rid of all trace of residual detergent. The Clue of cleanless: Bubbles of water settling all over the surface. Now dab the CD gently now with more clean dry cotton wool. Water drying patterns&#8230;. and dags of cotton wool tending to &#8216;stick&#8217; to the surface&#8230;.. That&#8217;s normal and natural &#8211; no panic. Then with more dry cotton wool and with your own breath &#8211; keep breathing on &#8211; and making a &#8216;fog&#8217; on the CD surface whilst gently polishing away these water mark patterns that will have naturally formed. The cotton wool &#8216;dags&#8217; release off the CD surface as well. It should be now a &#8216;done job&#8217; and hopefully improved &#8211; if not- solved your problem. Then if so, (&#8216;to just cover any possible legal issues)  I should  remark  that then &#8220;you can then destroy the &#8216;for -personal insurance purpose only&#8217; copy CD-R you made&#8221;!&#8230;. Happy cleaning attempts.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanford</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-2/#comment-106413</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was lucky enough to find Moffo&#039;s French Heroines and Verdi Arias albums on Ebay on vinyl and posted them to Youtube; they&#039;ve never been released on CD that I&#039;m aware of. 

I think at some point even downloading will be obsolete and everything will exist in cloud computing. Instant access to all things at all time. Until, of course, the giant computer breaks down and all is lost. 

Until Michael York and Jenny Agutter escape and find Peter Ustinov guarding an old library filled with opera recordings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was lucky enough to find Moffo&#8217;s French Heroines and Verdi Arias albums on Ebay on vinyl and posted them to Youtube; they&#8217;ve never been released on CD that I&#8217;m aware of. </p>
<p>I think at some point even downloading will be obsolete and everything will exist in cloud computing. Instant access to all things at all time. Until, of course, the giant computer breaks down and all is lost. </p>
<p>Until Michael York and Jenny Agutter escape and find Peter Ustinov guarding an old library filled with opera recordings.</p>
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		<title>By: CruzSF</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-2/#comment-106409</link>
		<dc:creator>CruzSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The future is now.</description>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-2/#comment-106325</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that we’ve been side-stepping the issue a little bit here.  Technology changes.  That’s a given.  We know for a fact that while early recordings of Rosa Ponselle and Enrico Caruso can capture sensitive Italianate phrasing and certain aspects of quality musicianship, the sound quality is—how do I put it?—crap.  We’ve gone from that to 45s and LPs and on to cassettes and CDs.  Now, we can, if we choose—and I do choose—to listen to a lot of music on YouTube or download it with questionable legality and ethical justification from numerous Torrent programs
  	But the means of recording themselves are beside the point, because even the binary code-digital encryption of the human voice on a CD or hard drive does not begin to compare with the full-on sonic glory of a Deutsche Grammophon LP blasted through my speakers and reverberating off my drywall.  What we really need to have a look at is how classical music is distributed, and how those changing means of distribution mediate our perceptions of, and relationship with, live performance.
	Opera and classical music are not different from pop just because of musical style or the methods of production.  Pop music itself is a phenomenon of recorded music, and exists because of it.  Classical singing, on the other hand, exists, in many ways, in spite of recording.  Even though Cecilia Bartoli’s career might exist because of recording, the sound of her voice is—theoretically—the same on record as it is in live performance.  The same can almost never be said about pop music.  In classical recording, what we listeners seek is a representation of what we would hear live, so that we can conjure up in our minds the experience of being in a concert hall and experience sound firsthand, not filtered through a digital recording mechanism.  In pop music—which has given us the glories of the Beatles and Janis Joplin and Hendrix and the COMPLETELY kick@$$ Lady Gaga (holy shit she is insane but incredibly awesome)—the recording is often the gold standard by which we measure live performance.
	The question, therefore, is not how sounds will change on record or whether or not we will have better or different recording technology, but what that technology allows us to do.  And it lets us do a hell of a lot.  Gone are the days—which I never lived—when one had to sit alone and listen to a recording, or actually be in the physical presence of people in order to share the experience.  Blogs, YouTube, and other means of musical distribution and information dissemination have allowed us experiences of musical communion that would not be possible otherwise, and thank God for those experiences.  We can have conversations in real time, can comment on videos and disagree.  We can dissect the minutiae of Uchida’s Mozartean glory or revile Netrebko’s current attempts at Donizetti while being collectively captivated by her—hopefully increasingly frequent—returns to Russian repertoire.
	What I’m trying to say is that changes in how recordings are distributed allow an amazing opportunity to teach and to learn as a community.  We don’t have to do it alone.  So, for my money, the advent of the record and the subsequent changes in its production and dissemination, while relegating the genre of “classical” music to the dustbins of history, at the same time presents the industry with an enormously pregnant opportunity for expansion and inclusion.  The opera house or concert hall is simply inaccessible to many people, whereas pop music—the music, quite literally, of the record—offers easier and more affordable consumption.  Our current technology should allow us to bring new people into the fold and teach them to understand things that are pretty damn hard to understand.  I, therefore, am terribly excited to see what the recording industry has in store.  We shouldn’t be grasping our LPs of the 1953 Callas/de Sabata Tosca, but uploading them and sending them out to the world.  It’s an opportunity too good to waste, people.

(Trust me, it works.  I’m 22, knew next to nothing about opera—although was a big fan of piano literature.  But opera’s a whole different sport, and I learned a hell of a lot from blogs and YouTube, so that when I got to a live performance, I nearly shat myself with joy.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that we’ve been side-stepping the issue a little bit here.  Technology changes.  That’s a given.  We know for a fact that while early recordings of Rosa Ponselle and Enrico Caruso can capture sensitive Italianate phrasing and certain aspects of quality musicianship, the sound quality is—how do I put it?—crap.  We’ve gone from that to 45s and LPs and on to cassettes and CDs.  Now, we can, if we choose—and I do choose—to listen to a lot of music on YouTube or download it with questionable legality and ethical justification from numerous Torrent programs<br />
  	But the means of recording themselves are beside the point, because even the binary code-digital encryption of the human voice on a CD or hard drive does not begin to compare with the full-on sonic glory of a Deutsche Grammophon LP blasted through my speakers and reverberating off my drywall.  What we really need to have a look at is how classical music is distributed, and how those changing means of distribution mediate our perceptions of, and relationship with, live performance.<br />
	Opera and classical music are not different from pop just because of musical style or the methods of production.  Pop music itself is a phenomenon of recorded music, and exists because of it.  Classical singing, on the other hand, exists, in many ways, in spite of recording.  Even though Cecilia Bartoli’s career might exist because of recording, the sound of her voice is—theoretically—the same on record as it is in live performance.  The same can almost never be said about pop music.  In classical recording, what we listeners seek is a representation of what we would hear live, so that we can conjure up in our minds the experience of being in a concert hall and experience sound firsthand, not filtered through a digital recording mechanism.  In pop music—which has given us the glories of the Beatles and Janis Joplin and Hendrix and the COMPLETELY kick@$$ Lady Gaga (holy shit she is insane but incredibly awesome)—the recording is often the gold standard by which we measure live performance.<br />
	The question, therefore, is not how sounds will change on record or whether or not we will have better or different recording technology, but what that technology allows us to do.  And it lets us do a hell of a lot.  Gone are the days—which I never lived—when one had to sit alone and listen to a recording, or actually be in the physical presence of people in order to share the experience.  Blogs, YouTube, and other means of musical distribution and information dissemination have allowed us experiences of musical communion that would not be possible otherwise, and thank God for those experiences.  We can have conversations in real time, can comment on videos and disagree.  We can dissect the minutiae of Uchida’s Mozartean glory or revile Netrebko’s current attempts at Donizetti while being collectively captivated by her—hopefully increasingly frequent—returns to Russian repertoire.<br />
	What I’m trying to say is that changes in how recordings are distributed allow an amazing opportunity to teach and to learn as a community.  We don’t have to do it alone.  So, for my money, the advent of the record and the subsequent changes in its production and dissemination, while relegating the genre of “classical” music to the dustbins of history, at the same time presents the industry with an enormously pregnant opportunity for expansion and inclusion.  The opera house or concert hall is simply inaccessible to many people, whereas pop music—the music, quite literally, of the record—offers easier and more affordable consumption.  Our current technology should allow us to bring new people into the fold and teach them to understand things that are pretty damn hard to understand.  I, therefore, am terribly excited to see what the recording industry has in store.  We shouldn’t be grasping our LPs of the 1953 Callas/de Sabata Tosca, but uploading them and sending them out to the world.  It’s an opportunity too good to waste, people.</p>
<p>(Trust me, it works.  I’m 22, knew next to nothing about opera—although was a big fan of piano literature.  But opera’s a whole different sport, and I learned a hell of a lot from blogs and YouTube, so that when I got to a live performance, I nearly shat myself with joy.).</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pelleas, I have the same problem with a Gotterdammerung, i.e., the foam is encrusted on the CDs and I can&#039;t get it off. If you know of a solution my email is loge44@aol.com.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pelleas, I have the same problem with a Gotterdammerung, i.e., the foam is encrusted on the CDs and I can&#8217;t get it off. If you know of a solution my email is <a href="mailto:loge44@aol.com">loge44@aol.com</a>.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: MontyNostry</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-1/#comment-106310</link>
		<dc:creator>MontyNostry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just listening to Sacrificium (for professional purposes only). Can&#039;t wait for it to end. Who listens to this stuff? And she is really quite dull after a minute or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just listening to Sacrificium (for professional purposes only). Can&#8217;t wait for it to end. Who listens to this stuff? And she is really quite dull after a minute or so.</p>
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		<title>By: MontyNostry</title>
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		<dc:creator>MontyNostry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grace rules -- whether as princess or slave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grace rules &#8212; whether as princess or slave.</p>
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		<title>By: Critic of the Future</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-2/#comment-106293</link>
		<dc:creator>Critic of the Future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Before that day arrives, the ability to have a singer duet with herself in different roles from the same opera will become a reality.&lt;/i&gt;

Kennedy Center honoree Grace Bumbry, bringing you the future...yesterday: 

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oRpMGQmyG8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Before that day arrives, the ability to have a singer duet with herself in different roles from the same opera will become a reality.</i></p>
<p>Kennedy Center honoree Grace Bumbry, bringing you the future&#8230;yesterday: </p>
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		<title>By: Pelleas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pelleas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry--
I notice that happened to the foamy inserts in one of my Parsifals--is there any way to clean off what remains on the discs? It doesn&#039;t seem to effect playing, but there&#039;s definitely some stuff left there.

My other packaging peeve is the way the little center sprockets break off, leaving the disk to bang around in the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry&#8211;<br />
I notice that happened to the foamy inserts in one of my Parsifals&#8211;is there any way to clean off what remains on the discs? It doesn&#8217;t seem to effect playing, but there&#8217;s definitely some stuff left there.</p>
<p>My other packaging peeve is the way the little center sprockets break off, leaving the disk to bang around in the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-2/#comment-106250</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s so novel about this presentation / &#039;or soiree type &#039;having a ball&#039; -launch&#039; of Bartoli&#039;s DVD., recorded in some vague &#039;palace&#039;? Nothing, except for the sound of munching! ! Reminds, of situations where one sees a lamp post poster for some coming live rock gig  at some bar or pub of an unknown rock band celebrating the release of  their own produced CD. They probably rehearsed for &#039;the studio recording&#039; for months in some Dad&#039;s backyard garage. Palace or pub.....same sales method. Except, one is not serving imaginary &#039;ball floaters&#039;.

Bartoli should take a leaf out of darling Marlena Dietrich&#039;s book. At a hotel press conference once, where she was staying, whilst still performing...in the middle of this meeting,  the hotel tried its own promotion. In, came some dame from the Hotel,  with a new ice cream creation (shaped like an apple). She  announced to all present :- made in honor of and for Marlena : as &#039;Apple Marlena&#039;. She then proceeded to go on with a spiel that &#039;we know how Eve tempted Adam with an apple&#039;. Ms Dietrich rather displeased-  then grabbed it out of the woman&#039;s hands and unceremoniously dumped it on the floor! The Press Conference then continued with the no-nonsense Marlena.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s so novel about this presentation / &#8216;or soiree type &#8216;having a ball&#8217; -launch&#8217; of Bartoli&#8217;s DVD., recorded in some vague &#8216;palace&#8217;? Nothing, except for the sound of munching! ! Reminds, of situations where one sees a lamp post poster for some coming live rock gig  at some bar or pub of an unknown rock band celebrating the release of  their own produced CD. They probably rehearsed for &#8216;the studio recording&#8217; for months in some Dad&#8217;s backyard garage. Palace or pub&#8230;..same sales method. Except, one is not serving imaginary &#8216;ball floaters&#8217;.</p>
<p>Bartoli should take a leaf out of darling Marlena Dietrich&#8217;s book. At a hotel press conference once, where she was staying, whilst still performing&#8230;in the middle of this meeting,  the hotel tried its own promotion. In, came some dame from the Hotel,  with a new ice cream creation (shaped like an apple). She  announced to all present :- made in honor of and for Marlena : as &#8216;Apple Marlena&#8217;. She then proceeded to go on with a spiel that &#8216;we know how Eve tempted Adam with an apple&#8217;. Ms Dietrich rather displeased-  then grabbed it out of the woman&#8217;s hands and unceremoniously dumped it on the floor! The Press Conference then continued with the no-nonsense Marlena.</p>
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		<title>By: No Expert</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-2/#comment-106249</link>
		<dc:creator>No Expert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, the Tudor Trilogy starring Sills and Horne!</description>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-2/#comment-106240</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lindoro Almaviva (10#) I must correct a few points you make about the CD longevity issue. 

I have closely followed the recording indudstry and its processes for nearly 5 decades. I was given the gift of my first opening gramophone at age six, so passionate that I was. The degrading or the &#039;bronzing&#039; as it was termed of a very small number of CDs released at one period was caused by some out sourcing by major companies to small plants. (To some, here - do not confuse this problem &#039;if you have some of those genuine &#039;gold&#039; colored CD discs in your collection from some companies)  In just one known classic instance the &#039;bronzing from the silver&#039; problem  was traced back to a company working not to laid down specification-instead of following through the normal CD processes - short cut and applied a similar looking, but entirely different coating to the label area surface. It degraded by oxidation, and &#039;fractured&#039; allowing the laser beam to see &#039;nothing&#039;. Then there were also cases of air bubbles, traced in the finished product. It affected the released product of a few companies who had sub-let some of their work.. If a CD is thought faulty, hold the playing side up over the top of a light in a darkened room. If you see &#039;starlight twinkles&#039; coming through the label side...possible trouble the CD player&#039;s error mechanism cannot cope. 

Since we are all into opera here, a word of special warning worth taking heed of; 
Over the years the record companies took great trouble to present &#039;de-luxe&#039; looking presentations. You can open the plastic multi disc CD boxes holding the actual CDs and find &#039;cushions of sponge poly foam&#039; as well to protect them, packed.
GET THIS &quot;SHIT&quot; OUT OF THE BOXES NOW -if you want them to keep for many more years. It denatures over time. (A changing of its original color is a sure sign - usually from silvery white all the way to a sticky chocolate brown). It shrinks, goes &#039;sticky to the touch&#039; in some cases and if left, can ADHERE to the CDs -everything from leaving a slight &#039;print&#039; to ripping and damaging the label . If you have that &#039;hand print type mark&#039; situation left on the label, leave well enough alone. I know of no safe CD solvent to remove it ....short of ruining the CD.

As for also worrying about the clutter of DVDs from collecting one day. already there are at least two new patented copyrights for very advanced forms of Blu-Ray type discs. One has the potential of at least 6 times the storage capacity of an existing (50mb) Blu Ray - that of a figure of 300mb.

As for scratching, just look at how &#039;some clowns&#039; handle CDs and then &#039;bang&#039; them into players??
I may have at least 7000 but I know of not one, that has a mark or scratch. And it would show up...I examine every one even for a speck of dust , before it enters a player? Broken &#039;center sprockets&#039; holding a CD in its case, if found,; the CDs are immediately given a new case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindoro Almaviva (10#) I must correct a few points you make about the CD longevity issue. </p>
<p>I have closely followed the recording indudstry and its processes for nearly 5 decades. I was given the gift of my first opening gramophone at age six, so passionate that I was. The degrading or the &#8216;bronzing&#8217; as it was termed of a very small number of CDs released at one period was caused by some out sourcing by major companies to small plants. (To some, here &#8211; do not confuse this problem &#8216;if you have some of those genuine &#8216;gold&#8217; colored CD discs in your collection from some companies)  In just one known classic instance the &#8216;bronzing from the silver&#8217; problem  was traced back to a company working not to laid down specification-instead of following through the normal CD processes &#8211; short cut and applied a similar looking, but entirely different coating to the label area surface. It degraded by oxidation, and &#8216;fractured&#8217; allowing the laser beam to see &#8216;nothing&#8217;. Then there were also cases of air bubbles, traced in the finished product. It affected the released product of a few companies who had sub-let some of their work.. If a CD is thought faulty, hold the playing side up over the top of a light in a darkened room. If you see &#8216;starlight twinkles&#8217; coming through the label side&#8230;possible trouble the CD player&#8217;s error mechanism cannot cope. </p>
<p>Since we are all into opera here, a word of special warning worth taking heed of;<br />
Over the years the record companies took great trouble to present &#8216;de-luxe&#8217; looking presentations. You can open the plastic multi disc CD boxes holding the actual CDs and find &#8216;cushions of sponge poly foam&#8217; as well to protect them, packed.<br />
GET THIS &#8220;SHIT&#8221; OUT OF THE BOXES NOW -if you want them to keep for many more years. It denatures over time. (A changing of its original color is a sure sign &#8211; usually from silvery white all the way to a sticky chocolate brown). It shrinks, goes &#8216;sticky to the touch&#8217; in some cases and if left, can ADHERE to the CDs -everything from leaving a slight &#8216;print&#8217; to ripping and damaging the label . If you have that &#8216;hand print type mark&#8217; situation left on the label, leave well enough alone. I know of no safe CD solvent to remove it &#8230;.short of ruining the CD.</p>
<p>As for also worrying about the clutter of DVDs from collecting one day. already there are at least two new patented copyrights for very advanced forms of Blu-Ray type discs. One has the potential of at least 6 times the storage capacity of an existing (50mb) Blu Ray &#8211; that of a figure of 300mb.</p>
<p>As for scratching, just look at how &#8216;some clowns&#8217; handle CDs and then &#8216;bang&#8217; them into players??<br />
I may have at least 7000 but I know of not one, that has a mark or scratch. And it would show up&#8230;I examine every one even for a speck of dust , before it enters a player? Broken &#8216;center sprockets&#8217; holding a CD in its case, if found,; the CDs are immediately given a new case.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-1/#comment-106237</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lindoro Almaviva: Why not? Surely they have plenty of &#039;spare cracked nuts&#039; available for the cocktail, being imported from somewhere, for such a promotion? And to think this is -I assume -a top social occasion for glitterati wannabees.. What&#039;s the World coming to?
If not, the place shroud be called Le Herring Rouge.</description>
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If not, the place shroud be called Le Herring Rouge.</p>
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		<title>By: lorenzo.venezia</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-2/#comment-106223</link>
		<dc:creator>lorenzo.venezia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VIRTUAL OPERA THEATER

Welcome to Virtual Opera Theater, your digital opera source. You dream it, we deliver it.

[Disclaimer: the virtual version will be recreated using sampling technology. Our sampling technology is the most sophisticated yet offered commercially, including aural ambience of selected theatres. Where artists have multiple performances in our data base, the sampling with be more comprehensive. Your final price will reflect processing time and depends on the complexity of your request.]

Please enter the name of the opera:

[Once the name of the opera is entered, a list of the roles appears]

Please enter the name of the singer you wish in the Role Window and press select.

[After the singers are selected, another window appears:]

Please enter a conductor:

Once you have chosen your conductor you can select either Opera House or Orchestra.

[If you select by Opera House, you get their chorus. If you select an orchestra you must also select a chorus.]

The audio-only component ends here. 

If you wish a DVD, please select continue.

Please select a stage director.

Once the Director is selected, you may opt for the director&#039;s choice of sets and costumes, or select your own designers. 

If you wish to select your own set and costume designers, press continue.

[In February this tree will go deeper, extending to make up and wigs]

When you have specified your virtual opera, press the CREATE button.

Please wait. Do not navigate away from this window while the processing is completed. 

Your  virtual opera is complete. Select CONTINUE for delivery options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VIRTUAL OPERA THEATER</p>
<p>Welcome to Virtual Opera Theater, your digital opera source. You dream it, we deliver it.</p>
<p>[Disclaimer: the virtual version will be recreated using sampling technology. Our sampling technology is the most sophisticated yet offered commercially, including aural ambience of selected theatres. Where artists have multiple performances in our data base, the sampling with be more comprehensive. Your final price will reflect processing time and depends on the complexity of your request.]</p>
<p>Please enter the name of the opera:</p>
<p>[Once the name of the opera is entered, a list of the roles appears]</p>
<p>Please enter the name of the singer you wish in the Role Window and press select.</p>
<p>[After the singers are selected, another window appears:]</p>
<p>Please enter a conductor:</p>
<p>Once you have chosen your conductor you can select either Opera House or Orchestra.</p>
<p>[If you select by Opera House, you get their chorus. If you select an orchestra you must also select a chorus.]</p>
<p>The audio-only component ends here. </p>
<p>If you wish a DVD, please select continue.</p>
<p>Please select a stage director.</p>
<p>Once the Director is selected, you may opt for the director&#8217;s choice of sets and costumes, or select your own designers. </p>
<p>If you wish to select your own set and costume designers, press continue.</p>
<p>[In February this tree will go deeper, extending to make up and wigs]</p>
<p>When you have specified your virtual opera, press the CREATE button.</p>
<p>Please wait. Do not navigate away from this window while the processing is completed. </p>
<p>Your  virtual opera is complete. Select CONTINUE for delivery options.</p>
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		<title>By: Baltsamic Vinaigrette</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-1/#comment-106221</link>
		<dc:creator>Baltsamic Vinaigrette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s generally 50 years for performers as far as Europe goes, and that&#039;s from the date of initial recording or broadcast/ availability; but for authors (which includes music producers and composers) copyright subsists for 70 years following their death.  EU member states may, however, extend these time limits.

You can expect ageing pop stars and TV actors to turn up in the newspapers on occasion, pushing for an extension to performance protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s generally 50 years for performers as far as Europe goes, and that&#8217;s from the date of initial recording or broadcast/ availability; but for authors (which includes music producers and composers) copyright subsists for 70 years following their death.  EU member states may, however, extend these time limits.</p>
<p>You can expect ageing pop stars and TV actors to turn up in the newspapers on occasion, pushing for an extension to performance protection.</p>
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		<title>By: CruzSF</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-2/#comment-106219</link>
		<dc:creator>CruzSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The album concept is already dying and the increasing acceptance of electronic distribution will only hasten its demise, at least as we have understood “albums” for the last 60-70 years. Classical music artists are already releasing short works via iTunes (e.g., Janine Jansen playing Bach’s Sonata for Violin and Harpsichord; Adès’s Violin Concerto) before the recordings are made available as albums. Sometimes, the recordings are never released as a compact disc but remain available exclusively as digital downloads. Consumers will retain the ability to “burn” their purchases to whatever tangible, portable medium replaces the CD. They will also be able to backup or archive their music on their own storage device like a hard drive.

Recital discs featuring full orchestral accompaniment will probably remain cost-prohibitive for a recording of just a handful of arias. If artists or labels go to the trouble and expense of engaging an orchestra, they will probably want to make the most of the event by recording as many arias as possible in the time allotted. But I imagine that singers who record with just a pianist, a quartet, or a chamber orchestra will be able to get their recordings into (onto?) the online stores. For them, it might make sense to keep up public interest by releasing one aria or three at a time. Such a release schedule could also make recording worthwhile between flights as they jet from country to country for in-person performances. 

Digital downloads will enable listeners to create more flexible music collections, as it is becoming the case already. People will be able to buy just the tracks they like, enabling them to assemble operas featuring their favorite singers singing their favorite versions of the works. Like “Sempre Libera” from the Callas Lisbon Traviata but the “Ah, non più” from the 1955 Live La Scala recording? iTunes (or its equivalent) will be able to blend them together into one seamless listening experience. 

Not only do I think that labels will offer this ability someday, I think they will HAVE to offer this or something like it to stay competitive. Software they don’t control already allows listeners to mix multiple songs into one track. To collect some of the money out there now going to others (or to no one), they will have to offer valued-added features. Like the old pirates and rumored tapes of notorious productions that have come out into the open for profit, labels will ultimately have to learn to get along to keep the interest of opera fans willing to pay. Eventually, consumers will be able to combine performances from artists who had recorded exclusively for different labels, creating their own individual dream casts. Before that day arrives, the ability to have a singer duet with herself in different roles from the same opera will become a reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The album concept is already dying and the increasing acceptance of electronic distribution will only hasten its demise, at least as we have understood “albums” for the last 60-70 years. Classical music artists are already releasing short works via iTunes (e.g., Janine Jansen playing Bach’s Sonata for Violin and Harpsichord; Adès’s Violin Concerto) before the recordings are made available as albums. Sometimes, the recordings are never released as a compact disc but remain available exclusively as digital downloads. Consumers will retain the ability to “burn” their purchases to whatever tangible, portable medium replaces the CD. They will also be able to backup or archive their music on their own storage device like a hard drive.</p>
<p>Recital discs featuring full orchestral accompaniment will probably remain cost-prohibitive for a recording of just a handful of arias. If artists or labels go to the trouble and expense of engaging an orchestra, they will probably want to make the most of the event by recording as many arias as possible in the time allotted. But I imagine that singers who record with just a pianist, a quartet, or a chamber orchestra will be able to get their recordings into (onto?) the online stores. For them, it might make sense to keep up public interest by releasing one aria or three at a time. Such a release schedule could also make recording worthwhile between flights as they jet from country to country for in-person performances. </p>
<p>Digital downloads will enable listeners to create more flexible music collections, as it is becoming the case already. People will be able to buy just the tracks they like, enabling them to assemble operas featuring their favorite singers singing their favorite versions of the works. Like “Sempre Libera” from the Callas Lisbon Traviata but the “Ah, non più” from the 1955 Live La Scala recording? iTunes (or its equivalent) will be able to blend them together into one seamless listening experience. </p>
<p>Not only do I think that labels will offer this ability someday, I think they will HAVE to offer this or something like it to stay competitive. Software they don’t control already allows listeners to mix multiple songs into one track. To collect some of the money out there now going to others (or to no one), they will have to offer valued-added features. Like the old pirates and rumored tapes of notorious productions that have come out into the open for profit, labels will ultimately have to learn to get along to keep the interest of opera fans willing to pay. Eventually, consumers will be able to combine performances from artists who had recorded exclusively for different labels, creating their own individual dream casts. Before that day arrives, the ability to have a singer duet with herself in different roles from the same opera will become a reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindoro Almaviva</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-1/#comment-106186</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindoro Almaviva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that there will be more self funded projects along with studio releases (like the Bartoli) of rare material, historically important discoveries or important niche projects that will enhance their reputation based on some perceived selflessness to loose money for the art. 

I know of at least 2 singers who got the funding for their recordings, hired the orchestras and made it happen: Ana maria Martinez Naxos aria recital and Robin Follman&#039;s verismo recording. Now, while these are rare, I believe that in the future we might have these kind of sponsored recordings. (Coca Cola presents Elisabeth Alagna)

I think also that the recording industry has something to learn from the DVD industry. Live recordings of specific casts, released digitally on the Opera house&#039;s label. I believe that just as the Met was leading the way with the HD-casts, their association with Real Player and their distribution of old broadcasts on their service will keep some of the audio recordings going.

I believe that in the future, an successful opera company will hire a great cast and record the performances, then distribute them digitally on their website, iTunes and other outlets at reduced prices. Information on operas and librettos is readily available on the web, so there will be a day when booklets will disappear all together because other people have already done the research and published on the web. 

I believe that the DVD will see the same over saturation that the CD saw. There will be a time when people will think: &lt;i&gt;Do I really need anothet DVD of Rosenkavalier when I have Fleming, Stemme, Schwartzkopf, and God knows who else already in my lybrary taking up precious space?&lt;/i&gt; 

Even the DVD will see the end of the road and as memory gets cheaper and smaller, companies will find a way to not release stuff in costly DVDs when they can be hosted in servers for people to download into their 20T memory cards. 

&lt;i&gt;THEN ONE DAY……your computer hard drive collapses…&lt;/i&gt;

While there is always the danger of that, CDs were never the solution that came down from heaven. Yes, they are stable, but they are prone to scratches and malfunctions just like any hardware. Does anyone remember a couple of years ago how Nuova era CD were malfunctioning left and right due to bronzing? Also, I am sure I am not the only one who bought a copy of &lt;i&gt;The Art of Beverly Sills Vol. 1&lt;/i&gt; who saw with horror how the paint in the printing on top of the CD peeled off pretty much rendering the CD (now impossibly out of print) unplayable. hgard drives are more and more stable and companies are looking for ways to ensure that information is kept safe, even digitally. Lastly, as problems arise, consumers will challenge company policies and the successful ones (or the ones who have a clear understanding of customer service) will find ways to ensure that a customer does not loose digital information that they bought from them due to a hardware malfunction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that there will be more self funded projects along with studio releases (like the Bartoli) of rare material, historically important discoveries or important niche projects that will enhance their reputation based on some perceived selflessness to loose money for the art. </p>
<p>I know of at least 2 singers who got the funding for their recordings, hired the orchestras and made it happen: Ana maria Martinez Naxos aria recital and Robin Follman&#8217;s verismo recording. Now, while these are rare, I believe that in the future we might have these kind of sponsored recordings. (Coca Cola presents Elisabeth Alagna)</p>
<p>I think also that the recording industry has something to learn from the DVD industry. Live recordings of specific casts, released digitally on the Opera house&#8217;s label. I believe that just as the Met was leading the way with the HD-casts, their association with Real Player and their distribution of old broadcasts on their service will keep some of the audio recordings going.</p>
<p>I believe that in the future, an successful opera company will hire a great cast and record the performances, then distribute them digitally on their website, iTunes and other outlets at reduced prices. Information on operas and librettos is readily available on the web, so there will be a day when booklets will disappear all together because other people have already done the research and published on the web. </p>
<p>I believe that the DVD will see the same over saturation that the CD saw. There will be a time when people will think: <i>Do I really need anothet DVD of Rosenkavalier when I have Fleming, Stemme, Schwartzkopf, and God knows who else already in my lybrary taking up precious space?</i> </p>
<p>Even the DVD will see the end of the road and as memory gets cheaper and smaller, companies will find a way to not release stuff in costly DVDs when they can be hosted in servers for people to download into their 20T memory cards. </p>
<p><i>THEN ONE DAY……your computer hard drive collapses…</i></p>
<p>While there is always the danger of that, CDs were never the solution that came down from heaven. Yes, they are stable, but they are prone to scratches and malfunctions just like any hardware. Does anyone remember a couple of years ago how Nuova era CD were malfunctioning left and right due to bronzing? Also, I am sure I am not the only one who bought a copy of <i>The Art of Beverly Sills Vol. 1</i> who saw with horror how the paint in the printing on top of the CD peeled off pretty much rendering the CD (now impossibly out of print) unplayable. hgard drives are more and more stable and companies are looking for ways to ensure that information is kept safe, even digitally. Lastly, as problems arise, consumers will challenge company policies and the successful ones (or the ones who have a clear understanding of customer service) will find ways to ensure that a customer does not loose digital information that they bought from them due to a hardware malfunction.</p>
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		<title>By: CruzSF</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-1/#comment-106184</link>
		<dc:creator>CruzSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-(</description>
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		<title>By: Lindoro Almaviva</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-1/#comment-106183</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindoro Almaviva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is called a Castratini, it will have the skewer (a short one) but no olives.</description>
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		<title>By: DottoreMalatesta</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/15/future-shock-2/comment-page-1/#comment-106179</link>
		<dc:creator>DottoreMalatesta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Double major on Vocal Performance and Voice Teaching :)

Your concerns are very realistic, Jay. If you could only imagine the amount of divos and divas at College convinced they&#039;re the next (insert celebrated singer name here) and while most of them do have promising and easy instruments, they&#039;re not very intelligent which basically makes things like a 20 years old baritone launch into &quot;Per me giunto&quot; and &quot;Di provenza&quot; when he should be basically singing Handel and Mozart. Result? He&#039;s 20 and sounds like 60 years old man. This is the common reality in music colleges, unfortunately. 

A couple of months ago, I was singing for Caballé on her masterclasses in Spain and everyone there was under 33, but many of them, and an alarming degree of &quot;many&quot; already manifested signs of aging on the voice: wobble, lack of ringing, wild register breaks...

But I don&#039;t loose hope either on my potential or in the opera system. While I&#039;ll probably never make it to La Scala or to the Met (unless they need someone to hand the singers water bottles :P) I know that time will do its work (I&#039;m only 25) and that if I keep working and being careful I can in a few years enjoy a nice career! Caballé seemed to think the same. About the opera system, I think it will reach a point on which the opera houses will no longer have young singers anxious for stardom burning themselves before the time comes because, hopefully, people will become smarter. Maybe by that time, all those singers we keep talking of today and who don&#039;t get the recognition they deserve, will be around to fill the gap while a younger generation learns from the mistakes of the past.</description>
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<p>Your concerns are very realistic, Jay. If you could only imagine the amount of divos and divas at College convinced they&#8217;re the next (insert celebrated singer name here) and while most of them do have promising and easy instruments, they&#8217;re not very intelligent which basically makes things like a 20 years old baritone launch into &#8220;Per me giunto&#8221; and &#8220;Di provenza&#8221; when he should be basically singing Handel and Mozart. Result? He&#8217;s 20 and sounds like 60 years old man. This is the common reality in music colleges, unfortunately. </p>
<p>A couple of months ago, I was singing for Caballé on her masterclasses in Spain and everyone there was under 33, but many of them, and an alarming degree of &#8220;many&#8221; already manifested signs of aging on the voice: wobble, lack of ringing, wild register breaks&#8230;</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t loose hope either on my potential or in the opera system. While I&#8217;ll probably never make it to La Scala or to the Met (unless they need someone to hand the singers water bottles <img src='http://parterre.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> ) I know that time will do its work (I&#8217;m only 25) and that if I keep working and being careful I can in a few years enjoy a nice career! Caballé seemed to think the same. About the opera system, I think it will reach a point on which the opera houses will no longer have young singers anxious for stardom burning themselves before the time comes because, hopefully, people will become smarter. Maybe by that time, all those singers we keep talking of today and who don&#8217;t get the recognition they deserve, will be around to fill the gap while a younger generation learns from the mistakes of the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I hear promising young singers, I wonder how many of them will have a sustainable livelihood.  The singers who specialize in chamber and other smaller-scaled works may have the brightest future.  

There may still be demand two decades hence for the next great Aida (if we can ever find her) or Tristan (wherever he may be). But I look at opera audiences and mostly see the Medicare generation and a few gay boys, but not enough of an audience in between.  So I hope today&#039;s young music students are realistic enough to have double majors.

With the decreasing attention span and desire for instant gratification amongst youth, in 20 years classical music companies may be tweeting entire operas.</description>
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<p>There may still be demand two decades hence for the next great Aida (if we can ever find her) or Tristan (wherever he may be). But I look at opera audiences and mostly see the Medicare generation and a few gay boys, but not enough of an audience in between.  So I hope today&#8217;s young music students are realistic enough to have double majors.</p>
<p>With the decreasing attention span and desire for instant gratification amongst youth, in 20 years classical music companies may be tweeting entire operas.</p>
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		<title>By: No Expert</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Expert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably in 2015 the final illegal music download will be made resulting in critical mass and the financial collapse of the entire music industry. Any musician who doesn&#039;t have a perfume line to fall back on will have to settle for work operating a leaf blower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably in 2015 the final illegal music download will be made resulting in critical mass and the financial collapse of the entire music industry. Any musician who doesn&#8217;t have a perfume line to fall back on will have to settle for work operating a leaf blower.</p>
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		<title>By: squirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rd5_9hyWm0</description>
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		<title>By: squirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Computer Based Music?
httpv://video.google.com/videosearch?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=milton%20babbitt&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;sa=N&amp;hl=en&amp;tab=wv#</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Computer Based Music?<br />
httpv://video.google.com/videosearch?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=milton%20babbitt&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;sa=N&amp;hl=en&amp;tab=wv#</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who know if there will even be any new classical music releases by 2029.  

Sad news today:  The Washington Blade and several other gay newspapers shut down, quite unexpectedly.

http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/11/16/a-sad-day-for-lgbt-media-washington-blade-southern-voice-reportedly-shuttered/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who know if there will even be any new classical music releases by 2029.  </p>
<p>Sad news today:  The Washington Blade and several other gay newspapers shut down, quite unexpectedly.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/11/16/a-sad-day-for-lgbt-media-washington-blade-southern-voice-reportedly-shuttered/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/11/16/a-sad-day-for-lgbt-media-washington-blade-southern-voice-reportedly-shuttered/</a></p>
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		<title>By: CruzSF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CruzSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that stupid video shows up 20 years from now, I&#039;m going to shoot my 3DHoloTube.</description>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Le Poisson Rouge Event ....going to serve a new cocktail called Castratini Cocktail?

No doubt, with not one.... but two skewered spare olives. We can&#039;t have a &#039;rigged&#039; cocktail, can we? Should suit the camp presentation: depicting and complimenting the equally campy style of the performer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Le Poisson Rouge Event &#8230;.going to serve a new cocktail called Castratini Cocktail?</p>
<p>No doubt, with not one&#8230;. but two skewered spare olives. We can&#8217;t have a &#8216;rigged&#8217; cocktail, can we? Should suit the camp presentation: depicting and complimenting the equally campy style of the performer.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologise for that last long rant: computer based music.......AH!

Love the &#039;Back to the Future&#039; photo with  Bartolo. Brings back memories of tht old TV show &#039;The Time Tunnel&#039; where creatures and things of the past escaped from the portal into the control laboratory. Shit! The escapee just got hold of Bartoli and is going to give her her just punishment: for all that pretentious Baroque twaddle she has been promoting, of late. She deserves a good wacking.
&quot;Scream Cecilia - as you always do, it won&#039;t do you no good, now!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologise for that last long rant: computer based music&#8230;&#8230;.AH!</p>
<p>Love the &#8216;Back to the Future&#8217; photo with  Bartolo. Brings back memories of tht old TV show &#8216;The Time Tunnel&#8217; where creatures and things of the past escaped from the portal into the control laboratory. Shit! The escapee just got hold of Bartoli and is going to give her her just punishment: for all that pretentious Baroque twaddle she has been promoting, of late. She deserves a good wacking.<br />
&#8220;Scream Cecilia &#8211; as you always do, it won&#8217;t do you no good, now!&#8221;</p>
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