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	<description>where opera is king and you, the readers, are queens</description>
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		<title>Baltsamic Vinaigrette commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baltsamic Vinaigrette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, she&#039;s saying that there some instruments are suited to symphonies, and others better suited to opera.  In a symphony you can use what you like, but for singers you need other considerations.  Most voices get smaller as they climb higher. But transposition should not be necessary if the correct instrumentation is used.  Otherwise we are moving away from what the composer created, and intended us to hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, she&#8217;s saying that there some instruments are suited to symphonies, and others better suited to opera.  In a symphony you can use what you like, but for singers you need other considerations.  Most voices get smaller as they climb higher. But transposition should not be necessary if the correct instrumentation is used.  Otherwise we are moving away from what the composer created, and intended us to hear.</p>
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		<title>MontyNostry commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>MontyNostry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Cocky. She sounds as though she has been tutored in that kind of discourse. It&#039;s heightened self-help speak, almost. But, as you say, you have to love her.

One always gets the feeling -- from her singing too -- that there is a woman of warmth and humour there. With her diva defences down, I bet she was lots of fun. I&#039;ll never forget someone saying to me once that her singing sounded like she was good in bed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Cocky. She sounds as though she has been tutored in that kind of discourse. It&#8217;s heightened self-help speak, almost. But, as you say, you have to love her.</p>
<p>One always gets the feeling &#8212; from her singing too &#8212; that there is a woman of warmth and humour there. With her diva defences down, I bet she was lots of fun. I&#8217;ll never forget someone saying to me once that her singing sounded like she was good in bed!</p>
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		<title>Cocky Kurwenal commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cocky Kurwenal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed that with Jones, German seems to have become her first language, so much so that when she speaks in English these days you&#039;re sitting there waiting for the verb until she finally throws it in at the end of the sentence and you suddenly realise what she&#039;s on about.  With Sutherland, yes, maybe she wasn&#039;t very eloquent.  But with Price, I&#039;m not sure - is my impression that she actually appeared less in Europe, other than the UK, than many other singers of her stature correct?  I have this idea that her career was fairly US-centric, so I&#039;m not sure why her English has ended up so mangled.  I love the grandiosity of it though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed that with Jones, German seems to have become her first language, so much so that when she speaks in English these days you&#8217;re sitting there waiting for the verb until she finally throws it in at the end of the sentence and you suddenly realise what she&#8217;s on about.  With Sutherland, yes, maybe she wasn&#8217;t very eloquent.  But with Price, I&#8217;m not sure &#8211; is my impression that she actually appeared less in Europe, other than the UK, than many other singers of her stature correct?  I have this idea that her career was fairly US-centric, so I&#8217;m not sure why her English has ended up so mangled.  I love the grandiosity of it though.</p>
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		<title>MontyNostry commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>MontyNostry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That circuitous, overambitious verbal style of Leontyne&#039;s style is nothing if not distinctive. Maybe part of it comes from functioning in other languages so much in the course of her work. It&#039;s as if she is presenting herself rather than quite being herself, but -- because it&#039;s her -- it&#039;s rather adorable. On someone else it could be unbearably pretentious. She somehow retains (in a good sense) an essential simplicity 

With Jones, I think the problems arise from the fact that German became her de facto first language. And, of course, any kind of self doubt just isn&#039;t in her make-up, so she doesn&#039;t really care how odd she sounds. 

As for Joanie, maybe she just wasn&#039;t very eloquent -- or even particularly confident -- when speaking formally, but I bet she was great value round a dinner table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That circuitous, overambitious verbal style of Leontyne&#8217;s style is nothing if not distinctive. Maybe part of it comes from functioning in other languages so much in the course of her work. It&#8217;s as if she is presenting herself rather than quite being herself, but &#8212; because it&#8217;s her &#8212; it&#8217;s rather adorable. On someone else it could be unbearably pretentious. She somehow retains (in a good sense) an essential simplicity </p>
<p>With Jones, I think the problems arise from the fact that German became her de facto first language. And, of course, any kind of self doubt just isn&#8217;t in her make-up, so she doesn&#8217;t really care how odd she sounds. </p>
<p>As for Joanie, maybe she just wasn&#8217;t very eloquent &#8212; or even particularly confident &#8212; when speaking formally, but I bet she was great value round a dinner table.</p>
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		<title>Cocky Kurwenal commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cocky Kurwenal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Price&#039;s interview is unusually interesting and in depth for a Diva, but she really seems to struggle with her English doesn&#039;t she?  It&#039;s a tendency I&#039;ve noticed with Sutherland and Jones too - going in for an awful lot of complex constructions that they ultimately don&#039;t quite seem to be able to complete!

Price is truly an inspiration here though - that self-belief must have helped her a hell of a lot in her early days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Price&#8217;s interview is unusually interesting and in depth for a Diva, but she really seems to struggle with her English doesn&#8217;t she?  It&#8217;s a tendency I&#8217;ve noticed with Sutherland and Jones too &#8211; going in for an awful lot of complex constructions that they ultimately don&#8217;t quite seem to be able to complete!</p>
<p>Price is truly an inspiration here though &#8211; that self-belief must have helped her a hell of a lot in her early days.</p>
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		<title>Ruxton commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the Callas and la Divina clips- thank you la Cieca.</description>
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		<title>MontyNostry commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>MontyNostry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant les sourcils de la belle Leontyne.</description>
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		<title>Camille commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is discussing the need for the lowering of the diapason -- she probably wants it set to a tuning of 432 -- which she maintains is destroying larger voices -- well, that&#039;s been pretty much systematically done now, so this must date back.
She speaks of Strauss and the nervous effect upon her, etc., but I did not catch all that, will have to listen again. 


Best, Javier de los Angeles, to get someone who speaks Nederlands and have them translate that which is one the screen.  When I have more time I will try to listen again as I am interested.  

Oh, and she did go after this partially, I am sure, to compensate for those leaning tower of Pisa high notes, but Verdi Himself, did do a lot of lobbying for lowering the diapason, back in the day, but no results.

Now it&#039;s too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is discussing the need for the lowering of the diapason &#8212; she probably wants it set to a tuning of 432 &#8212; which she maintains is destroying larger voices &#8212; well, that&#8217;s been pretty much systematically done now, so this must date back.<br />
She speaks of Strauss and the nervous effect upon her, etc., but I did not catch all that, will have to listen again. </p>
<p>Best, Javier de los Angeles, to get someone who speaks Nederlands and have them translate that which is one the screen.  When I have more time I will try to listen again as I am interested.  </p>
<p>Oh, and she did go after this partially, I am sure, to compensate for those leaning tower of Pisa high notes, but Verdi Himself, did do a lot of lobbying for lowering the diapason, back in the day, but no results.</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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		<title>Camille commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh dear, to whom do you refer regarding the eyebrows?  I&#039;ve just now seen the Callas video and thought her eyebrows far more enticing.
R.S.V.P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh dear, to whom do you refer regarding the eyebrows?  I&#8217;ve just now seen the Callas video and thought her eyebrows far more enticing.<br />
R.S.V.P.</p>
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		<title>messa di voce commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>messa di voce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She just barely avoids that Lyndon LaRouche tuning A pitch story that obsessed her for a couple of years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She just barely avoids that Lyndon LaRouche tuning A pitch story that obsessed her for a couple of years.</p>
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		<title>Alto commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She smiled and said Good Afternoon.</description>
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		<title>javier commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>javier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it? I figured someone around here would be able to tell me exactly what she&#039;s saying. You guys always seem like the know-it-alls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it? I figured someone around here would be able to tell me exactly what she&#8217;s saying. You guys always seem like the know-it-alls.</p>
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		<title>MontyNostry commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>MontyNostry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s something about transpositions, challenging orchestrations (like Strauss&#039;s) and the rise of the little, bland voices.

Another real diva.</description>
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<p>Another real diva.</p>
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		<title>javier commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>javier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know what the heck Tebaldi is saying?

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmTSJszpjvk</description>
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		<title>messa di voce commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>messa di voce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The luxury of listening to my own sound&quot;! We love you, Lee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The luxury of listening to my own sound&#8221;! We love you, Lee!</p>
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		<title>MontyNostry commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>MontyNostry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Camille I know in real life is a man. Like Saint-Saëns. You could have said &quot;Quelle belle tête&quot; and then we would all have been happy. Including The Big L.

Would that I could have heard her in Aida -- or anything in the flesh. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Camille I know in real life is a man. Like Saint-Saëns. You could have said &#8220;Quelle belle tête&#8221; and then we would all have been happy. Including The Big L.</p>
<p>Would that I could have heard her in Aida &#8212; or anything in the flesh. <img src='http://parterre.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Harry commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leontyne Price still reminds us , just how good we once had it, with her and others around.....&#039;the era of real stars&#039;.  Not the pale tarted up imitations they present today, in most cases. Where everything they do off the stage, and in their life .... is the main claim to fame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leontyne Price still reminds us , just how good we once had it, with her and others around&#8230;..&#8217;the era of real stars&#8217;.  Not the pale tarted up imitations they present today, in most cases. Where everything they do off the stage, and in their life &#8230;. is the main claim to fame.</p>
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		<title>Harry commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Noel Dahling; it may not be the same but one night I slipped over on a skating rink and who should hug and pick me up but the original Leatherman of the Village People! I felt like throwing myself down again, for a repeat performance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Noel Dahling; it may not be the same but one night I slipped over on a skating rink and who should hug and pick me up but the original Leatherman of the Village People! I felt like throwing myself down again, for a repeat performance!</p>
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		<title>Cassandra commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The burden and the glory.&quot;

Oh my god, how much do I love this woman?</description>
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<p>Oh my god, how much do I love this woman?</p>
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		<title>Vox commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for that, La Cieca.  I can&#039;t name my second favorite singer - that starts a whole list.  But my favorite - always Leontyne.  Always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for that, La Cieca.  I can&#8217;t name my second favorite singer &#8211; that starts a whole list.  But my favorite &#8211; always Leontyne.  Always.</p>
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