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		<title>By: operaguy</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/04/love-without-music/comment-page-5/#comment-104989</link>
		<dc:creator>operaguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Javier said: &quot;... okay, but all of the really interesting live recordings are disappointing because a) the sound is terrible ...

Absolute rubbish!!  Since you don&#039;t particuarly like Callas, I can understand how you wouldn&#039;t keep up on things, but some of the &quot;really interesting&quot; Callas performances are starting to come out in good sound.  First, the Berlin Lucia has been around in very good sound for at least twenty years.   Myto&#039;s issues in the last year of 2 of her Norma&#039;s from 1955 are in very good sound, considering the vintage.  Her Violetta from Covent Garden with Valletti and Zanasi (my personal favorite among her Traviata performances) was issued in two very good sounding remasters in the last year, one on Myto and one on IDIS (I prefer the latter).  Her 2nd Mexico Aida has been issued by Myto in fairly good sound (w. Del Monaco, Taddei and Dominguez).  The Lisbon Traviata was also issued within the last year in excellent sound (from Radio Lisbon&#039;s master tapes) on Myto.  I have just been listening to the new Myto issue of her Mexico Rigoletto and, to my ear, Myto has used an excellent sounding master (radio announcements before and after each act lead me to believe they have used the broadcast archive materials) for most of the performance.  From my listening, I would guess the master they used was incomplete, so they plugged in the existing lesser-sounding material to fill the gaps - but the majority of it is in beautiful, clear sound (altthough the prompter was in excellent voice, and Di Stefano decidely was not). 

So you comment, though it may have been mostly true a few years ago, has been overtaken by events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Javier said: &#8220;&#8230; okay, but all of the really interesting live recordings are disappointing because a) the sound is terrible &#8230;</p>
<p>Absolute rubbish!!  Since you don&#8217;t particuarly like Callas, I can understand how you wouldn&#8217;t keep up on things, but some of the &#8220;really interesting&#8221; Callas performances are starting to come out in good sound.  First, the Berlin Lucia has been around in very good sound for at least twenty years.   Myto&#8217;s issues in the last year of 2 of her Norma&#8217;s from 1955 are in very good sound, considering the vintage.  Her Violetta from Covent Garden with Valletti and Zanasi (my personal favorite among her Traviata performances) was issued in two very good sounding remasters in the last year, one on Myto and one on IDIS (I prefer the latter).  Her 2nd Mexico Aida has been issued by Myto in fairly good sound (w. Del Monaco, Taddei and Dominguez).  The Lisbon Traviata was also issued within the last year in excellent sound (from Radio Lisbon&#8217;s master tapes) on Myto.  I have just been listening to the new Myto issue of her Mexico Rigoletto and, to my ear, Myto has used an excellent sounding master (radio announcements before and after each act lead me to believe they have used the broadcast archive materials) for most of the performance.  From my listening, I would guess the master they used was incomplete, so they plugged in the existing lesser-sounding material to fill the gaps &#8211; but the majority of it is in beautiful, clear sound (altthough the prompter was in excellent voice, and Di Stefano decidely was not). </p>
<p>So you comment, though it may have been mostly true a few years ago, has been overtaken by events.</p>
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		<title>By: Alto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which could simply mean that theater people are, on average, less pretentious?

As for Di Donato, I was in her presence half an hour ago, and I will hear nothing against her. Her closing number at the NYCO gala was, as usual, magisterial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which could simply mean that theater people are, on average, less pretentious?</p>
<p>As for Di Donato, I was in her presence half an hour ago, and I will hear nothing against her. Her closing number at the NYCO gala was, as usual, magisterial.</p>
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		<title>By: No Expert</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/04/love-without-music/comment-page-5/#comment-104928</link>
		<dc:creator>No Expert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny how words can evoke different images. When I hear &quot;repertoire&quot; I think of music when I hear &quot;repertory&quot; I think of theater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how words can evoke different images. When I hear &#8220;repertoire&#8221; I think of music when I hear &#8220;repertory&#8221; I think of theater.</p>
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		<title>By: ellerveira</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellerveira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cocky: are you saying DiDonato&#039;s singing would be better if she behaved in a &quot;high and mighty&quot; way with her public? Or became a &quot;diva&quot;? Or was arrogant and unreasonable? I don&#039;t quite see the connection. How is an arrogant singer&#039;s singing different from that of a non-arrogant singer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cocky: are you saying DiDonato&#8217;s singing would be better if she behaved in a &#8220;high and mighty&#8221; way with her public? Or became a &#8220;diva&#8221;? Or was arrogant and unreasonable? I don&#8217;t quite see the connection. How is an arrogant singer&#8217;s singing different from that of a non-arrogant singer?</p>
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		<title>By: CruzSF</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/04/love-without-music/comment-page-5/#comment-104921</link>
		<dc:creator>CruzSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m emphatic because it seemed that you were taking Sanford to task for a word that I&#039;ve heard used much more frequently in the US than &quot;repertory,&quot; and I think that&#039;s unfair. 

But you&#039;re right that it&#039;s a small point, and it&#039;s not my fight to fight, so I&#039;ll let it go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m emphatic because it seemed that you were taking Sanford to task for a word that I&#8217;ve heard used much more frequently in the US than &#8220;repertory,&#8221; and I think that&#8217;s unfair. </p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right that it&#8217;s a small point, and it&#8217;s not my fight to fight, so I&#8217;ll let it go.</p>
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		<title>By: Alto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t understand your comment/complaint about repertoire since it has a long-accepted use in English.&quot;

By whom? Many say &quot;serviette&quot; for napkin as well.

I don&#039;t understand your not understanding. The only possible reason to introduce a foreign form into cultivated English discourse is because the English word does not suffice. How is REPERTORY less adequate than the pretentious REPERTOIRE?

Ruxton, I don&#039;t understand your point at all. How does the fact that a word comes from French and Latin -- especially when it does so no more than the normal English word -- give it predominance for English usage?

I raised this only as a small point in the midst of other small points being raised. But the defense of the nonsensical exotic usage seems to be quite emphatic. Odd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t understand your comment/complaint about repertoire since it has a long-accepted use in English.&#8221;</p>
<p>By whom? Many say &#8220;serviette&#8221; for napkin as well.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand your not understanding. The only possible reason to introduce a foreign form into cultivated English discourse is because the English word does not suffice. How is REPERTORY less adequate than the pretentious REPERTOIRE?</p>
<p>Ruxton, I don&#8217;t understand your point at all. How does the fact that a word comes from French and Latin &#8212; especially when it does so no more than the normal English word &#8212; give it predominance for English usage?</p>
<p>I raised this only as a small point in the midst of other small points being raised. But the defense of the nonsensical exotic usage seems to be quite emphatic. Odd.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruxton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Repertoire&quot; derived Fr/Latin has been an accepted English word longer than any of us have been alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Repertoire&#8221; derived Fr/Latin has been an accepted English word longer than any of us have been alive.</p>
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		<title>By: CruzSF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CruzSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alto, fair enough. 

I don&#039;t understand your comment/complaint about repertoire since it has a long-accepted use in English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alto, fair enough. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand your comment/complaint about repertoire since it has a long-accepted use in English.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruxton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still can&#039;t help chuckling over the posts that &quot;wonder&quot; about whether they would like to have been friends with La Divina or not.
No matter how she came across in old interviews, we know she was highly intelligent and didn&#039;t suffer fools gladly. One can only wonder if she had lived next door to our posters, how many of them would have actually had her drop by for a cup of sugar? :)...might have been a long wait :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still can&#8217;t help chuckling over the posts that &#8220;wonder&#8221; about whether they would like to have been friends with La Divina or not.<br />
No matter how she came across in old interviews, we know she was highly intelligent and didn&#8217;t suffer fools gladly. One can only wonder if she had lived next door to our posters, how many of them would have actually had her drop by for a cup of sugar? <img src='http://parterre.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230;might have been a long wait <img src='http://parterre.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
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		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alto: Or when people make silly comments about Callas being unsuited to bel canto because they confuse the term &quot;beautiful singing&quot; with &quot;beautiful voice&quot;. All we have to do is listen to Renee to know that a beautiful voice can sometimes have nothing to do with beautiful singing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alto: Or when people make silly comments about Callas being unsuited to bel canto because they confuse the term &#8220;beautiful singing&#8221; with &#8220;beautiful voice&#8221;. All we have to do is listen to Renee to know that a beautiful voice can sometimes have nothing to do with beautiful singing.</p>
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		<title>By: Alto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;She had an imperfect voice but was a marvellous singer.&quot;

BINGO. You are so right. It is a pet peeve of mine that Americans commonly say they study or teach VOICE. This is nonsense. The Yale Music School -- at least when I was there -- claimed only to teach SINGING. (This was part of an old-fashioned usage that also included PIANOFORTE PLAYING, PIPE-ORGAN PLAYING, VIOLONCELLO PLAYING, etc. -- for the obvious reason that you don&#039;t teach PIANO, etc., you teach the PLAYING.)

My admiration for Callas is unbounded, and not for her voice but for her incomparable singing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;She had an imperfect voice but was a marvellous singer.&#8221;</p>
<p>BINGO. You are so right. It is a pet peeve of mine that Americans commonly say they study or teach VOICE. This is nonsense. The Yale Music School &#8212; at least when I was there &#8212; claimed only to teach SINGING. (This was part of an old-fashioned usage that also included PIANOFORTE PLAYING, PIPE-ORGAN PLAYING, VIOLONCELLO PLAYING, etc. &#8212; for the obvious reason that you don&#8217;t teach PIANO, etc., you teach the PLAYING.)</p>
<p>My admiration for Callas is unbounded, and not for her voice but for her incomparable singing.</p>
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		<title>By: Alto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Alto, are you doing enlarging the Vicar’s life cause to the use of great words long-accepted words in English?&quot;

I can&#039;t answer your question until you translate it from whatever language that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Alto, are you doing enlarging the Vicar’s life cause to the use of great words long-accepted words in English?&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t answer your question until you translate it from whatever language that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can / or will only consider a person as &#039;being down to earth&#039;....when you evaluate firstly , rightly or wrongly that they match your own vision of what you personally represent.Phew!!!
It is self reflective assessment compliment to oneself! 

So is it any wonder an opera buff will weight up the 
value of another fan; after being told which singers, they love.

I smile: thinking back, remembering the retorts of some opera fans. Sch as when they might have been asked to a a party and rejected the invitation. Why? The usual rely was &quot;God, I CANNNNNT stand those people , they are all into .........(name of  opera singer)!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can / or will only consider a person as &#8216;being down to earth&#8217;&#8230;.when you evaluate firstly , rightly or wrongly that they match your own vision of what you personally represent.Phew!!!<br />
It is self reflective assessment compliment to oneself! </p>
<p>So is it any wonder an opera buff will weight up the<br />
value of another fan; after being told which singers, they love.</p>
<p>I smile: thinking back, remembering the retorts of some opera fans. Sch as when they might have been asked to a a party and rejected the invitation. Why? The usual rely was &#8220;God, I CANNNNNT stand those people , they are all into &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;(name of  opera singer)!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: CruzSF</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/04/love-without-music/comment-page-4/#comment-104879</link>
		<dc:creator>CruzSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruxton, I think you&#039;re on to something ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruxton, I think you&#8217;re on to something &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/04/love-without-music/comment-page-4/#comment-104868</link>
		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well today&#039;s &quot;down-to-earth&quot; divas are nothing compared to the Golden Age of Down-to-earth Divas in the 40s and 50s. Forget about the performances; everyone was just so darned nice and sincere! Thank goodness I still have my recordings to remind me. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well today&#8217;s &#8220;down-to-earth&#8221; divas are nothing compared to the Golden Age of Down-to-earth Divas in the 40s and 50s. Forget about the performances; everyone was just so darned nice and sincere! Thank goodness I still have my recordings to remind me. <img src='http://parterre.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ruxton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Down to earth&quot;- hehehe now that we&#039;ve run out of nasty, negative things to say about everyone including LA Callas- do we suddenly want them to be &quot;down to earth&quot;? What piffle - what crap!
hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Down to earth&#8221;- hehehe now that we&#8217;ve run out of nasty, negative things to say about everyone including LA Callas- do we suddenly want them to be &#8220;down to earth&#8221;? What piffle &#8211; what crap!<br />
hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Cocky Kurwenal</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/04/love-without-music/comment-page-4/#comment-104854</link>
		<dc:creator>Cocky Kurwenal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do people want their divas to be down to earth?  The whole point is that they&#039;re somehow special, other-wordly.  I don&#039;t want them to screw up their own careers by being complete horrors to work with, but it&#039;s nice to have somebody who comes across as somehow extraordinary.

Maybe that&#039;s why I always come away from DiDonato performances wondering what all the fuss is about - nothing there you can criticise, but equally nothing to cause a stir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do people want their divas to be down to earth?  The whole point is that they&#8217;re somehow special, other-wordly.  I don&#8217;t want them to screw up their own careers by being complete horrors to work with, but it&#8217;s nice to have somebody who comes across as somehow extraordinary.</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s why I always come away from DiDonato performances wondering what all the fuss is about &#8211; nothing there you can criticise, but equally nothing to cause a stir.</p>
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		<title>By: ellerveira</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellerveira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>arepo: I think she would have been fun to know although you might have had to be careful in dealing with her. 

poisonivy: I&#039;d say Joyce DiDonato is &quot;completely down to earth&quot; or else feigns it very very well. Read her blog. Email her. She often will answer, very nicely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>arepo: I think she would have been fun to know although you might have had to be careful in dealing with her. </p>
<p>poisonivy: I&#8217;d say Joyce DiDonato is &#8220;completely down to earth&#8221; or else feigns it very very well. Read her blog. Email her. She often will answer, very nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: arepo</title>
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		<dc:creator>arepo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny!  I would have been best friends with her.  There is something very reachable and girlish about her personality that one might not see at first glance.  She is a most interesting study and a very sad case. 
She got a royal rooking from Onassis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny!  I would have been best friends with her.  There is something very reachable and girlish about her personality that one might not see at first glance.  She is a most interesting study and a very sad case.<br />
She got a royal rooking from Onassis.</p>
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		<title>By: poisonivy</title>
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		<dc:creator>poisonivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I like un-divas. Sopranos who are on top, but completely down to earth.&quot;

Like who? Do you actually know any major singer who is really completely down to earth? Are you always just the salt of the earth? 
I don&#039;t think I would have chosen Callas as a buddy either, but i&#039;d never judge a singer based on his or her personality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I like un-divas. Sopranos who are on top, but completely down to earth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like who? Do you actually know any major singer who is really completely down to earth? Are you always just the salt of the earth?<br />
I don&#8217;t think I would have chosen Callas as a buddy either, but i&#8217;d never judge a singer based on his or her personality.</p>
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		<title>By: Veloce49</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veloce49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BlogAds
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ugh...this site is becoming too commercial for me.
Ciao everyone, I&#039;ll be over at Opera Chic, who has been &quot;scooping&quot; (in the journalist sense) La Cieca for a while anyway.
p.s. the amateur &quot;reviews&quot; suck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BlogAds<br />
Product tie-ins<br />
ugh&#8230;this site is becoming too commercial for me.<br />
Ciao everyone, I&#8217;ll be over at Opera Chic, who has been &#8220;scooping&#8221; (in the journalist sense) La Cieca for a while anyway.<br />
p.s. the amateur &#8220;reviews&#8221; suck</p>
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		<title>By: CruzSF</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>javier,

&lt;i&gt;but all of the really interesting live recordings are disappointing because a) the sound is terrible&lt;/i&gt;

I agree with you that the sound is terrible. When I first became interested in opera, I thought I HAD to like Callas because she&#039;s the epitOme of the Diva, but the recordings from that time can&#039;t compare to today in terms of stereophonic sound and, at least when heard on CDs, roundness, warmth, and fullness. (I&#039;ll not speak of vinyl as I&#039;ve not bought a vinyl recording in 20 years, have not own a record player in 18 years, and own no vinyl records of opera.) Many recordings of Callas sound thin to me. 

BUT, after hearing quite a few singers (in person) seem to show up and sing all the notes unsupported by any acting, I have a greater appreciation of Callas&#039; talent. On the 3 Callas recordings I have -- Lucia, Traviata, and Tosca -- she completely inhabits the roles and sings her heart out. 

&lt;i&gt;and b) her voice just doesn’t do it for me.&lt;/i&gt;
This seems much more reasonable to me. Some singers, revered by many others, just don&#039;t speak to EVERYone. I myself can&#039;t stand to hear Sutherland. We&#039;re all entitled to our personal tastes so there&#039;s no argument, I think, if she just doesn&#039;t do it for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>javier,</p>
<p><i>but all of the really interesting live recordings are disappointing because a) the sound is terrible</i></p>
<p>I agree with you that the sound is terrible. When I first became interested in opera, I thought I HAD to like Callas because she&#8217;s the epitOme of the Diva, but the recordings from that time can&#8217;t compare to today in terms of stereophonic sound and, at least when heard on CDs, roundness, warmth, and fullness. (I&#8217;ll not speak of vinyl as I&#8217;ve not bought a vinyl recording in 20 years, have not own a record player in 18 years, and own no vinyl records of opera.) Many recordings of Callas sound thin to me. </p>
<p>BUT, after hearing quite a few singers (in person) seem to show up and sing all the notes unsupported by any acting, I have a greater appreciation of Callas&#8217; talent. On the 3 Callas recordings I have &#8212; Lucia, Traviata, and Tosca &#8212; she completely inhabits the roles and sings her heart out. </p>
<p><i>and b) her voice just doesn’t do it for me.</i><br />
This seems much more reasonable to me. Some singers, revered by many others, just don&#8217;t speak to EVERYone. I myself can&#8217;t stand to hear Sutherland. We&#8217;re all entitled to our personal tastes so there&#8217;s no argument, I think, if she just doesn&#8217;t do it for you.</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/04/love-without-music/comment-page-3/#comment-104805</link>
		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for Callas&#039;s studio recordings, let&#039;s see:

&lt;i&gt;Madama Butterfly, Aida, Forza del Destino, Lucia, Cavalleria Rusticana, Tosca, Norma...&lt;/i&gt; These are all great, great recordings (except for Gedda&#039;s Pinkerton which I dislike).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Callas&#8217;s studio recordings, let&#8217;s see:</p>
<p><i>Madama Butterfly, Aida, Forza del Destino, Lucia, Cavalleria Rusticana, Tosca, Norma&#8230;</i> These are all great, great recordings (except for Gedda&#8217;s Pinkerton which I dislike).</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/04/love-without-music/comment-page-3/#comment-104803</link>
		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the terms you&#039;re looking for is premature ejaculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the terms you&#8217;re looking for is premature ejaculation.</p>
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		<title>By: javier</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/04/love-without-music/comment-page-3/#comment-104798</link>
		<dc:creator>javier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But listen to her, without the visual?? No thanks.&quot;

That&#039;s exactly it. There aren&#039;t many extant examples of her fine acting abilities, only numerous audio recordings. Some of her studio recordings are...okay, but all of the really interesting live recordings are disappointing because a) the sound is terrible and b) her voice just doesn&#039;t do it for me.

&quot;Javier, I believe there are delaying cremes on the market for help with your shooting problem. After all, it’s impolite to shoot after merely a glance&quot;

Nice impotence joke. My impotence is a constant struggle, but now there&#039;s hope. I&#039;ll ask around about the cream. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But listen to her, without the visual?? No thanks.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly it. There aren&#8217;t many extant examples of her fine acting abilities, only numerous audio recordings. Some of her studio recordings are&#8230;okay, but all of the really interesting live recordings are disappointing because a) the sound is terrible and b) her voice just doesn&#8217;t do it for me.</p>
<p>&#8220;Javier, I believe there are delaying cremes on the market for help with your shooting problem. After all, it’s impolite to shoot after merely a glance&#8221;</p>
<p>Nice impotence joke. My impotence is a constant struggle, but now there&#8217;s hope. I&#8217;ll ask around about the cream. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Javier, I believe there are delaying cremes on the market for help with your shooting problem. After all, it&#039;s impolite to shoot after merely a glance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Javier, I believe there are delaying cremes on the market for help with your shooting problem. After all, it&#8217;s impolite to shoot after merely a glance</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
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		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clita (amni): I was seconding your opinion!</description>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Callas wasn&#039;t someone I would have liked to know personally. 

Actually I think she had a very limited, annoying type personality.

But I don&#039;t see what that has too do with her singing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Callas wasn&#8217;t someone I would have liked to know personally. </p>
<p>Actually I think she had a very limited, annoying type personality.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t see what that has too do with her singing</p>
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		<title>By: javier</title>
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		<dc:creator>javier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always glance and shoot.</description>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/11/04/love-without-music/comment-page-2/#comment-104787</link>
		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too don&#039;t like the term &quot;singing actress&quot; to describe
Callas. True , she had a less than perfect voice
( but please, tell me WHO has a perfect voice??????).
OK, lets say she had a voice with many flaws.

But to me &quot;singing actress&quot; also means someone who&#039;s appeal was primarily visual or dramatic.

To me this is someone with a lot of magnetism and/or great theatrical talent with a less than outstanding
way of singing or rather, using their voice.

An example to me would be Anja Silja. I&#039;ve seen her as Emily Marty, Salome, Marie in Wozzeck, and Leonore. I have quite few recordings and two DVDS. She is not someone I want to listen to CDs of. All I get from that
is a &quot;less than perfect voice&quot; used in a not very memorable way. However to SEE her on the stage is electrifying. Last time I saw her in the Makropoulos   Case at BAM she game a simply amazing performance .

And some of this is captured on her DVDs of Makropoulos
as well as Jenufa. 

But listen to her, without the visual?? No thanks.

She&#039;s what I would call a singing actress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too don&#8217;t like the term &#8220;singing actress&#8221; to describe<br />
Callas. True , she had a less than perfect voice<br />
( but please, tell me WHO has a perfect voice??????).<br />
OK, lets say she had a voice with many flaws.</p>
<p>But to me &#8220;singing actress&#8221; also means someone who&#8217;s appeal was primarily visual or dramatic.</p>
<p>To me this is someone with a lot of magnetism and/or great theatrical talent with a less than outstanding<br />
way of singing or rather, using their voice.</p>
<p>An example to me would be Anja Silja. I&#8217;ve seen her as Emily Marty, Salome, Marie in Wozzeck, and Leonore. I have quite few recordings and two DVDS. She is not someone I want to listen to CDs of. All I get from that<br />
is a &#8220;less than perfect voice&#8221; used in a not very memorable way. However to SEE her on the stage is electrifying. Last time I saw her in the Makropoulos   Case at BAM she game a simply amazing performance .</p>
<p>And some of this is captured on her DVDs of Makropoulos<br />
as well as Jenufa. </p>
<p>But listen to her, without the visual?? No thanks.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s what I would call a singing actress.</p>
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