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		<title>By: zinka</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW  She said the correct pronunciation of her name is GENGER

(Hard G..and then Soft G).


CH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW  She said the correct pronunciation of her name is GENGER</p>
<p>(Hard G..and then Soft G).</p>
<p>CH</p>
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		<title>By: zinka</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Leyla was here in 1972 for a Newark Attila, we had a party for her at Armen Boyajian&#039;s home....(My friend sneaked into another room and put on her mink).....Shortly after, we had a party on New Year&#039;s and there werer still the photos of her all over the walls..(They took down other divas).....Kabaiwanska walked in and exclaimed, &quot;What is this..a SHRINE?&quot;It was so funny....
She came a few years ago to NY to be honored at a Licia Gala,along with Barbieri..and was so appreciative of the reception..flowers,etc.
 I have always considered her one of the most intresting and versatile singers..The scoooooops can be campy...Listen to the finale of the Devereux..Quel SANGUE..or the unintentional &quot;break&quot; in the voice in an ensemble in Saffo by Pacini..
Listen to the &quot;D&#039;amor sull&#039;ali&quot; from the film..or the Jerusalem aria where the word &quot;QUI&quot; is a perfect example of how she could attack with such excitement....
   She has been caled the &quot;Queen of the Pirates&quot;(ossia &quot;The queen of the queens.&quot;
    I was so sad at her recent passing)...
BTW I once made a zillion tapes for the library in Ankara so more of her fellow countrymen (and a few women) could hear her more and more.....
        I will never forget her..Charlie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Leyla was here in 1972 for a Newark Attila, we had a party for her at Armen Boyajian&#8217;s home&#8230;.(My friend sneaked into another room and put on her mink)&#8230;..Shortly after, we had a party on New Year&#8217;s and there werer still the photos of her all over the walls..(They took down other divas)&#8230;..Kabaiwanska walked in and exclaimed, &#8220;What is this..a SHRINE?&#8221;It was so funny&#8230;.<br />
She came a few years ago to NY to be honored at a Licia Gala,along with Barbieri..and was so appreciative of the reception..flowers,etc.<br />
 I have always considered her one of the most intresting and versatile singers..The scoooooops can be campy&#8230;Listen to the finale of the Devereux..Quel SANGUE..or the unintentional &#8220;break&#8221; in the voice in an ensemble in Saffo by Pacini..<br />
Listen to the &#8220;D&#8217;amor sull&#8217;ali&#8221; from the film..or the Jerusalem aria where the word &#8220;QUI&#8221; is a perfect example of how she could attack with such excitement&#8230;.<br />
   She has been caled the &#8220;Queen of the Pirates&#8221;(ossia &#8220;The queen of the queens.&#8221;<br />
    I was so sad at her recent passing)&#8230;<br />
BTW I once made a zillion tapes for the library in Ankara so more of her fellow countrymen (and a few women) could hear her more and more&#8230;..<br />
        I will never forget her..Charlie</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will, trying not to go only on my memory,
I went to the sills online website where performance details from &quot;NYCO annals&quot; are cited. Hopefully they are correct.

I have no close sources but from what I understood, Sills was more bothered by the competitiveness of Galvany&#039;s Elisabetta than by Tinsley&#039;s in the Stuarda performances. Galvany interpolated and held more high notes.

As far as Sills&#039; comments on Tinsley, keep in mind that there were definitely two sides to the sills personality ; the one for public consumption and the behind the scenes one. I always remember her being very, very gracious when I met her as a fan
backstage at the NYST but obviously she was not one to shy away from a conflict or a perceived challenge. And she didn&#039;t share the stage willingly with other sopranos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will, trying not to go only on my memory,<br />
I went to the sills online website where performance details from &#8220;NYCO annals&#8221; are cited. Hopefully they are correct.</p>
<p>I have no close sources but from what I understood, Sills was more bothered by the competitiveness of Galvany&#8217;s Elisabetta than by Tinsley&#8217;s in the Stuarda performances. Galvany interpolated and held more high notes.</p>
<p>As far as Sills&#8217; comments on Tinsley, keep in mind that there were definitely two sides to the sills personality ; the one for public consumption and the behind the scenes one. I always remember her being very, very gracious when I met her as a fan<br />
backstage at the NYST but obviously she was not one to shy away from a conflict or a perceived challenge. And she didn&#8217;t share the stage willingly with other sopranos.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So there is direct conflict in the stories: one that Dills has Tinsley&#039;s contract bought out after a few performances, another from Richard that Tinsley did the role for all three seasons of the production. 

I was not surprised to read Richard&#039;s account because I had read somewhere a statement by Sills lavishly praising Tinsley for her performance as Elizabetta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So there is direct conflict in the stories: one that Dills has Tinsley&#8217;s contract bought out after a few performances, another from Richard that Tinsley did the role for all three seasons of the production. </p>
<p>I was not surprised to read Richard&#8217;s account because I had read somewhere a statement by Sills lavishly praising Tinsley for her performance as Elizabetta.</p>
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		<title>By: Graciella Scusi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graciella Scusi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 03:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@28 richard..

 Of course you&#039;re right, richard..the Bolena was last. Somehow I had wiped it from my memory. It&#039;s really a shame that so many of Sills&#039; best years were before she was famous; every year in the seventies as her fame grew, the voice dwindled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@28 richard..</p>
<p> Of course you&#8217;re right, richard..the Bolena was last. Somehow I had wiped it from my memory. It&#8217;s really a shame that so many of Sills&#8217; best years were before she was famous; every year in the seventies as her fame grew, the voice dwindled.</p>
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		<title>By: Graciella Scusi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graciella Scusi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@27 Hans re: ATTILA ...

 &quot;SUCH a silly opera, really..&quot;

 HANS! I Love Attila; even if it was churned out during Verdi&#039;s &quot;galley&quot; years in Venice, genius will out, and soon after did, with Macbeth. I&#039;d put it on a par with Douglas Sirk&#039;s &#039;Sign of the Pagan&#039;with Jack Palance and Rita Gam, from HIS galley years at Universal; easy to laugh at, but the craft is there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@27 Hans re: ATTILA &#8230;</p>
<p> &#8220;SUCH a silly opera, really..&#8221;</p>
<p> HANS! I Love Attila; even if it was churned out during Verdi&#8217;s &#8220;galley&#8221; years in Venice, genius will out, and soon after did, with Macbeth. I&#8217;d put it on a par with Douglas Sirk&#8217;s &#8216;Sign of the Pagan&#8217;with Jack Palance and Rita Gam, from HIS galley years at Universal; easy to laugh at, but the craft is there.</p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16, Clita del Toro, 

I love that Trovatore too! It was one of the first opera videos I ever saw and it really made me love opera. 

It seems like they enjoyed making it as well, although some of staging is a little corny. :) I wonder if Italian TV audiences got to watch stuff like that all the time? It seems there are quite a few of those old b&amp;w vids out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16, Clita del Toro, </p>
<p>I love that Trovatore too! It was one of the first opera videos I ever saw and it really made me love opera. </p>
<p>It seems like they enjoyed making it as well, although some of staging is a little corny. <img src='http://parterre.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I wonder if Italian TV audiences got to watch stuff like that all the time? It seems there are quite a few of those old b&amp;w vids out there.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graciela,

I remembered Stuarda as being the middle
one of sills&#039; Donizetti Queens with Bolena
coming third (and I thought she sounded shredded in this last one).

I checked on her performance annals and
she did Stuarda three seasons starting in Spring &#039;72. Bolena came eighteen months later in Fall &#039;73. 

Regarding Tinsley, I was impressed with her
Elisabetta. Again I remembered her returning
for at least one revival and the annals bear this out. Actually they show Tinsley
in all three seasons that Sills did Stuarda
allthough I didn&#039;t remember this. Sills also was threatened by the other Elisabetta,
Marisa Galvany who LOVED to hold onto interpolated high notes as long as she could.

I saw Tinsley two or three times in Stuarda, I asked her back stage at NYCO if she was going to do anything else, she was noncomittal but I never saw her in anything else. Too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graciela,</p>
<p>I remembered Stuarda as being the middle<br />
one of sills&#8217; Donizetti Queens with Bolena<br />
coming third (and I thought she sounded shredded in this last one).</p>
<p>I checked on her performance annals and<br />
she did Stuarda three seasons starting in Spring &#8217;72. Bolena came eighteen months later in Fall &#8217;73. </p>
<p>Regarding Tinsley, I was impressed with her<br />
Elisabetta. Again I remembered her returning<br />
for at least one revival and the annals bear this out. Actually they show Tinsley<br />
in all three seasons that Sills did Stuarda<br />
allthough I didn&#8217;t remember this. Sills also was threatened by the other Elisabetta,<br />
Marisa Galvany who LOVED to hold onto interpolated high notes as long as she could.</p>
<p>I saw Tinsley two or three times in Stuarda, I asked her back stage at NYCO if she was going to do anything else, she was noncomittal but I never saw her in anything else. Too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans Lick</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard &amp; Graciella -

Of course Odabella is not the least nasty thing Verdi ever did to a lead soprano - you have to walk out on stage and blast the top off the house! And all anyone knew of the score in those days was Sutherland&#039;s recording of that aria - flawless and glorious, yes, but a recording studio version from a role Joan never risked in public (too smart to do so). So I was alarmed by Gencer at first exposure, but tried hard NOT to compare. The soft singing in the next act was indeed lovely; Hines was grand; and the tenor was wearing high-sandals to give him needed inches, only he kept tripping over them at dramatic moments. I forget who the baritone was. SUCH a silly opera, really - as Solera libretti tend to guarantee. Can&#039;t think why the Met is doing it. 

I&#039;ve heard wonderful things Gencer did from later in the decade, but those two performances were not high spots. 

I guess those Elisabettas are the only time I heard Tinsley, and she was the best thing in it. Sills&#039;s preghiera (but then I never did like her &lt;i&gt;singing&lt;/i&gt;) was not, IMHO, in a league with Caballe&#039;s, Sutherland&#039;s, Swenson&#039;s or Devia&#039;s. When I heard Theodossiou in the role, they cut the preghiera! Imagine my distress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard &amp; Graciella -</p>
<p>Of course Odabella is not the least nasty thing Verdi ever did to a lead soprano &#8211; you have to walk out on stage and blast the top off the house! And all anyone knew of the score in those days was Sutherland&#8217;s recording of that aria &#8211; flawless and glorious, yes, but a recording studio version from a role Joan never risked in public (too smart to do so). So I was alarmed by Gencer at first exposure, but tried hard NOT to compare. The soft singing in the next act was indeed lovely; Hines was grand; and the tenor was wearing high-sandals to give him needed inches, only he kept tripping over them at dramatic moments. I forget who the baritone was. SUCH a silly opera, really &#8211; as Solera libretti tend to guarantee. Can&#8217;t think why the Met is doing it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard wonderful things Gencer did from later in the decade, but those two performances were not high spots. </p>
<p>I guess those Elisabettas are the only time I heard Tinsley, and she was the best thing in it. Sills&#8217;s preghiera (but then I never did like her <i>singing</i>) was not, IMHO, in a league with Caballe&#8217;s, Sutherland&#8217;s, Swenson&#8217;s or Devia&#8217;s. When I heard Theodossiou in the role, they cut the preghiera! Imagine my distress.</p>
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		<title>By: mrmyster</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graciella, here is an anecdote heard directly from Tinsley herself: Peter Greenough attended Tinsley&#039;s rehearsals, &quot;hiding&quot; behind reading a Wall Street Journal, presumably then going to report to Sills. You are correct, after Tinsley took the show away from Sills, which I can easily imagine her doing, P. T.&#039;s contract was bought out and she did not again appear at NYCO in the Tudor queens, nor in any other roles that I know of.  I heard P. T. several times in St Louis (she was a very memorable Lady Billows in Herring), and she could sing damn near anything in the dramatic repertory, although not always with entirely pleasing sound. As a British queen or any such figure, of course, she would have been unmatched. Sills was scared to death of her, and had the power to rid NYCO of such competition. Tinsley was very aware of all this and made no bones about telling it.  Operaland is not always a nice place; Sills, it might also be noted, stabbed in the back the person who helped her most at NYCO, Julie Rudel, and convinced his board to give her his job, because as she said, &quot;he had abrogated his responsibilities.&quot; That was absolute nonsense, as is very obvious. While Sills could be an effective artist at times (Manon, Cleopatra), she was not entirely what one might term &#039;a nice person.&#039;  I expect to get in trouble for this posting, but it&#039;s worth setting out the facts sometimes. Flame or confirm as you wish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graciella, here is an anecdote heard directly from Tinsley herself: Peter Greenough attended Tinsley&#8217;s rehearsals, &#8220;hiding&#8221; behind reading a Wall Street Journal, presumably then going to report to Sills. You are correct, after Tinsley took the show away from Sills, which I can easily imagine her doing, P. T.&#8217;s contract was bought out and she did not again appear at NYCO in the Tudor queens, nor in any other roles that I know of.  I heard P. T. several times in St Louis (she was a very memorable Lady Billows in Herring), and she could sing damn near anything in the dramatic repertory, although not always with entirely pleasing sound. As a British queen or any such figure, of course, she would have been unmatched. Sills was scared to death of her, and had the power to rid NYCO of such competition. Tinsley was very aware of all this and made no bones about telling it.  Operaland is not always a nice place; Sills, it might also be noted, stabbed in the back the person who helped her most at NYCO, Julie Rudel, and convinced his board to give her his job, because as she said, &#8220;he had abrogated his responsibilities.&#8221; That was absolute nonsense, as is very obvious. While Sills could be an effective artist at times (Manon, Cleopatra), she was not entirely what one might term &#8216;a nice person.&#8217;  I expect to get in trouble for this posting, but it&#8217;s worth setting out the facts sometimes. Flame or confirm as you wish.</p>
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		<title>By: Graciella Scusi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graciella Scusi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tinsley was also the Elisabetta to Beverly Sills&#039; first Maria Stuarda at City Opera. It was the last of Sills&#039; Tudor Queens, and should have suited her best; but she was not in good form for the opening, and Tinsley blew Bubbles off the stage in the confrontation scene with her powerfully focused and projected dramatic soprano. There was a VERY long intermission, after which Beverly came back with her best singing of the night, the very last time I heard her effortlessly float a beautiful line, in the 3rd act preghiera. Ah, yes..the last act preghiera, in so many operas, was also often  sanctuary for Caballe, even if she had hummed her way through the first 2 acts.
Dis Tinsley evr sing in New York again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tinsley was also the Elisabetta to Beverly Sills&#8217; first Maria Stuarda at City Opera. It was the last of Sills&#8217; Tudor Queens, and should have suited her best; but she was not in good form for the opening, and Tinsley blew Bubbles off the stage in the confrontation scene with her powerfully focused and projected dramatic soprano. There was a VERY long intermission, after which Beverly came back with her best singing of the night, the very last time I heard her effortlessly float a beautiful line, in the 3rd act preghiera. Ah, yes..the last act preghiera, in so many operas, was also often  sanctuary for Caballe, even if she had hummed her way through the first 2 acts.<br />
Dis Tinsley evr sing in New York again?</p>
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		<title>By: ffoperabitch</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a youtube link to Pauline Tinsley&#039;s 80th birthday concert at St David&#039;s Hall in Cardiff: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sluzi-QGtyA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a youtube link to Pauline Tinsley&#8217;s 80th birthday concert at St David&#8217;s Hall in Cardiff: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sluzi-QGtyA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sluzi-QGtyA</a></p>
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		<title>By: Buster</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 21 = Harry Kupfer, not Friedrich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 21 = Harry Kupfer, not Friedrich.</p>
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		<title>By: Grimgerde2</title>
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		<description>Tinsley was very much part of my operatic youth. Lady Macbeth and Kostelnicka within three days of each other. And later Elektra and the Dyer&#039;s Wife. A nice-sized voice for smaller theatres - more cutting and piercing, rather than riding over an orchestra in full flood, but never ugly. And great diction with a vivid stage presence - she knew how to get around a role with the resources she had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tinsley was very much part of my operatic youth. Lady Macbeth and Kostelnicka within three days of each other. And later Elektra and the Dyer&#8217;s Wife. A nice-sized voice for smaller theatres &#8211; more cutting and piercing, rather than riding over an orchestra in full flood, but never ugly. And great diction with a vivid stage presence &#8211; she knew how to get around a role with the resources she had.</p>
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		<title>By: Buster</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first Elektra was with Pauline Tinsley and Anny Schlemm, 25 years ago, or so - the Götz Friedrich production. In Tinsley I still remember the combination of vulnerability and intensity that was almost too much. Schlemm was just wild. 
When she returned for a tiny part in Jenufa a long time afterwards, people in the audience would still shout Brava Elektra! during her curtain calls. Amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first Elektra was with Pauline Tinsley and Anny Schlemm, 25 years ago, or so &#8211; the Götz Friedrich production. In Tinsley I still remember the combination of vulnerability and intensity that was almost too much. Schlemm was just wild.<br />
When she returned for a tiny part in Jenufa a long time afterwards, people in the audience would still shout Brava Elektra! during her curtain calls. Amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sacerdotessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sacerdotessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tinsley is still singing isn&#039;t she?</description>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tinsley could be quite something. The one time I heard her live was as the Kostelnicka in a concert performance of Jenufa in Boston.  For reasons best known to the heart of a diva, she elected to wear a cream colored classic Empire gown and metallic gold wedgie sandals.  As the other singers had made some effort to simulate Czech village wear, the effect was very much as if one of the goddesses from La Belle Helene or Orphee aux Enfers had taken the wrong cloud and descended into The Bartered Bride.

But then she sang and pretty much mopped up the stage with everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tinsley could be quite something. The one time I heard her live was as the Kostelnicka in a concert performance of Jenufa in Boston.  For reasons best known to the heart of a diva, she elected to wear a cream colored classic Empire gown and metallic gold wedgie sandals.  As the other singers had made some effort to simulate Czech village wear, the effect was very much as if one of the goddesses from La Belle Helene or Orphee aux Enfers had taken the wrong cloud and descended into The Bartered Bride.</p>
<p>But then she sang and pretty much mopped up the stage with everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Graciella Scusi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graciella Scusi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@15 re: &quot;coarse glottal stroke&quot;

 Caballe used to defend it&#039;s use, saying that it was catalogued by Garcia as a legitimate vocal effect....which doesn&#039;t mean it should be done on every other note, but Callas, Caballe, Scotto, and of course &quot;the Gench&quot; could use it very effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@15 re: &#8220;coarse glottal stroke&#8221;</p>
<p> Caballe used to defend it&#8217;s use, saying that it was catalogued by Garcia as a legitimate vocal effect&#8230;.which doesn&#8217;t mean it should be done on every other note, but Callas, Caballe, Scotto, and of course &#8220;the Gench&#8221; could use it very effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Sacerdotessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sacerdotessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the Vickar&#039;s amusing promoting of British singer&#039;s, and I do love Tinsley, but thats apples and octopussys when comparing Gencer and Tinsley, What role&#039;s did they share if any? Maybe Aida or Lady Macbeth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the Vickar&#8217;s amusing promoting of British singer&#8217;s, and I do love Tinsley, but thats apples and octopussys when comparing Gencer and Tinsley, What role&#8217;s did they share if any? Maybe Aida or Lady Macbeth?</p>
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		<title>By: Clita del Toro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clita del Toro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I think Gencer&#039;s Leonora on the RAI Trovatore (with MdM) is wonderful--one of the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I think Gencer&#8217;s Leonora on the RAI Trovatore (with MdM) is wonderful&#8211;one of the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Amnerees</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/06/04/queen-of-the-pirates-2/comment-page-2/#comment-67435</link>
		<dc:creator>Amnerees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people who love particular sopranos feel they can do no wrong. But:

&quot;But for the unique combination of the coarse glottal stroke and elegant soft singing, you can’t beat Gencer.&quot;

Who would want to? Glottal attacks ARE coarse. Even Caballe stopped using them during her best years. There are other ways to make musical points. The few times I heard her, Gencer either sang loudly or softly. There wan&#039;t much in between. In her later years, she&#039;d run down to the edge of the stage and deliver those whispered high notes like &quot;asides&quot; to the audience. By the time she made it to Newark and Carnegie Hall, her performances were little more than camp. The Attila was a lot of fun, however, with the lead singers obviously ignoring one another. Jerome Hines, the Attila, wore a flowing wig and long strings of beads and twirled around like a voodoo princess. The whole thing was hilarious but went on too long.

I think that Gencer is best heard on recordings in which her vocal shortcomings--passagio problems, registerial inconsistencies, and lack of dynamic variety, are not so apparent. (Perhaps she&#039;s carrying a handheld mike, or maybe the recording engineers fooled with the volume levels.) Maybe she was much, much better before the late sixties, when I first heard her live in Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people who love particular sopranos feel they can do no wrong. But:</p>
<p>&#8220;But for the unique combination of the coarse glottal stroke and elegant soft singing, you can’t beat Gencer.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who would want to? Glottal attacks ARE coarse. Even Caballe stopped using them during her best years. There are other ways to make musical points. The few times I heard her, Gencer either sang loudly or softly. There wan&#8217;t much in between. In her later years, she&#8217;d run down to the edge of the stage and deliver those whispered high notes like &#8220;asides&#8221; to the audience. By the time she made it to Newark and Carnegie Hall, her performances were little more than camp. The Attila was a lot of fun, however, with the lead singers obviously ignoring one another. Jerome Hines, the Attila, wore a flowing wig and long strings of beads and twirled around like a voodoo princess. The whole thing was hilarious but went on too long.</p>
<p>I think that Gencer is best heard on recordings in which her vocal shortcomings&#8211;passagio problems, registerial inconsistencies, and lack of dynamic variety, are not so apparent. (Perhaps she&#8217;s carrying a handheld mike, or maybe the recording engineers fooled with the volume levels.) Maybe she was much, much better before the late sixties, when I first heard her live in Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
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		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>La marquise de Merteuil: Well, thanks to La Cieca&#039;s latest Unnatural Act, I&#039;ll be able to hear &lt;i&gt;Belisario&lt;/i&gt;. Never heard a Donizetti opera I didn&#039;t like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La marquise de Merteuil: Well, thanks to La Cieca&#8217;s latest Unnatural Act, I&#8217;ll be able to hear <i>Belisario</i>. Never heard a Donizetti opera I didn&#8217;t like.</p>
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		<title>By: La Valkyrietta</title>
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		<dc:creator>La Valkyrietta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember decades ago in the age of vinyl records I used to get pirated recordings in a store on 8th Street in the Village, called Discophile. I remember the salesman used to play Leyla Gencer and I told myself if ever I won lotto I would get her complete recordings. Well, I never won lotto, but I&#039;m glad I can get to hear more Leyla in Parterre. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember decades ago in the age of vinyl records I used to get pirated recordings in a store on 8th Street in the Village, called Discophile. I remember the salesman used to play Leyla Gencer and I told myself if ever I won lotto I would get her complete recordings. Well, I never won lotto, but I&#8217;m glad I can get to hear more Leyla in Parterre. <img src='http://parterre.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Vicar of John Wakefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Vicar of John Wakefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tinsley was the finer vocalist.</description>
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		<title>By: Sacerdotessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sacerdotessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her &quot;Traviata&quot; with Labo is wonderful. I think its from Florence or Firenze?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her &#8220;Traviata&#8221; with Labo is wonderful. I think its from Florence or Firenze?</p>
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		<title>By: La marquise de Merteuil</title>
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		<dc:creator>La marquise de Merteuil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kashania, if you get nothing but the Belisario then that will be enough. It is THE campest performance of anything I have heard - Gencer is bonkers in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kashania, if you get nothing but the Belisario then that will be enough. It is THE campest performance of anything I have heard &#8211; Gencer is bonkers in it.</p>
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		<title>By: scifisci</title>
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		<dc:creator>scifisci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you so much for this cieca, it&#039;s been wonderful to re-read!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you so much for this cieca, it&#8217;s been wonderful to re-read!</p>
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		<title>By: Graciella Scusi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graciella Scusi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love her pirates and DVDs, but count me among those who were disappointed at her Newark Attila, though I remember her being hampered in her fiendish entrance aria in the prologue by having to gingerly wend her way down a tall, thin, rail-less staircase on a typically spare Ming Cho Lee set. She did some lovely soft legato singing in her first act aria, but her powers were definitely diminished, or maybe she was just having a bad season. Not untypically, she sounds much better in a tape of that performance, where there is inevitably some compression to the sound. I thought she was marginally better, not long after that, at the Carnegie Caterina Cornaro with Taddei</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love her pirates and DVDs, but count me among those who were disappointed at her Newark Attila, though I remember her being hampered in her fiendish entrance aria in the prologue by having to gingerly wend her way down a tall, thin, rail-less staircase on a typically spare Ming Cho Lee set. She did some lovely soft legato singing in her first act aria, but her powers were definitely diminished, or maybe she was just having a bad season. Not untypically, she sounds much better in a tape of that performance, where there is inevitably some compression to the sound. I thought she was marginally better, not long after that, at the Carnegie Caterina Cornaro with Taddei</p>
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		<title>By: Krunoslav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krunoslav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leyla Gencer DID make a commercial aria recital for Cetra, with a haunting BOLENA final scene even better than the RAI one.

She was as much Polish/Lithuanian as Turkish- on her mother&#039;s side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leyla Gencer DID make a commercial aria recital for Cetra, with a haunting BOLENA final scene even better than the RAI one.</p>
<p>She was as much Polish/Lithuanian as Turkish- on her mother&#8217;s side.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucky Pierre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucky Pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why did she never record anything commercially?</description>
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