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		<title>By: CarlottaBorromeo</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-9/#comment-47531</link>
		<dc:creator>CarlottaBorromeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 02:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Mattila sang Elisabeth de Valois at Covent Garden (the Bondy production as at the Chatelet) she was pushed by the Act III finale - perhaps the voice lacked natral &quot;cut&quot; for that passage. Cotrubas, with certainly a smaller instrument than KM, was much more successful in a revival of the old production in the mid-80s. But Cotrubas was a very clever singer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Mattila sang Elisabeth de Valois at Covent Garden (the Bondy production as at the Chatelet) she was pushed by the Act III finale &#8211; perhaps the voice lacked natral &#8220;cut&#8221; for that passage. Cotrubas, with certainly a smaller instrument than KM, was much more successful in a revival of the old production in the mid-80s. But Cotrubas was a very clever singer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tamerlano</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-9/#comment-47411</link>
		<dc:creator>tamerlano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate Damrau in belcanto. She suffers the same problem that Dessay does in that the voice is largely colorless. She has great high notes and technical facility. All the big moments &quot;come off&quot; nicely but belcanto really isn&#039;t in the big moments. She also has a tendency to fill the vocal line with all sorts of &quot;tricky&quot; business...surges and swells, sudden dimuendi that break up the line. It adds something interesting to &quot;Der Holle Rache&quot; but it sounds out of place in belcanto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate Damrau in belcanto. She suffers the same problem that Dessay does in that the voice is largely colorless. She has great high notes and technical facility. All the big moments &#8220;come off&#8221; nicely but belcanto really isn&#8217;t in the big moments. She also has a tendency to fill the vocal line with all sorts of &#8220;tricky&#8221; business&#8230;surges and swells, sudden dimuendi that break up the line. It adds something interesting to &#8220;Der Holle Rache&#8221; but it sounds out of place in belcanto.</p>
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		<title>By: steveac10</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveac10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Myers SHOULD have canceled, or is that what he normally sounds like? I&#039;ve heard better singing from aging church choir tenors at sunrise services. I know nobody listens to Lucia for the Normanno, but if he&#039;s the best comprimario tenor they can muster up for an international telecast the casting director should be fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Myers SHOULD have canceled, or is that what he normally sounds like? I&#8217;ve heard better singing from aging church choir tenors at sunrise services. I know nobody listens to Lucia for the Normanno, but if he&#8217;s the best comprimario tenor they can muster up for an international telecast the casting director should be fired.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-9/#comment-47372</link>
		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Armerj- Bumbry is Eboli on the Met DVD with Freni and Domingo.
You may be thinking of a Met telecast/DVD from a few years earlier, back in the late 70s, with Scotto
and Moldovaneau(sp?). Troyanos does Eboli on that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Armerj- Bumbry is Eboli on the Met DVD with Freni and Domingo.<br />
You may be thinking of a Met telecast/DVD from a few years earlier, back in the late 70s, with Scotto<br />
and Moldovaneau(sp?). Troyanos does Eboli on that one.</p>
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		<title>By: J. G. Pastorkyna</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-8/#comment-47366</link>
		<dc:creator>J. G. Pastorkyna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On February 6, 2009 at 12:32 pm, All-Knowing Seashell whispered: Under Magda Lazsloâ€™s (sp?) direction, the Metâ€™s wig department was an international joke.

It wasn&#039;t Magda Laszlo (the first Cressida) who was the wigmaster, it was Helen Lawson. I mean Nina Lawson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On February 6, 2009 at 12:32 pm, All-Knowing Seashell whispered: Under Magda Lazsloâ€™s (sp?) direction, the Metâ€™s wig department was an international joke.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t Magda Laszlo (the first Cressida) who was the wigmaster, it was Helen Lawson. I mean Nina Lawson.</p>
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		<title>By: armerjacquino</title>
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		<dc:creator>armerjacquino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regina- I think it was Troyanos, not Bumbry, in that Met Don Carlo, no?

I saw Ricciarelli as Elisabetta at CG in the late 80s and she was unforgettable in Act 5, and unmemorable in the rest of the part. Although that night was all about Baltsa, who was thrilling.

I don&#039;t see Netrebko as Elisabetta, really. As la Cieca pointed out elsewhere, it&#039;s not that long ago that she was a Susanna and a Zerlina. &#039;Non pianger&#039; would be lovely but I think &#039;Tu che le vanita&#039; and the duet would be a real push.

I&#039;m surprised that nobody has mentioned Mattila in all this Elisabetta/Elisabeth talk. She&#039;s magnificent in the Paris production on DVD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regina- I think it was Troyanos, not Bumbry, in that Met Don Carlo, no?</p>
<p>I saw Ricciarelli as Elisabetta at CG in the late 80s and she was unforgettable in Act 5, and unmemorable in the rest of the part. Although that night was all about Baltsa, who was thrilling.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see Netrebko as Elisabetta, really. As la Cieca pointed out elsewhere, it&#8217;s not that long ago that she was a Susanna and a Zerlina. &#8216;Non pianger&#8217; would be lovely but I think &#8216;Tu che le vanita&#8217; and the duet would be a real push.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised that nobody has mentioned Mattila in all this Elisabetta/Elisabeth talk. She&#8217;s magnificent in the Paris production on DVD.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronizetti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronizetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 02:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might be one of those confused with rooting for Damaru, but  truth be told I only mentioned her as she was singing the production previously - simply in deference to someone with coloratura facility at hand ( ie. anyone else but Netbrenko )  Nope, wasn&#039;t there in October for Damaru but you can bet your bippy I WAS there last year for Massis&#039;s LUCIA - as even one of her less ardent fans moaned here, &quot;OK, she&#039;s perfect&quot; * brilliant remark by the way, thank you!  She is VERY proficient in Belcanto and in my opinion one of the finest singers of Donizetti since Sills  ... The question of &#039;volume&#039; of her voice may be discussed ( I did hear her at the Met but agree a smaller house may be more ideal ), but it&#039;s neither a thin or colorless voice, it&#039;s often rather husky - but ALWAYS used appropriately and musically and those notes are SPOT on and can be held for an eternity!  She&#039;s powerful, elegant, but most importantly she sing intelligently ... WELL TRAINED.  ( a charming lady to boot )  I would love to hear her tomorrow, if only!  I can&#039;t wait to see what tomorrow brings~!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might be one of those confused with rooting for Damaru, but  truth be told I only mentioned her as she was singing the production previously &#8211; simply in deference to someone with coloratura facility at hand ( ie. anyone else but Netbrenko )  Nope, wasn&#8217;t there in October for Damaru but you can bet your bippy I WAS there last year for Massis&#8217;s LUCIA &#8211; as even one of her less ardent fans moaned here, &#8220;OK, she&#8217;s perfect&#8221; * brilliant remark by the way, thank you!  She is VERY proficient in Belcanto and in my opinion one of the finest singers of Donizetti since Sills  &#8230; The question of &#8216;volume&#8217; of her voice may be discussed ( I did hear her at the Met but agree a smaller house may be more ideal ), but it&#8217;s neither a thin or colorless voice, it&#8217;s often rather husky &#8211; but ALWAYS used appropriately and musically and those notes are SPOT on and can be held for an eternity!  She&#8217;s powerful, elegant, but most importantly she sing intelligently &#8230; WELL TRAINED.  ( a charming lady to boot )  I would love to hear her tomorrow, if only!  I can&#8217;t wait to see what tomorrow brings~!</p>
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		<title>By: graustark</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-8/#comment-47302</link>
		<dc:creator>graustark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 01:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it starting to get a little bit late in the game for all this wishful thinking about Trebs? She is who she is. I&#039;ve seen her five times over the years. It&#039;s always the same deal. She&#039;s superficial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it starting to get a little bit late in the game for all this wishful thinking about Trebs? She is who she is. I&#8217;ve seen her five times over the years. It&#8217;s always the same deal. She&#8217;s superficial.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans Lick</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-8/#comment-47295</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Lick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 01:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaertner made his Met debut subbing for Kwiecien in Act III of Lucia; he is quite handsome. The incest idea has never struck me as at all reasonable in Lucia; Enrico loves no one but himself. The way Kwiecien sings Act I makes me physically ill because I know what he CAN do with that voice when he&#039;s rational. (In Mozart, i.e.) 

Netrebko should be singing Tsar&#039;s Bride, War &amp; Peace, Betrothal in a Monsatery and Ruslan v Ludmila. Perhaps Snegouroutchka and Life for the Tsar. In a few years, maybe Manon Lescaut, Liu, Leonora and Desdemona.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaertner made his Met debut subbing for Kwiecien in Act III of Lucia; he is quite handsome. The incest idea has never struck me as at all reasonable in Lucia; Enrico loves no one but himself. The way Kwiecien sings Act I makes me physically ill because I know what he CAN do with that voice when he&#8217;s rational. (In Mozart, i.e.) </p>
<p>Netrebko should be singing Tsar&#8217;s Bride, War &amp; Peace, Betrothal in a Monsatery and Ruslan v Ludmila. Perhaps Snegouroutchka and Life for the Tsar. In a few years, maybe Manon Lescaut, Liu, Leonora and Desdemona.</p>
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		<title>By: CelticGoddess</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-8/#comment-47283</link>
		<dc:creator>CelticGoddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 00:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to know - which night was he there???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to know &#8211; which night was he there???</p>
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		<title>By: CelticGoddess</title>
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		<dc:creator>CelticGoddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 00:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It can only be McVicar: http://www.positivenation.co.uk/issue90/regulars/artspage/arts_special.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can only be McVicar: <a href="http://www.positivenation.co.uk/issue90/regulars/artspage/arts_special.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.positivenation.co.uk/issue90/regulars/artspage/arts_special.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-8/#comment-47270</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@56, Klingsor2000, I was tempted to say there wouldn&#039;t be bigos Kielbasa at the Met tomorrow.  But that would suppositional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@56, Klingsor2000, I was tempted to say there wouldn&#8217;t be bigos Kielbasa at the Met tomorrow.  But that would suppositional.</p>
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		<title>By: Thackeray Gnomey</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-8/#comment-47268</link>
		<dc:creator>Thackeray Gnomey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A propos of nothing in particular, take a listen to cadenza just after the 5.00 mark here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bR-s4qdBpU
It would be nice if one could make out a word she said elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A propos of nothing in particular, take a listen to cadenza just after the 5.00 mark here:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bR-s4qdBpU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bR-s4qdBpU</a><br />
It would be nice if one could make out a word she said elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Thackeray Gnomey</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-8/#comment-47262</link>
		<dc:creator>Thackeray Gnomey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once she was a shlepper (or at least a Lucia), now she&#039;s Miss Mazeppa ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once she was a shlepper (or at least a Lucia), now she&#8217;s Miss Mazeppa &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MICHAEL</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-7/#comment-47253</link>
		<dc:creator>MICHAEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>June, thatÎ„s an interesting case. IÎ„m searching for some of her pirates, the trovatore, the bassarids, the capriccio, the bolena. Any help? I heard her live in an open space 1 1/2 year ago. Quite good, better than I expected. She never had a trill, by the way. Unexpectedly, she is great in the carnegie mazeppa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>June, thatÎ„s an interesting case. IÎ„m searching for some of her pirates, the trovatore, the bassarids, the capriccio, the bolena. Any help? I heard her live in an open space 1 1/2 year ago. Quite good, better than I expected. She never had a trill, by the way. Unexpectedly, she is great in the carnegie mazeppa.</p>
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		<title>By: Thackeray Gnomey</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-7/#comment-47251</link>
		<dc:creator>Thackeray Gnomey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, MICHAEL, as Joan Sutherland is reputed to have said to June Anderson: &quot;The top E flats are in that jaw, dear.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, MICHAEL, as Joan Sutherland is reputed to have said to June Anderson: &#8220;The top E flats are in that jaw, dear.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Thackeray Gnomey</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-7/#comment-47250</link>
		<dc:creator>Thackeray Gnomey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radvanovsky really has something (though I know she&#039;s not to all tastes on her), but  Elisabetta -- as heard on the radio at least -- didn&#039;t play to all her strengths. Somehow it needs a tone that is more, as the French say, &#039;pulpeuse&#039;. I remember reading that she didn&#039;t quite &#039;get&#039; the role when she did it at the Met, but I think she&#039;s due to do it again in Paris at some point over the next couple of years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radvanovsky really has something (though I know she&#8217;s not to all tastes on her), but  Elisabetta &#8212; as heard on the radio at least &#8212; didn&#8217;t play to all her strengths. Somehow it needs a tone that is more, as the French say, &#8216;pulpeuse&#8217;. I remember reading that she didn&#8217;t quite &#8216;get&#8217; the role when she did it at the Met, but I think she&#8217;s due to do it again in Paris at some point over the next couple of years.</p>
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		<title>By: MICHAEL</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-7/#comment-47249</link>
		<dc:creator>MICHAEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna has the face of a star, Diana has the face of a horse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna has the face of a star, Diana has the face of a horse.</p>
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		<title>By: Drammy</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-7/#comment-47246</link>
		<dc:creator>Drammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satisfied, I do not live in New York either...I am still confused [well not confused, just a bit peeved] that Netrebko&#039;s Lucia is sold out in two shakes of a lamb&#039;s tail and Damrau never had a single full house. Different priorities, one supposes ;-]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satisfied, I do not live in New York either&#8230;I am still confused [well not confused, just a bit peeved] that Netrebko&#8217;s Lucia is sold out in two shakes of a lamb&#8217;s tail and Damrau never had a single full house. Different priorities, one supposes ;-]</p>
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		<title>By: ika</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-7/#comment-47245</link>
		<dc:creator>ika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i also liked radvanovsky  as Elisabeth in San Diego.  She was great</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i also liked radvanovsky  as Elisabeth in San Diego.  She was great</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-7/#comment-47243</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought that radvanovsky was an affecting Elisabeth de Valois in 2005 at the Met. 
and Urmana was a great Eboli.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought that radvanovsky was an affecting Elisabeth de Valois in 2005 at the Met.<br />
and Urmana was a great Eboli.</p>
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		<title>By: dorion</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-7/#comment-47242</link>
		<dc:creator>dorion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only certain thing about tomorrow is that the curtain will go up at 1pm, the rest is pure internet gossip. Not even Gelb knows who&#039;s really singing until about noon.

I&#039;ve read enough nonsense on this site the last 2 weeks not to trust it, including that character gloating that he predicted that Villazon was going to rest up the entire week so he could be in shape for the HD, and that&#039;s why Filianoti stepped in etc etc. He even linked to his prediction.

If Kwiecien does cancel, there goes the only decent Netrebko scene, the confrontation with her brother in act 2. She has better chemistry with Kwiecien than with Villazon himself, as we&#039;ve seen in Pasquale. The interesting incestuous touch won&#039;t be the same with another baritone. All this drama made me decide to attend the matinee, I was going to stay home and listen to the broadcast. But there&#039;s nowhere else to be but the house tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only certain thing about tomorrow is that the curtain will go up at 1pm, the rest is pure internet gossip. Not even Gelb knows who&#8217;s really singing until about noon.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read enough nonsense on this site the last 2 weeks not to trust it, including that character gloating that he predicted that Villazon was going to rest up the entire week so he could be in shape for the HD, and that&#8217;s why Filianoti stepped in etc etc. He even linked to his prediction.</p>
<p>If Kwiecien does cancel, there goes the only decent Netrebko scene, the confrontation with her brother in act 2. She has better chemistry with Kwiecien than with Villazon himself, as we&#8217;ve seen in Pasquale. The interesting incestuous touch won&#8217;t be the same with another baritone. All this drama made me decide to attend the matinee, I was going to stay home and listen to the broadcast. But there&#8217;s nowhere else to be but the house tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Thackeray Gnomey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thackeray Gnomey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... &#039;Tu che la vanita&#039; is surely a big sing (and I&#039;m beginning to think these days that it is maybe Verdi&#039;s greatest soprano aria, even if it it not a display piece). Those magnificent phrases in the opening and closing sections surely need to be filled with ample tone.

Crespin was offered the role by Karajan, but felt it didn&#039;t have enough to offer. She regretted that decision later, and so should we! I&#039;m pretty sure I have a recording of her doing &#039;Tu che ...&#039;, though unfortunately not in the original French. Must dig it out ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; &#8216;Tu che la vanita&#8217; is surely a big sing (and I&#8217;m beginning to think these days that it is maybe Verdi&#8217;s greatest soprano aria, even if it it not a display piece). Those magnificent phrases in the opening and closing sections surely need to be filled with ample tone.</p>
<p>Crespin was offered the role by Karajan, but felt it didn&#8217;t have enough to offer. She regretted that decision later, and so should we! I&#8217;m pretty sure I have a recording of her doing &#8216;Tu che &#8230;&#8217;, though unfortunately not in the original French. Must dig it out &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Thackeray Gnomey</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-7/#comment-47239</link>
		<dc:creator>Thackeray Gnomey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I saw Violeta Urmana sing Elisabetta a couple of years ago in Turin! Her persona is not really right for the role, and the timre perhaps doesn&#039;t have the requisite radiance, but she is a singer of refinement and it didn&#039;t sound like a case of sledgehammer and nut. To my ears, Elisabetta is at least, as Leontyne would say, a juicy lyric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I saw Violeta Urmana sing Elisabetta a couple of years ago in Turin! Her persona is not really right for the role, and the timre perhaps doesn&#8217;t have the requisite radiance, but she is a singer of refinement and it didn&#8217;t sound like a case of sledgehammer and nut. To my ears, Elisabetta is at least, as Leontyne would say, a juicy lyric.</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-6/#comment-47235</link>
		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regina: I think that Tebaldi was wrong about the role. She had one of the fullest lirico-spinto Italian soprano voice I&#039;ve heard. If it was too heavy for her, then it was too heavy for most everyone who sang it in the 50 years. 

As for Freni, I&#039;ve heard people describe her voice has sounding larger than before by the time of those Elisabettas but I&#039;ve also read that she felt she was pushing the limits of her voice and didn&#039;t sing the role again.

I think there are a number of roles (Elisabetta, Cio-Cio San) that have elements of both lyric and spinto roles in them, and it&#039;s a matter of what part of the voice the heavy parts lie, and what the singer is willing to sacrifise to sing the part. There are probably parts of Butterly where Netrebko would feel a bit drowned out by the orchestra. To my mind, this is no reason not the sing the role at all. Just like there are Violettas who get swamped by the orchestra here and there but ultimately offer a rewarding performance.

Few roles fit singers like a glove. As long as the singer is willing to concede certain elements here and there and sing within his/her voice&#039;s abilties (as opposed to trying to push the voice), then the role can be a success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regina: I think that Tebaldi was wrong about the role. She had one of the fullest lirico-spinto Italian soprano voice I&#8217;ve heard. If it was too heavy for her, then it was too heavy for most everyone who sang it in the 50 years. </p>
<p>As for Freni, I&#8217;ve heard people describe her voice has sounding larger than before by the time of those Elisabettas but I&#8217;ve also read that she felt she was pushing the limits of her voice and didn&#8217;t sing the role again.</p>
<p>I think there are a number of roles (Elisabetta, Cio-Cio San) that have elements of both lyric and spinto roles in them, and it&#8217;s a matter of what part of the voice the heavy parts lie, and what the singer is willing to sacrifise to sing the part. There are probably parts of Butterly where Netrebko would feel a bit drowned out by the orchestra. To my mind, this is no reason not the sing the role at all. Just like there are Violettas who get swamped by the orchestra here and there but ultimately offer a rewarding performance.</p>
<p>Few roles fit singers like a glove. As long as the singer is willing to concede certain elements here and there and sing within his/her voice&#8217;s abilties (as opposed to trying to push the voice), then the role can be a success.</p>
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		<title>By: Regina delle fate</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-6/#comment-47232</link>
		<dc:creator>Regina delle fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops - repeated myself. Sorry</description>
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		<title>By: Regina delle fate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regina delle fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read a Trebs interview in which she says she does want to sing Elisabetta. It&#039;s funny how people&#039;s view of Elisabetta has changed. Tebaldi thought it was too heavy for her - I am pretty sure she only recorded it, rather late in the day - and yet smaller-voiced Italian sopranos, Freni, Scotto and Ricciarelli all had successes with it. I think Karajan persuading Freni to do it changed people&#039;s view of the role. Alas, I never heard her sing it live, but she sounds wonderful on the Met DVD with Domingo, Grace Melzia, Louis Quilico (if memory serves) and Ghiaurov. Ricciarelli sang it at Covent Garden, La Scala, Paris - in the Garnier days - and Munich and we even had Cotrubas in the role later in her career (it wasn&#039;t judged a success in the house, but she is heartbreaking on the DVD) So who knows whether it is a lyric or a spinto role. In days of the great spintos, Don Carlos was a bit of a rarity, though Callas sang Elisabetta at La Scala. Stella, who was as tough as old boots, made two of the earliest &quot;complete&quot; recordings. I read somewhere that Netrebko did want to sing it, but she might have trouble the low tessitura of La pace del avel in Tu che le vanitÃ , I suppose. As for Poplavskaya, she is still allegedly returning to the role in this September&#039;s revival of Don Carlos, with Kaufmann in the title role, but I heard she is no longer in the Met cast when the production transfers and Pappano has withdrawn, too. Maybe Netrebko or Angela will come to rescue, or, more likely, Pat Racette. That&#039;s probably an improvement on Poplavskaya. She&#039;s also singing Violetta in Marta Domingo&#039;s modern-dress staging in LA this season, isn&#039;t she?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read a Trebs interview in which she says she does want to sing Elisabetta. It&#8217;s funny how people&#8217;s view of Elisabetta has changed. Tebaldi thought it was too heavy for her &#8211; I am pretty sure she only recorded it, rather late in the day &#8211; and yet smaller-voiced Italian sopranos, Freni, Scotto and Ricciarelli all had successes with it. I think Karajan persuading Freni to do it changed people&#8217;s view of the role. Alas, I never heard her sing it live, but she sounds wonderful on the Met DVD with Domingo, Grace Melzia, Louis Quilico (if memory serves) and Ghiaurov. Ricciarelli sang it at Covent Garden, La Scala, Paris &#8211; in the Garnier days &#8211; and Munich and we even had Cotrubas in the role later in her career (it wasn&#8217;t judged a success in the house, but she is heartbreaking on the DVD) So who knows whether it is a lyric or a spinto role. In days of the great spintos, Don Carlos was a bit of a rarity, though Callas sang Elisabetta at La Scala. Stella, who was as tough as old boots, made two of the earliest &#8220;complete&#8221; recordings. I read somewhere that Netrebko did want to sing it, but she might have trouble the low tessitura of La pace del avel in Tu che le vanitÃ , I suppose. As for Poplavskaya, she is still allegedly returning to the role in this September&#8217;s revival of Don Carlos, with Kaufmann in the title role, but I heard she is no longer in the Met cast when the production transfers and Pappano has withdrawn, too. Maybe Netrebko or Angela will come to rescue, or, more likely, Pat Racette. That&#8217;s probably an improvement on Poplavskaya. She&#8217;s also singing Violetta in Marta Domingo&#8217;s modern-dress staging in LA this season, isn&#8217;t she?</p>
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		<title>By: kashania</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-6/#comment-47222</link>
		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A birdie has told me that, inspired by Domingo&#039;s Maurizio, the great Sherill Milnes will be assuming the role of Enrico tomorrow, thus allowing him a crack at getting into HD broadcast history. If he feels up to it, he might even try to recreate the high B-flat in the Wolf&#039;s Crag scene which he sang so famously in the Bonynge recording.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A birdie has told me that, inspired by Domingo&#8217;s Maurizio, the great Sherill Milnes will be assuming the role of Enrico tomorrow, thus allowing him a crack at getting into HD broadcast history. If he feels up to it, he might even try to recreate the high B-flat in the Wolf&#8217;s Crag scene which he sang so famously in the Bonynge recording.</p>
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		<title>By: klingsor2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>klingsor2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay.  Love your K/kielbasa comment.  So RUDE!</description>
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		<title>By: gianni</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2009/02/06/hd-anxiety/comment-page-6/#comment-47219</link>
		<dc:creator>gianni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen Gaertner is Kwiecen&#039;s cover.  He was recently Melot in the HD Broadcast of Tristan.</description>
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