Comments on: say it loud and there’s music playing http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/ where opera is king and you, the readers, are queens Sun, 27 May 2012 02:53:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: wenarto http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-13/#comment-47586 wenarto Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:53:47 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47586 La Cieca - who has the russian lyrics in ABCs? help everyone, I want to sing this in russian :-) La Cieca – who has the russian lyrics in ABCs? help everyone, I want to sing this in russian :-)

]]> By: kashania http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-13/#comment-47488 kashania Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:59:06 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47488 Appunto: It was quite masterful the way Domingo (God love him) managed to take all of today's young stars in his loving embrace. Appunto: It was quite masterful the way Domingo (God love him) managed to take all of today’s young stars in his loving embrace.

]]> By: Anatema Suvoi http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-13/#comment-47481 Anatema Suvoi Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:44:00 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47481 Cieca: You wrote way too much to respond to; but, one point: I'd rather have the singer do the all hard work before a performance than have to listen to them work at it during the performance. Yes, a performance should seem spontaneous and "joyful," if you want. If you feel that Nebs gives you that, I am happy for you. Cieca:

You wrote way too much to respond to; but, one point: I’d rather have the singer do the all hard work before a performance than have to listen to them work at it during the performance. Yes, a performance should seem spontaneous and “joyful,” if you want. If you feel that Nebs gives you that, I am happy for you.

]]> By: Appunto http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-12/#comment-47463 Appunto Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:29:56 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47463 keep telling that to yourself. A pitch established by the full orchestra is the given pitch. when the singer fails that, he or she or things like you would be off pitch. your "impersonations" whatver the hell that means, don't like anyone. Now you hide in this bullshyte "off pitch" chastisement. Conducting much these days? keep telling that to yourself. A pitch established by the full orchestra is the given pitch. when the singer fails that, he or she or things like you would be off pitch. your “impersonations” whatver the hell that means, don’t like anyone. Now you hide in this bullshyte “off pitch” chastisement. Conducting much these days?

]]> By: spiderman http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-12/#comment-47453 spiderman Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:17:33 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47453 #115 no, you with your different impersonations are hilarious. I find it quite intriguing that people who have nothing to say about voice production or technique always come along with the off-pitch-number. There is no singer who was never off-pitch. I even heared Gruberova, one of the finest coloraturas of our time sing a whole "Regnava nel silenzio" in different tune than the orchester played... #115 no, you with your different impersonations are hilarious. I find it quite intriguing that people who have nothing to say about voice production or technique always come along with the off-pitch-number.

There is no singer who was never off-pitch. I even heared Gruberova, one of the finest coloraturas of our time sing a whole “Regnava nel silenzio” in different tune than the orchester played…

]]> By: kashania http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-12/#comment-47421 kashania Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:39:10 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47421 I agree. RAS sang the role better (with a less glamorous tone) but I still don't think Nebs is bad. I agree. RAS sang the role better (with a less glamorous tone) but I still don’t think Nebs is bad.

]]> By: Anatema Suvoi http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-12/#comment-47417 Anatema Suvoi Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:19:00 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47417 Kashania: For a "major" singer of the role it was BAD. Maybe for the Mid West Opera Theater of Sheboygan it would be okay! Seriously, off pitch singing was only part of her problem. Dull phrasing is another. I am not a big RAS fan, but her Lucia was much better; and of course, without the hype and 'excitement" surrounding Nebs' appearance. Kashania: For a “major” singer of the role it was BAD.
Maybe for the Mid West Opera Theater of Sheboygan it would be okay!
Seriously, off pitch singing was only part of her problem. Dull phrasing is another.

I am not a big RAS fan, but her Lucia was much better; and of course, without the hype and ‘excitement” surrounding Nebs’ appearance.

]]> By: Appunto http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-12/#comment-47416 Appunto Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:16:16 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47416 my goodness. Domingo takes credit for Filianoti and Rolando and Anna a part of his operalia? Man has no shame. He loves to take credit for everything. Spider, you must defend him or you won't work again right? my goodness. Domingo takes credit for Filianoti and Rolando and Anna a part of his operalia? Man has no shame. He loves to take credit for everything. Spider, you must defend him or you won’t work again right?

]]> By: Appunto http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-12/#comment-47415 Appunto Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:14:08 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47415 no one can say that about you dear spidey..... your pitch is dead on, you hack everybody the same. You are hilarious. no one can say that about you dear spidey….. your pitch is dead on, you hack everybody the same. You are hilarious.

]]> By: kashania http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-12/#comment-47412 kashania Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:59:28 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47412 Anatema: I'm serious. I haven't had my coffee yet but I really didn't hear the pitch problems you did. It wasn't flawless but I don't know what you found so bad. Anatema: I’m serious. I haven’t had my coffee yet but I really didn’t hear the pitch problems you did. It wasn’t flawless but I don’t know what you found so bad.

]]> By: Anatema Suvoi http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-12/#comment-47410 Anatema Suvoi Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:56:03 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47410 spidman: yes, "off pitch" is a new word for me, never heard it before in my 55 years of opera going! And kashania, dearest: are you serious, she was soooo bad it was frightening! Worse than before. She was better in the duet, but not much. spidman: yes, “off pitch” is a new word for me, never heard it before in my 55 years of opera going!
And kashania, dearest: are you serious, she was soooo bad it was frightening! Worse than before. She was better in the duet, but not much.

]]> By: spiderman http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-12/#comment-47406 spiderman Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:50:41 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47406 oh dear... off-pitch is the new word all the opera queens on parterre.com learned. it's quite remarkable how many people have developed perfect ears in so short time... but BEWARE you use it on holy cows like Millo... oh dear… off-pitch is the new word all the opera queens on parterre.com learned. it’s quite remarkable how many people have developed perfect ears in so short time…

but BEWARE you use it on holy cows like Millo…

]]> By: kashania http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-12/#comment-47405 kashania Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:49:19 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47405 I disagree. I think she was careful, especially in her choice of tempo but I think she did a nice job. I disagree. I think she was careful, especially in her choice of tempo but I think she did a nice job.

]]> By: Anatema Suvoi http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-11/#comment-47400 Anatema Suvoi Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:40:23 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47400 Nebs: Probably one of the worst Regnava and cabaletta I have ever heard----and off pich twenty-five percent of the time. Nebs: Probably one of the worst Regnava and cabaletta I have ever heard—-and off pich twenty-five percent of the time.

]]> By: jatm2063 http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-11/#comment-47398 jatm2063 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:28:04 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47398 I wonder if JJ is going to review this one. I wonder if JJ is going to review this one.

]]> By: Anatema Suvoi http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-11/#comment-47396 Anatema Suvoi Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:15:49 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47396 ladivina You can't be serious??? The house may have been "trembling" with applause--that, of course, proves it was a great performance--OY! ladivina

You can’t be serious??? The house may have been “trembling” with applause–that, of course, proves it was a great performance–OY!

]]> By: Appunto http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-11/#comment-47395 Appunto Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:14:27 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47395 duel of vocal giants. well that is optomistic. I was there and no it wasn't fabulous. The out of tune singing from everyone but Domingo was atrocious. duel of vocal giants. well that is optomistic. I was there and no it wasn’t fabulous. The out of tune singing from everyone but Domingo was atrocious.

]]> By: SusyQ http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-11/#comment-47393 SusyQ Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:08:28 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47393 I too was at the Met last night and thought the performance was thrilling! A few (very young) people around me were giggling at first at Guleghina but once Domingo appeared they stopped. I have been to some performances this season when younger people have left after the first act - but not so last night. The crowd really went crazy with applause. I too was at the Met last night and thought the performance was thrilling! A few (very young) people around me were giggling at first at Guleghina but once Domingo appeared they stopped. I have been to some performances this season when younger people have left after the first act – but not so last night. The crowd really went crazy with applause.

]]> By: ladivina74 http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-11/#comment-47390 ladivina74 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:47:04 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47390 just one question: Who did catch the live performance at the MET last night ? Cause I did get in last night and was overwhelmed! It was a fantastic performance, the whole cast was superb! No so called wobbles, no out of tune notes. Of course it was transposed, but this only speaks for the singers! Guleghina (and I have no problem to admit that I adore her) was singing as a mezzo and soprano - this only speaks for her range. Needless to say that Domingo was simply fantastic, not only as a singer but as actor. He and Guleghina were both very believable and had incredible chemistry between them. Borodina was also great and was singing at some parts rich contralto. The duet between Principessa and Adriana was extremely intense it was like a duel of vocal giants. Armiliato was great as always. On the whole an incredibly beautiful performance that will surely go down in history. I understand that to some "unhappy" people this "review" is a thorn in the eye, and honestly, I don't care, because the truth is that the house was trembling with applause. just one question:
Who did catch the live performance at the MET last night ? Cause I did get in last night and was overwhelmed! It was a fantastic performance, the whole cast was superb! No so called wobbles, no out of tune notes. Of course it was transposed, but this only speaks for the singers! Guleghina (and I have no problem to admit that I adore her) was singing as a mezzo and soprano – this only speaks for her range. Needless to say that Domingo was simply fantastic, not only as a singer but as actor. He and Guleghina were both very believable and had incredible chemistry between them. Borodina was also great and was singing at some parts rich contralto. The duet between Principessa and Adriana was extremely intense it was like a duel of vocal giants.
Armiliato was great as always. On the whole an incredibly beautiful performance that will surely go down in history.

I understand that to some “unhappy” people this “review” is a thorn in the eye, and honestly, I don’t care, because the truth is that the house was trembling with applause.

]]> By: leahzea http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-11/#comment-47378 leahzea Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:55:55 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47378 the only past past past, is your battery life on the hearing aid you use. the only past past past, is your battery life on the hearing aid you use.

]]> By: spiderman http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-11/#comment-47363 spiderman Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:00:49 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47363 don't worry, i do have millo's adriana. i also have her recent attempts as tosca in chicago and at the met and her amelias in ny and paris. she is one of those singers where people just do not WANT to hear that the prime is past past past. don’t worry, i do have millo’s adriana.
i also have her recent attempts as tosca in chicago and at the met and her amelias in ny and paris. she is one of those singers where people just do not WANT to hear that the prime is past past past.

]]> By: leahzea http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-11/#comment-47360 leahzea Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:22:32 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47360 I have the whole performance of Millo as Adriana, spiderman, she is perfectly on pitch, unlike the ghoul last night... and there is no wobble. Does it bother you that that is so? If you need the pirate recording you should look it up online at Ed Rosen's or amazon.com. Guleghina is a good singer, just not in this and last night. I have the whole performance of Millo as Adriana, spiderman, she is perfectly on pitch, unlike the ghoul last night… and there is no wobble. Does it bother you that that is so? If you need the pirate recording you should look it up online at Ed Rosen’s or amazon.com. Guleghina is a good singer, just not in this and last night.

]]> By: MICHAEL http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-11/#comment-47357 MICHAEL Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:15:38 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47357 Millo. Millo.

]]> By: spiderman http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-10/#comment-47354 spiderman Sat, 07 Feb 2009 09:27:38 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47354 but millo's pitch isn't any better than guleghinas. and YES, Millo wobbles like HELL who is covering guleghina anyway? but millo’s pitch isn’t any better than guleghinas.
and YES, Millo wobbles like HELL

who is covering guleghina anyway?

]]> By: Zinka the Kunc http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-10/#comment-47351 Zinka the Kunc Sat, 07 Feb 2009 07:06:21 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47351 She was BORRRING!!! A few could spoken moments..but the tone was ugly....Where is MAGDA??????????? A litle plug to remind you that I am second to La Cieca in presenting some good stuff: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Handelmania&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f# My 84 Videos on Google..Lots of fun!! CH She was BORRRING!!! A few could spoken moments..but the tone was ugly….Where is MAGDA???????????

A litle plug to remind you that I am second to La Cieca in presenting some good stuff:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Handelmania&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#

My 84 Videos on Google..Lots of fun!! CH

]]> By: O mein Gott http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-10/#comment-47339 O mein Gott Sat, 07 Feb 2009 04:36:07 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47339 well that had some good some bad. I was happy and surprised about Placido. Too low a lot of the opera but he is better than some modern voices for legato. Borodina was ok, not enough. Guleghina was a cypher until the Phedra. Some unnecessary petulence. But ok. The Poveri fiori suffered badly from pitch and it is too low essentially. Domingo warts and all was the star tonight. well that had some good some bad. I was happy and surprised about Placido. Too low a lot of the opera but he is better than some modern voices for legato. Borodina was ok, not enough. Guleghina was a cypher until the Phedra. Some unnecessary petulence. But ok. The Poveri fiori suffered badly from pitch and it is too low essentially. Domingo warts and all was the star tonight.

]]> By: OMG http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-10/#comment-47338 OMG Sat, 07 Feb 2009 04:29:45 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47338 Well, glad this is over. I need some scotch. Well, glad this is over. I need some scotch.

]]> By: justanothertenor http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-10/#comment-47337 justanothertenor Sat, 07 Feb 2009 04:15:31 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47337 The thing that irks me most about Ghuleghina's voice is the fact she seems to be unable to sing piano. She appears to equate a piano marking with coming completely off her voice. And that is where it turns very ugly. The thing that irks me most about Ghuleghina’s voice is the fact she seems to be unable to sing piano. She appears to equate a piano marking with coming completely off her voice. And that is where it turns very ugly.

]]> By: ashtonjoliet http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-10/#comment-47336 ashtonjoliet Sat, 07 Feb 2009 04:14:07 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47336 The transposition is awful and even that is difficult -- just tuning in. This is sad The transposition is awful
and even that is difficult — just tuning in. This is sad

]]> By: Perfidia2 http://parterre.com/2009/02/05/say-it-loud-and-theres-music-playing/comment-page-10/#comment-47335 Perfidia2 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 04:09:12 +0000 http://parterre.com/?p=2762#comment-47335 boy that was bad. poor thing. boy that was bad. poor thing.

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