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		<title>Cantantelirico commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cantantelirico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing quite like tearing down the idols we once build and worshiped.</description>
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		<title>merefoix118 commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>merefoix118</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG the Malibran Lucia version is cracking! Don&#039;t get the Bartoli machinery started, dunce!</description>
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		<title>mrmyster commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrmyster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#87  &quot;deaf or bribed...&quot; the writer in the Times. Well, in a way both, Mr Klingsor -- and I commend your brief posting: it&#039;s on the right track. 
    The Times is very beholden to the NY business establishment, for obvious reasons beginning with advertising, and the want to &quot;sell&quot; NY arts performances. It&#039;s just about that simple.  Tony T. hears what he wants to hear and writes pro-establishment reviews that always put a favorable twist on things. I have often written this here and I&#039;ll say it again as regards Tommassini: He is whore to the New York arts business establishment.&quot;
Shocking, but true -- and in the end, very boring. 
I love your postings Klingsor and Hans Lick. Keep &#039;em coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#87  &#8220;deaf or bribed&#8230;&#8221; the writer in the Times. Well, in a way both, Mr Klingsor &#8212; and I commend your brief posting: it&#8217;s on the right track.<br />
    The Times is very beholden to the NY business establishment, for obvious reasons beginning with advertising, and the want to &#8220;sell&#8221; NY arts performances. It&#8217;s just about that simple.  Tony T. hears what he wants to hear and writes pro-establishment reviews that always put a favorable twist on things. I have often written this here and I&#8217;ll say it again as regards Tommassini: He is whore to the New York arts business establishment.&#8221;<br />
Shocking, but true &#8212; and in the end, very boring.<br />
I love your postings Klingsor and Hans Lick. Keep &#8216;em coming.</p>
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		<title>E commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I further think it is a terrible thing to publish this on Youtube, for, IMHO, the sole reason of being vindictive to Villazon. I have published live performance recordings for more than 40 years, and would never publish a performance- not even a note- that showed any singer off badly. This was done with purpose and a nasty kind of glee, and it disgusts me completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I further think it is a terrible thing to publish this on Youtube, for, IMHO, the sole reason of being vindictive to Villazon. I have published live performance recordings for more than 40 years, and would never publish a performance- not even a note- that showed any singer off badly. This was done with purpose and a nasty kind of glee, and it disgusts me completely.</p>
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		<title>E commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is sung down a half step, which is the exact key that the following tenors always sing this piece in in live performances: Pavarotti, Domingo, Carreras, Bergonzi, Tucker, Peerce, Labo, Konya, and many more. The only tenors I recall singing this is the original key are/were: Gedda, Kraus, Giordani, and perhaps one or two more. It is virtually tradition to lower this 1/2 tone. It is NOT lowered a full tone as some were saying before the performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is sung down a half step, which is the exact key that the following tenors always sing this piece in in live performances: Pavarotti, Domingo, Carreras, Bergonzi, Tucker, Peerce, Labo, Konya, and many more. The only tenors I recall singing this is the original key are/were: Gedda, Kraus, Giordani, and perhaps one or two more. It is virtually tradition to lower this 1/2 tone. It is NOT lowered a full tone as some were saying before the performance.</p>
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		<title>Hans Lick commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hans Lick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, now I&#039;ve listened to the clip.

No, the E-flats were not good, and she&#039;d be wise to take them down. Also the shriek is ridiculous and NOT bel canto. But I don&#039;t see why people are so fierce about this. It&#039;s no sort of disgrace.

I recall my first Rigoletto (9/19/68, debut of Aragall and Judith Forst), when Peters ducked the high notes after Caro Nome and the quartet. I was very disappointed (I was a kid and I&#039;d been listening to the first Sutherland recording), but I knew even then that they were not written by Verdi. And Peters just didn&#039;t have them any more. Did she owe me a pie in the face? She did not. (She sang wonderful Adinas and Oscars that same season.) Ten years later, when I knew a bit more, I heard Ashley Putnam&#039;s Ophelie at NYCO and was impressed that she omitted high notes she didn&#039;t have. The result was a far finer performance. Netrebko should consider that, or simply transpose it down. (As Sutherland transposed the Queen of the Night, by the way, never having had a reliable F.) 

Other than that, Netrebko sounds rather lovely here - I&#039;d certainly rather hear her Donizetti than Dessay&#039;s. But I&#039;d rather hear Damrau&#039;s Lucia than either of theirs (it was a very good one last fall the night the set broke and she had to improvise a new staging of the mad scene), and I&#039;d rather hear Devia&#039;s Donizetti than any other soprano now singing him (to my knowledge). Based on the Maria Stuarda last year, she has perfect command of the style, the technique and the POINT of the whole thing. 

Has Radvanovsky ever sung Lucia? It&#039;s higher than Lucrezia, and more exposed, but not by that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, now I&#8217;ve listened to the clip.</p>
<p>No, the E-flats were not good, and she&#8217;d be wise to take them down. Also the shriek is ridiculous and NOT bel canto. But I don&#8217;t see why people are so fierce about this. It&#8217;s no sort of disgrace.</p>
<p>I recall my first Rigoletto (9/19/68, debut of Aragall and Judith Forst), when Peters ducked the high notes after Caro Nome and the quartet. I was very disappointed (I was a kid and I&#8217;d been listening to the first Sutherland recording), but I knew even then that they were not written by Verdi. And Peters just didn&#8217;t have them any more. Did she owe me a pie in the face? She did not. (She sang wonderful Adinas and Oscars that same season.) Ten years later, when I knew a bit more, I heard Ashley Putnam&#8217;s Ophelie at NYCO and was impressed that she omitted high notes she didn&#8217;t have. The result was a far finer performance. Netrebko should consider that, or simply transpose it down. (As Sutherland transposed the Queen of the Night, by the way, never having had a reliable F.) </p>
<p>Other than that, Netrebko sounds rather lovely here &#8211; I&#8217;d certainly rather hear her Donizetti than Dessay&#8217;s. But I&#8217;d rather hear Damrau&#8217;s Lucia than either of theirs (it was a very good one last fall the night the set broke and she had to improvise a new staging of the mad scene), and I&#8217;d rather hear Devia&#8217;s Donizetti than any other soprano now singing him (to my knowledge). Based on the Maria Stuarda last year, she has perfect command of the style, the technique and the POINT of the whole thing. </p>
<p>Has Radvanovsky ever sung Lucia? It&#8217;s higher than Lucrezia, and more exposed, but not by that much.</p>
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		<title>kashania commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Midgette&#039;s review is far more exacting and much more reflective of the audio clips I&#039;ve heard on this site. Midgette has become a changed writer since leaving the NYT, which makes me wonder even more about the NYT and the editors. How much of non-specific, bland, let&#039;s-not-criticise-anyone &quot;criticism&quot; is actually the result of what&#039;s been taken out of the NYT&#039;s reviews by the editors?? I&#039;ve never been one for conspiracy theories but I&#039;m starting to believe that this whole  Gelb influence on the NYT theory may not be so far-fetched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Midgette&#8217;s review is far more exacting and much more reflective of the audio clips I&#8217;ve heard on this site. Midgette has become a changed writer since leaving the NYT, which makes me wonder even more about the NYT and the editors. How much of non-specific, bland, let&#8217;s-not-criticise-anyone &#8220;criticism&#8221; is actually the result of what&#8217;s been taken out of the NYT&#8217;s reviews by the editors?? I&#8217;ve never been one for conspiracy theories but I&#8217;m starting to believe that this whole  Gelb influence on the NYT theory may not be so far-fetched.</p>
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		<title>Cocky Kurwenal commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cocky Kurwenal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was, in the mad scene, just not for the cadenza, which used the flute for some reason.  You can just hear it in the background in &#039;spargi d&#039;amaro pianto&#039; (sp?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was, in the mad scene, just not for the cadenza, which used the flute for some reason.  You can just hear it in the background in &#8217;spargi d&#8217;amaro pianto&#8217; (sp?).</p>
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		<title>iltenoredigrazia commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>iltenoredigrazia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a more accurate review in today&#039;s The Washington Post by Ms. Midgette.

Was the glass harmonica used or not?   I doesn&#039;t sound like it on the sound clip.   But the review above refers to it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a more accurate review in today&#8217;s The Washington Post by Ms. Midgette.</p>
<p>Was the glass harmonica used or not?   I doesn&#8217;t sound like it on the sound clip.   But the review above refers to it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>klingsor2000 commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>klingsor2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of us who were there, the Times review really does suggest that the write is either deaf or bribed! Many have long felt that theTimes reviews are aimed at the masses who have NOT seen the performances, so they can write freely.  And for the few who were there and know how false the Times reviews are?  --  &quot;so WHAT&quot;!!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of us who were there, the Times review really does suggest that the write is either deaf or bribed! Many have long felt that theTimes reviews are aimed at the masses who have NOT seen the performances, so they can write freely.  And for the few who were there and know how false the Times reviews are?  &#8212;  &#8220;so WHAT&#8221;!!?</p>
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		<title>kashania commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>kashania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sanford: YES!!! A Bartoli Marlibran Lucia is the real answer. Bravo! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanford: YES!!! A Bartoli Marlibran Lucia is the real answer. Bravo! <img src='http://parterre.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Sanford commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two other suggestions for Lucia, one of which will most assuredly get me flamed, but I don&#039;t care.

Erika Miklosa - she already looks a little crazed when she sings and she&#039;d have no trouble with the coloratura.

Young Ok Shin - She&#039;s sung Lucia at the Met already

Or.... how about transposing it into mezzo keys and letting Bartoli claim it&#039;s the Maria Malibran version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two other suggestions for Lucia, one of which will most assuredly get me flamed, but I don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>Erika Miklosa &#8211; she already looks a little crazed when she sings and she&#8217;d have no trouble with the coloratura.</p>
<p>Young Ok Shin &#8211; She&#8217;s sung Lucia at the Met already</p>
<p>Or&#8230;. how about transposing it into mezzo keys and letting Bartoli claim it&#8217;s the Maria Malibran version.</p>
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		<title>tom222 commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something I mean quite serious:

Why is everybody bashing Netrebko left and right!? We all know she is no second Callas, we all know where she delivers her goods and where not. But at least she gives a little attention to opera. If there are about 100 people who get really interested in the art form we all love so much, isn&#039;t that a good thing!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something I mean quite serious:</p>
<p>Why is everybody bashing Netrebko left and right!? We all know she is no second Callas, we all know where she delivers her goods and where not. But at least she gives a little attention to opera. If there are about 100 people who get really interested in the art form we all love so much, isn&#8217;t that a good thing!?</p>
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		<title>Nerva Nelli commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nerva Nelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ms. Netrebko was spellbinding. In the hushed pianissimo passage when the delusional young woman believes she and her beloved Edgardo are at last united, she created vocal magic, imbuing lines with spectral colorings that matched the eerie sounds of the glass harmonica, played by Cecilia Brauer. Her earthy, subdued expressivity had me thinking of Callas.&quot;


How can this man not be ashamed to be a shameless apologist for Gelb&#039;s stsr system and the record company darlings?

The LUCIA review is proof if ever such were needed that Tommasini is not fit to review operatic performances.

Previous Callas comparisons by him include Flanigan and Hunt Leiberson, plus there have n=been more, along with all those &quot;cool Nordic sounds&quot;.

A disgrace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ms. Netrebko was spellbinding. In the hushed pianissimo passage when the delusional young woman believes she and her beloved Edgardo are at last united, she created vocal magic, imbuing lines with spectral colorings that matched the eerie sounds of the glass harmonica, played by Cecilia Brauer. Her earthy, subdued expressivity had me thinking of Callas.&#8221;</p>
<p>How can this man not be ashamed to be a shameless apologist for Gelb&#8217;s stsr system and the record company darlings?</p>
<p>The LUCIA review is proof if ever such were needed that Tommasini is not fit to review operatic performances.</p>
<p>Previous Callas comparisons by him include Flanigan and Hunt Leiberson, plus there have n=been more, along with all those &#8220;cool Nordic sounds&#8221;.</p>
<p>A disgrace.</p>
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		<title>Cocky Kurwenal commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cocky Kurwenal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, other than 4 more Lucias in Vienna, Netrebko is spending the rest of the season singing far more congenial repertoire - Giulietta in London (still bel canto, but a bit more of a realistic prospect), Traviata (lets hope she doesn&#039;t go for the e-flat!), Mimi and finally, thank God, Iolantha in Baden-Baden for which she is pretty much ideal.  Lets hope Iolantha is well enough received to indicate to her management that THIS is what she should be using her talents for.  I love the opera in any case and it would be great if it got a bit more of a foot hold in the repertoire, troublesome though its length is.  

What do people think the chances are of either Netrebko being replaced as Anna Bolena, or an alternative opera being mounted as Netrebko&#039;s season opener in 2011?  They&#039;ve probably made too much of a fuss about it already to substitute anything (or anyone) now, and it isn&#039;t as wide of the mark for her as Lucia is, but I&#039;d still prefer somebody with a more dramatic voice and a more precise approach for Anna Bolena.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, other than 4 more Lucias in Vienna, Netrebko is spending the rest of the season singing far more congenial repertoire &#8211; Giulietta in London (still bel canto, but a bit more of a realistic prospect), Traviata (lets hope she doesn&#8217;t go for the e-flat!), Mimi and finally, thank God, Iolantha in Baden-Baden for which she is pretty much ideal.  Lets hope Iolantha is well enough received to indicate to her management that THIS is what she should be using her talents for.  I love the opera in any case and it would be great if it got a bit more of a foot hold in the repertoire, troublesome though its length is.  </p>
<p>What do people think the chances are of either Netrebko being replaced as Anna Bolena, or an alternative opera being mounted as Netrebko&#8217;s season opener in 2011?  They&#8217;ve probably made too much of a fuss about it already to substitute anything (or anyone) now, and it isn&#8217;t as wide of the mark for her as Lucia is, but I&#8217;d still prefer somebody with a more dramatic voice and a more precise approach for Anna Bolena.</p>
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		<title>Leonardo d'Olandia commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonardo d'Olandia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a bummer for you guys in NYC!

It&#039;s a pity that Rolando&#039;s voice still is in  decline (started four years ago...).
It looks like Anna Netrebko has to get another manager, who knows better what to do with the voice (learning and daring to say &quot;no&quot; to Mr. Gelb).

Best whishes from overseas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a bummer for you guys in NYC!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pity that Rolando&#8217;s voice still is in  decline (started four years ago&#8230;).<br />
It looks like Anna Netrebko has to get another manager, who knows better what to do with the voice (learning and daring to say &#8220;no&#8221; to Mr. Gelb).</p>
<p>Best whishes from overseas.</p>
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		<title>Pleasetellme commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pleasetellme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is an idiot coming to the USA who says the only really great singers are Dessay and Renay.

Jazz and white tone.  I will try to remember the freak&#039;s name, but he told a young student who worked a few things with him that the way to sing bel canto is like dessay and Renay.

So, let&#039;s al;l get this straight, lush gorgeous tones mean nothing.  You must sound white, straight toned, ugly, reestablish the legato on every new word, throw in vocal screams wherever possible, leave portamenti out, what do all those Italian composers know any way.

Anyone who finds Dessay on any chart at any level passable is forgetting what food sound and singing is supposed to be about.  Forget Renay withher hideous misuse of a great sound, forget it entirely, when she behaves it is still possible to care.  BUT I mean are we crazy to think some freak teacher is coming here from london the land of the white ugly voice to tell us Dessay is better than Callas!

Coming to an HD near you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is an idiot coming to the USA who says the only really great singers are Dessay and Renay.</p>
<p>Jazz and white tone.  I will try to remember the freak&#8217;s name, but he told a young student who worked a few things with him that the way to sing bel canto is like dessay and Renay.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s al;l get this straight, lush gorgeous tones mean nothing.  You must sound white, straight toned, ugly, reestablish the legato on every new word, throw in vocal screams wherever possible, leave portamenti out, what do all those Italian composers know any way.</p>
<p>Anyone who finds Dessay on any chart at any level passable is forgetting what food sound and singing is supposed to be about.  Forget Renay withher hideous misuse of a great sound, forget it entirely, when she behaves it is still possible to care.  BUT I mean are we crazy to think some freak teacher is coming here from london the land of the white ugly voice to tell us Dessay is better than Callas!</p>
<p>Coming to an HD near you!</p>
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		<title>Cocky Kurwenal commented</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Chevalier Dupin is quite right.  I also think ArmerJ at about #44 is quite right too - Netrebko is surely mis-cast, fails at the e-flats, and doesn&#039;t sound terribly interested in what she is doing, but some of the basic singing is not without redeeming features.  I think the case against her is being over-stated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Chevalier Dupin is quite right.  I also think ArmerJ at about #44 is quite right too &#8211; Netrebko is surely mis-cast, fails at the e-flats, and doesn&#8217;t sound terribly interested in what she is doing, but some of the basic singing is not without redeeming features.  I think the case against her is being over-stated.</p>
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		<title>ChevalierDupin commented</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Parterre Readers,

Quite frankly I&#039;m complacently unsurprised and nonplussed at the outcome of this casting and the &quot;filth&quot; of the performance being discussed.  To put it simply, Villazon needs to get a teacher and Netrebko needs not only a stable and good teacher but also needs to move far away from anything considered &quot;Bel Canto.&quot;  It is a grave disappointment that the &quot;stars&quot; who sell tickets are seemingly incapable at delivering barely decent singing; forget expecting great or stupendous.

Both Dessay and Damrau were spectacular in this production, albeit in extremely different ways yet both outstanding actresses and both vocally secure (even if Dessay is not quite in the same shape she was a few years ago, she knows how to make her resources work to her advantage).

The demands of the operatic industry today are truly singer-suicide.  As I have told many of the vocalists I&#039;ve worked with on numerous occasions: No one cares about your voice more than you should and it&#039;s up to the singer to take care of themselves because no one else is going to do it.  Teachers and coaches are here to (hopefully) offer advice and positive assistance, but it is up to the singer to preserve themselves and make the correct decisions concerning vocal health and career choices.  Anyone who jumps from one corner of the earth to a nother in a matter of days singing extremely varied repertoire is not taking the correct or professional steps at taking care of their instruments or themselves.  They do a grave injustice to themselves, to those who hire them, to their colleagues, to those who are forced to listen to them, and to the music.  It is always better to cancel in the event of illness than go out and &quot;fare una figura di merda.&quot;  You end up being a huge disappointment to everyone involved and shoot yourself in the foot.  I say: let the queens and critics speculate all they want---if you know that you are doing what is best to keep yourself healthy and sane and vocally fit, no amount of slander can harm you.  Villazon, once a promising voice and talent has proven to be nothing more than an extremely foolish and arrogant personality who , much like Miss Gheorghiu, lacks the appropriate education in handling oneself professionally.  I am referring to his famous interview where he states that he does not have a teacher or coach and that when he took time off to recover from his vocal crisis, how he boasted that he didn&#039;t sing a note prior to his performance of Werther upon his return to the stage.  It is simply unprofessional and disrespectful and idiotic.  The issue is not whether he chose to sing the final aria transposed down (although I am personally against many such choices and many tenors of old have resorted to doing so: Corelli in Trovatore, Pavarotti and Valletti in Fille, various individuals in Les Pecheurs or in Boheme) but the fact that he seems to have such little regard for his vocal health and his ability to successfully execute a role after making some of his repertoire and schedule choices.

Netrebko, too, should stay home, be a mother and completely recover physically, work through the vocal changes affected by her various hormonal alterations, and learn from the mistake of other singers who have suffered vocal crises at the result of intense body modifications (Voight).  It&#039;s simply atrocious to walk out on stage and sound like that.

My last thought: Sutherland was certainly one of the greatest Lucia&#039;s, but both Gruberova and Devia have carried that torch and both are able to do things that no one else is capable of executing.  It is foolish to draw comparisons.  Certainly one can state that one has a preference for one soprano&#039;s rendition over another, but to withhold due credit to other great interpreters of a part (and I believe that with regards to recent history, both Dessay and Damrau have achieved such stature) is immature and ignorant.

I have spoken.

Stay warm!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Parterre Readers,</p>
<p>Quite frankly I&#8217;m complacently unsurprised and nonplussed at the outcome of this casting and the &#8220;filth&#8221; of the performance being discussed.  To put it simply, Villazon needs to get a teacher and Netrebko needs not only a stable and good teacher but also needs to move far away from anything considered &#8220;Bel Canto.&#8221;  It is a grave disappointment that the &#8220;stars&#8221; who sell tickets are seemingly incapable at delivering barely decent singing; forget expecting great or stupendous.</p>
<p>Both Dessay and Damrau were spectacular in this production, albeit in extremely different ways yet both outstanding actresses and both vocally secure (even if Dessay is not quite in the same shape she was a few years ago, she knows how to make her resources work to her advantage).</p>
<p>The demands of the operatic industry today are truly singer-suicide.  As I have told many of the vocalists I&#8217;ve worked with on numerous occasions: No one cares about your voice more than you should and it&#8217;s up to the singer to take care of themselves because no one else is going to do it.  Teachers and coaches are here to (hopefully) offer advice and positive assistance, but it is up to the singer to preserve themselves and make the correct decisions concerning vocal health and career choices.  Anyone who jumps from one corner of the earth to a nother in a matter of days singing extremely varied repertoire is not taking the correct or professional steps at taking care of their instruments or themselves.  They do a grave injustice to themselves, to those who hire them, to their colleagues, to those who are forced to listen to them, and to the music.  It is always better to cancel in the event of illness than go out and &#8220;fare una figura di merda.&#8221;  You end up being a huge disappointment to everyone involved and shoot yourself in the foot.  I say: let the queens and critics speculate all they want&#8212;if you know that you are doing what is best to keep yourself healthy and sane and vocally fit, no amount of slander can harm you.  Villazon, once a promising voice and talent has proven to be nothing more than an extremely foolish and arrogant personality who , much like Miss Gheorghiu, lacks the appropriate education in handling oneself professionally.  I am referring to his famous interview where he states that he does not have a teacher or coach and that when he took time off to recover from his vocal crisis, how he boasted that he didn&#8217;t sing a note prior to his performance of Werther upon his return to the stage.  It is simply unprofessional and disrespectful and idiotic.  The issue is not whether he chose to sing the final aria transposed down (although I am personally against many such choices and many tenors of old have resorted to doing so: Corelli in Trovatore, Pavarotti and Valletti in Fille, various individuals in Les Pecheurs or in Boheme) but the fact that he seems to have such little regard for his vocal health and his ability to successfully execute a role after making some of his repertoire and schedule choices.</p>
<p>Netrebko, too, should stay home, be a mother and completely recover physically, work through the vocal changes affected by her various hormonal alterations, and learn from the mistake of other singers who have suffered vocal crises at the result of intense body modifications (Voight).  It&#8217;s simply atrocious to walk out on stage and sound like that.</p>
<p>My last thought: Sutherland was certainly one of the greatest Lucia&#8217;s, but both Gruberova and Devia have carried that torch and both are able to do things that no one else is capable of executing.  It is foolish to draw comparisons.  Certainly one can state that one has a preference for one soprano&#8217;s rendition over another, but to withhold due credit to other great interpreters of a part (and I believe that with regards to recent history, both Dessay and Damrau have achieved such stature) is immature and ignorant.</p>
<p>I have spoken.</p>
<p>Stay warm!</p>
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		<title>scifisci commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>scifisci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill -- thank you so much...your recollections are very much appreciated by those of us not lucky enough to catch the greats!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8212; thank you so much&#8230;your recollections are very much appreciated by those of us not lucky enough to catch the greats!</p>
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