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		<title>By: Operalala</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/25/soaring-instruments/comment-page-9/#comment-26169</link>
		<dc:creator>Operalala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first Helmwige was Lilli Lehmann...</description>
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		<title>By: high c's pirate</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/25/soaring-instruments/comment-page-9/#comment-26103</link>
		<dc:creator>high c's pirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>theorin is also the star of the copenhagen ring, now on dvd. she&#039;s one of the most enjoyable brunnhildes on video: big voice, secure high notes, a committed actress (and very well directed). she&#039;s no wraith, but she keeps you watching. stephen milling as hunding/fasolt is also a treat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>theorin is also the star of the copenhagen ring, now on dvd. she&#8217;s one of the most enjoyable brunnhildes on video: big voice, secure high notes, a committed actress (and very well directed). she&#8217;s no wraith, but she keeps you watching. stephen milling as hunding/fasolt is also a treat.</p>
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		<title>By: pavel</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/25/soaring-instruments/comment-page-9/#comment-26101</link>
		<dc:creator>pavel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scaramuccio - you can hear Theorin as the &lt;i&gt;Siegfried&lt;/i&gt; BrÃ¼nnhilde in Washington DC in May &#039;09, and then in November &#039;09 in Washington&#039;s complete &lt;i&gt;Ring&lt;/i&gt; cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scaramuccio &#8211; you can hear Theorin as the <i>Siegfried</i> BrÃ¼nnhilde in Washington DC in May &#8217;09, and then in November &#8217;09 in Washington&#8217;s complete <i>Ring</i> cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Scaramuccio</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/25/soaring-instruments/comment-page-8/#comment-26040</link>
		<dc:creator>Scaramuccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t that interesting: Irene Theorin was infinitely the best of all the sopranos in the Royal Opera Walkure, and how her Helmwige made sure we knew it - so quite right, Hagen d&#039;Arse.

I still want to hear her do something bigger (Brunnhilde, for example). Reports of that have been mixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t that interesting: Irene Theorin was infinitely the best of all the sopranos in the Royal Opera Walkure, and how her Helmwige made sure we knew it &#8211; so quite right, Hagen d&#8217;Arse.</p>
<p>I still want to hear her do something bigger (Brunnhilde, for example). Reports of that have been mixed.</p>
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		<title>By: Hagen d'Arse</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/25/soaring-instruments/comment-page-8/#comment-26002</link>
		<dc:creator>Hagen d'Arse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ALWAYS check who is singing Helmwige in any Walkure I see or hear - there have been some fabulous ones in the past who have gone on to greater things!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ALWAYS check who is singing Helmwige in any Walkure I see or hear &#8211; there have been some fabulous ones in the past who have gone on to greater things!</p>
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		<title>By: hab mir's gelobt</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/25/soaring-instruments/comment-page-8/#comment-25983</link>
		<dc:creator>hab mir's gelobt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>speaking of lotte rysanek ... in the 1958 kna ring from bayreuth she really nails her hojotohos as helmwige, it is absolutely riveting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of lotte rysanek &#8230; in the 1958 kna ring from bayreuth she really nails her hojotohos as helmwige, it is absolutely riveting!</p>
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		<title>By: rysanekfreak</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/25/soaring-instruments/comment-page-8/#comment-25943</link>
		<dc:creator>rysanekfreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes...The Dalibor with both Rysaneks is such an experience.

And yes...the Gwyneth Elektra in San Francisco was one of those great apocalyptic nights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes&#8230;The Dalibor with both Rysaneks is such an experience.</p>
<p>And yes&#8230;the Gwyneth Elektra in San Francisco was one of those great apocalyptic nights.</p>
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		<title>By: Tildydiva</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/25/soaring-instruments/comment-page-8/#comment-25933</link>
		<dc:creator>Tildydiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard Mary Costa many times in the 60s and 70s. Her Met Manon opposite Gedda, Bacquier and Tozzi is still the best Manon by far and I saw Sills, Fleming, Swenson, Brooks, Netrebko and others in the part. 


Costa was also one of the great Violettas of all time and was a superb Marguerite in Faust, Margherita/Elena in &quot;Mefistofele,&quot; Rosalinda, Musetta, Rosina and as Titania in the American premiere of &quot;Midsummer Night&#039;s Dream.&quot; Like many other great stars of that time, she lacks the recorded legacy but the pirate recordings are really the best way to assess Costa&#039;s work.


In addition to San Francisco Opera, which was her home house in the U.S., Costa had big successes in other important opera houses -- Manon, Violetta and five other roles at the Met, Violetta at the Bolshoi and Covent Garden, Giuletta in &quot;Capuletti&quot; opposite Simoniato at Carnegie Hall, Manon in Lisbon and Geneva with the Paris Opera on tour (opposite Alain Vanzo.) She had a big success as Musetta for the Met&#039;s historic first tour of Japan in 1975. Someone mentioned already that she also starred as Cunegonde in the first London production of Candide and at the request of Leonard Bernstein returned to the role for the opening week of the then new Kennedy Center with Bernstein conducting.
 

The BBC also mounted full television productions of &quot;Traviata&quot;, &quot;Faust&quot; and &quot;The Merry Widow&quot; for the diva. She has spent the last few years working hard to bring desperately needed funding for opera and symphony orchestras serving on the Advisory Council of the National Endowment for the Arts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Mary Costa many times in the 60s and 70s. Her Met Manon opposite Gedda, Bacquier and Tozzi is still the best Manon by far and I saw Sills, Fleming, Swenson, Brooks, Netrebko and others in the part. </p>
<p>Costa was also one of the great Violettas of all time and was a superb Marguerite in Faust, Margherita/Elena in &#8220;Mefistofele,&#8221; Rosalinda, Musetta, Rosina and as Titania in the American premiere of &#8220;Midsummer Night&#8217;s Dream.&#8221; Like many other great stars of that time, she lacks the recorded legacy but the pirate recordings are really the best way to assess Costa&#8217;s work.</p>
<p>In addition to San Francisco Opera, which was her home house in the U.S., Costa had big successes in other important opera houses &#8212; Manon, Violetta and five other roles at the Met, Violetta at the Bolshoi and Covent Garden, Giuletta in &#8220;Capuletti&#8221; opposite Simoniato at Carnegie Hall, Manon in Lisbon and Geneva with the Paris Opera on tour (opposite Alain Vanzo.) She had a big success as Musetta for the Met&#8217;s historic first tour of Japan in 1975. Someone mentioned already that she also starred as Cunegonde in the first London production of Candide and at the request of Leonard Bernstein returned to the role for the opening week of the then new Kennedy Center with Bernstein conducting.</p>
<p>The BBC also mounted full television productions of &#8220;Traviata&#8221;, &#8220;Faust&#8221; and &#8220;The Merry Widow&#8221; for the diva. She has spent the last few years working hard to bring desperately needed funding for opera and symphony orchestras serving on the Advisory Council of the National Endowment for the Arts.</p>
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		<title>By: hab mir's gelobt</title>
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		<dc:creator>hab mir's gelobt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hagen: the fassbaender maid/offstage voice in frosch is actually in the munich live set from 1963 with borkh and fidi under keilberth, but nonetheless it is great to have such a token of the young fassbaender - but to have her as the amme would make my day...

when it comes to gwyneth, i too saw her ortrud in lohengrin at covent garden early in 1997 (it must have been february as i remember queueing for a last minute ticket/standing ticket outside when it was snowing ... that was before they sold standing in advance and when one had to queue outside the opera house, gosh luckily things have changed since), which was the first time i came across her singing and even though she had a considerable stage prescence, i thought the singing per se was by far the worst i had ever heard so far. then i bought the lohengrin set under kubelik from 1971 (or 1969?) and i found her ortrud on there terrible as well. so for me that spoilt gwyneth for a long time.

i still don&#039;t like her voice but have since heard her first operatic recital, which is very good indeed. but as i heard her giving vocally such an under par performance in lohengrin that really put me off her. so i personally always approach her with caution, but then i didnt see her live in her heyday. i dont like the studio recording that she made of Ã¤gyptische helena and i used to her her late wagner recital on chandos (which i resold very quickly) BUT her excerpts of the trovatore leonora on youtube are absolutely lovely and what i have seen on there of her elektra is impressive as well...

but that ortrud, that ortrud ... it still makes my ears ache ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hagen: the fassbaender maid/offstage voice in frosch is actually in the munich live set from 1963 with borkh and fidi under keilberth, but nonetheless it is great to have such a token of the young fassbaender &#8211; but to have her as the amme would make my day&#8230;</p>
<p>when it comes to gwyneth, i too saw her ortrud in lohengrin at covent garden early in 1997 (it must have been february as i remember queueing for a last minute ticket/standing ticket outside when it was snowing &#8230; that was before they sold standing in advance and when one had to queue outside the opera house, gosh luckily things have changed since), which was the first time i came across her singing and even though she had a considerable stage prescence, i thought the singing per se was by far the worst i had ever heard so far. then i bought the lohengrin set under kubelik from 1971 (or 1969?) and i found her ortrud on there terrible as well. so for me that spoilt gwyneth for a long time.</p>
<p>i still don&#8217;t like her voice but have since heard her first operatic recital, which is very good indeed. but as i heard her giving vocally such an under par performance in lohengrin that really put me off her. so i personally always approach her with caution, but then i didnt see her live in her heyday. i dont like the studio recording that she made of Ã¤gyptische helena and i used to her her late wagner recital on chandos (which i resold very quickly) BUT her excerpts of the trovatore leonora on youtube are absolutely lovely and what i have seen on there of her elektra is impressive as well&#8230;</p>
<p>but that ortrud, that ortrud &#8230; it still makes my ears ache <img src='http://parterre.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hagen d'Arse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hagen d'Arse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thackeray - if only a recording of that Munich performance would surface. On the face of it not unlikely given the amount of broadcasting done from Munich over the years, but I would have snapped this up if I&#039;d seen it anywhere....

Or indeed any recording of Fassbaender as Die Amme! The only FrOSch evidence for her we have is as one of the maids/offstage voices - I think it&#039;s in the Karajan 1964 performances (the one where Popp is the Falcon/Guardian and Wunderlich the Apparition of a Young Man!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thackeray &#8211; if only a recording of that Munich performance would surface. On the face of it not unlikely given the amount of broadcasting done from Munich over the years, but I would have snapped this up if I&#8217;d seen it anywhere&#8230;.</p>
<p>Or indeed any recording of Fassbaender as Die Amme! The only FrOSch evidence for her we have is as one of the maids/offstage voices &#8211; I think it&#8217;s in the Karajan 1964 performances (the one where Popp is the Falcon/Guardian and Wunderlich the Apparition of a Young Man!!)</p>
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		<title>By: Graciella Scusi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graciella Scusi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t resist slipping into my anecdotage to join
in the chorus of praise for Dame Gwyneth, whom I
feel privileged to have seen in so many memorable performances in New York and San Francisco...
specific dates escape me, but there was a period in the late &#039;80s-early &#039;90s when she was often in splendid form....a Ring cycle at the Met, her definitive Farberin with Dohnanyi and a towering
Elektra with Thielemann (his American debut, I think) in San Francisco...such an amazing confluence of gifts : a beautiful woman, a charismatic performer, that enormous voice which
yes, could be unruly or unresponsive, but at it&#039;s best effortlessly encompassed the heroic and the
womanly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t resist slipping into my anecdotage to join<br />
in the chorus of praise for Dame Gwyneth, whom I<br />
feel privileged to have seen in so many memorable performances in New York and San Francisco&#8230;<br />
specific dates escape me, but there was a period in the late &#8217;80s-early &#8217;90s when she was often in splendid form&#8230;.a Ring cycle at the Met, her definitive Farberin with Dohnanyi and a towering<br />
Elektra with Thielemann (his American debut, I think) in San Francisco&#8230;such an amazing confluence of gifts : a beautiful woman, a charismatic performer, that enormous voice which<br />
yes, could be unruly or unresponsive, but at it&#8217;s best effortlessly encompassed the heroic and the<br />
womanly.</p>
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		<title>By: Thackeray Gnomey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thackeray Gnomey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This will make a couple of earlier posters jealous ...

I saw a FroSch in Munich in 1988 with Studer, Gwyneth and Fassbaender. Can&#039;t remember who the men were, I have to confess, which is a bit shameful, because Barak is a role I&#039;d love to sing if I had the voice for it.

And I saw that Covent Garden Arabella with Popp and Weikl, which was one of my greatest operatic evenings ever. I was snivelling away at the end. Popp might have been a wee bit on the light side vocally for Arabella, and a wee bit on the round and saftig side physically, but who cares? She had such soul and spirit. (Having since seen Mattila in the flesh as Arabella, and Renee on DVD, I realise that Popplet has ruined it for me for ever - it&#039;s hard to love either of those two gals, admirable though they can be in different ways.) And I doubt Weikl could be bettered as Mandryka. He picked her up and swung her round at the end and it was completely heartwarming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will make a couple of earlier posters jealous &#8230;</p>
<p>I saw a FroSch in Munich in 1988 with Studer, Gwyneth and Fassbaender. Can&#8217;t remember who the men were, I have to confess, which is a bit shameful, because Barak is a role I&#8217;d love to sing if I had the voice for it.</p>
<p>And I saw that Covent Garden Arabella with Popp and Weikl, which was one of my greatest operatic evenings ever. I was snivelling away at the end. Popp might have been a wee bit on the light side vocally for Arabella, and a wee bit on the round and saftig side physically, but who cares? She had such soul and spirit. (Having since seen Mattila in the flesh as Arabella, and Renee on DVD, I realise that Popplet has ruined it for me for ever &#8211; it&#8217;s hard to love either of those two gals, admirable though they can be in different ways.) And I doubt Weikl could be bettered as Mandryka. He picked her up and swung her round at the end and it was completely heartwarming.</p>
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		<title>By: armerjacquino</title>
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		<dc:creator>armerjacquino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miley Cyrus has been suggested for various roles in the Celine Dion Callas biopic, in that thread.

Google ads strike again. I&#039;ve never seen so many disgusting recipes for Spam as on my gmail...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miley Cyrus has been suggested for various roles in the Celine Dion Callas biopic, in that thread.</p>
<p>Google ads strike again. I&#8217;ve never seen so many disgusting recipes for Spam as on my gmail&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PushedUpMezzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>PushedUpMezzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love that &quot;weird built-in luminescence&quot; remark
Had no idea that the secret of success was a battery charger
Why is there a Google ad for a Miley Cyrus quiz right below this erudite correspondence? Surely not a late entry in the Helena stakes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love that &#8220;weird built-in luminescence&#8221; remark<br />
Had no idea that the secret of success was a battery charger<br />
Why is there a Google ad for a Miley Cyrus quiz right below this erudite correspondence? Surely not a late entry in the Helena stakes?</p>
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		<title>By: Grimgerde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grimgerde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m coming over all nostalgic at these postings; my operatic early years were late 70&#039;s and early 80&#039;s, and would add to the great experiences of meremarie and armerj, most of which I witnessed, with...Werther with Von Stade and Carerras, Boccanegra with Kiri and Milnes, Fanciulla with Neblett and Domingo, Lohengrin with Kollo and Randova, Grimes with Vickers. Popp and Bailey (replacing Sotin) in Meistersinger. And of course, Gwyneth as Brunnhilde - the cast also had Linda Esther Gray as Sieglinde and Anne Evans as Freia and Gutrune; I am quite certain that Gwyneth sang Sieglinde in one of the cycles, with Lindholm as Brunnhilde. Gwyneth was quite uneven until Gotterdammerung, where she was astounding - her singing at the end of act two was almost animal-like, and I still get a lump in my throat thinking about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m coming over all nostalgic at these postings; my operatic early years were late 70&#8242;s and early 80&#8242;s, and would add to the great experiences of meremarie and armerj, most of which I witnessed, with&#8230;Werther with Von Stade and Carerras, Boccanegra with Kiri and Milnes, Fanciulla with Neblett and Domingo, Lohengrin with Kollo and Randova, Grimes with Vickers. Popp and Bailey (replacing Sotin) in Meistersinger. And of course, Gwyneth as Brunnhilde &#8211; the cast also had Linda Esther Gray as Sieglinde and Anne Evans as Freia and Gutrune; I am quite certain that Gwyneth sang Sieglinde in one of the cycles, with Lindholm as Brunnhilde. Gwyneth was quite uneven until Gotterdammerung, where she was astounding &#8211; her singing at the end of act two was almost animal-like, and I still get a lump in my throat thinking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: armerjacquino</title>
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		<dc:creator>armerjacquino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freni, like Ricciarelli, is someone who was asked by Karajan to sing parts for which her voice really wasn&#039;t suited. She gets through Aida and Don Carlo through sheer weight of artistry, but for the roster to be &#039;unsurpassed&#039; he would have needed a true lirico-spinto in the parts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freni, like Ricciarelli, is someone who was asked by Karajan to sing parts for which her voice really wasn&#8217;t suited. She gets through Aida and Don Carlo through sheer weight of artistry, but for the roster to be &#8216;unsurpassed&#8217; he would have needed a true lirico-spinto in the parts.</p>
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		<title>By: Scaramuccio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scaramuccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, what a pity it wasn&#039;t Dame G on the Sawallisch set - orchestrally it&#039;s much the best of the pack, and the sound is as transparent as WS&#039;s conducting, but it&#039;s let down by Vinzing and Muff (a very funny Ochs and Waldner, by the way).

For the record, I came into live opera - after a few Coli experiences with singers a certain man of the cloth would justifiably mock - via Joanie (remember the box of eggs?) Unfortunately Maria Stuarda made me see that her glory and the rep she sang didn&#039;t quite match up, so I was off to hear Behrens in Salome and realised that was where my heart really rested. Now I&#039;ll listen to a really artistic singer like Dessay or Miricioiu in duff-as-old-Donizetti with pleasure.

Freni was still around then but I can&#039;t believe the Verdi roster for Karajan which included her, Carreras, Baltsa, Cappucilli, Raimondi, Domingo etc, and which needless to say I never experienced in the flesh, has ever been surpassed. I have great hopes for Harteros and Kaufman, though, and Gheorghiu on a really good night - that hasn&#039;t happened for me since La Rondine, pure star charisma - can (could?) be something.

Agreed, CK, Brewer is almost Margaret Price, but not quite. Maybe they shouldn&#039;t be compared. Christine&#039;s Isolde, done an act a week/month at the Barbican, was unforgettable but doesn&#039;t quite translate to CD. I don&#039;t think Dame G ever did, quite, survive the leap from that weird built-in luminescence you got live to the cordons of recording.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, what a pity it wasn&#8217;t Dame G on the Sawallisch set &#8211; orchestrally it&#8217;s much the best of the pack, and the sound is as transparent as WS&#8217;s conducting, but it&#8217;s let down by Vinzing and Muff (a very funny Ochs and Waldner, by the way).</p>
<p>For the record, I came into live opera &#8211; after a few Coli experiences with singers a certain man of the cloth would justifiably mock &#8211; via Joanie (remember the box of eggs?) Unfortunately Maria Stuarda made me see that her glory and the rep she sang didn&#8217;t quite match up, so I was off to hear Behrens in Salome and realised that was where my heart really rested. Now I&#8217;ll listen to a really artistic singer like Dessay or Miricioiu in duff-as-old-Donizetti with pleasure.</p>
<p>Freni was still around then but I can&#8217;t believe the Verdi roster for Karajan which included her, Carreras, Baltsa, Cappucilli, Raimondi, Domingo etc, and which needless to say I never experienced in the flesh, has ever been surpassed. I have great hopes for Harteros and Kaufman, though, and Gheorghiu on a really good night &#8211; that hasn&#8217;t happened for me since La Rondine, pure star charisma &#8211; can (could?) be something.</p>
<p>Agreed, CK, Brewer is almost Margaret Price, but not quite. Maybe they shouldn&#8217;t be compared. Christine&#8217;s Isolde, done an act a week/month at the Barbican, was unforgettable but doesn&#8217;t quite translate to CD. I don&#8217;t think Dame G ever did, quite, survive the leap from that weird built-in luminescence you got live to the cordons of recording.</p>
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		<title>By: High C's @ 4:20</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If its that Rebecca Evans was freaking delightful, that is correct...</description>
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		<title>By: High C's @ 4:20</title>
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		<dc:creator>High C's @ 4:20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what would Krunoslav have to say??? Im sure you can tell us.</description>
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		<title>By: Cocky Kurwenal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cocky Kurwenal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krunoslav would have something to say about that second Fledermaus, High C&#039;s!</description>
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		<title>By: armerjacquino</title>
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		<dc:creator>armerjacquino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CockyK- I&#039;m only 5 years older than you but was lucky enough to get into opera young enough to see some really special singers at CG. Janowitz as Ariadne, Cotrubas as Violetta and Tatyana, Freni as Tatyana, Randova as the Kostelnicka, Ricciarelli and Baltsa in Don Carlo, Walter Berry in Cosi...

My big regret was giving up my ticket to see Popp as Arabella. I never saw her in opera but did see her do Frauenliebe und Leben at the Wigmore Hall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CockyK- I&#8217;m only 5 years older than you but was lucky enough to get into opera young enough to see some really special singers at CG. Janowitz as Ariadne, Cotrubas as Violetta and Tatyana, Freni as Tatyana, Randova as the Kostelnicka, Ricciarelli and Baltsa in Don Carlo, Walter Berry in Cosi&#8230;</p>
<p>My big regret was giving up my ticket to see Popp as Arabella. I never saw her in opera but did see her do Frauenliebe und Leben at the Wigmore Hall.</p>
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		<title>By: High C's @ 4:20</title>
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		<dc:creator>High C's @ 4:20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was an as of yet uninterested first timer, started 20 years later in 1999, in Dallas:

Boheme     Hong, Leech Mills
Sam/Dal    Redmon, Baker
Clem/Tito  Maguire, vonStade, Jepson, RCroft
Walkure    Charbonnet, Ginzer, Morris, Forbis
Fledermaus Esperian, Grissom, Guzman, Gilfrey, Welborn
Fledermaus Lott, REvans, Castle, Allen, Bottone  (CHICAGO)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was an as of yet uninterested first timer, started 20 years later in 1999, in Dallas:</p>
<p>Boheme     Hong, Leech Mills<br />
Sam/Dal    Redmon, Baker<br />
Clem/Tito  Maguire, vonStade, Jepson, RCroft<br />
Walkure    Charbonnet, Ginzer, Morris, Forbis<br />
Fledermaus Esperian, Grissom, Guzman, Gilfrey, Welborn<br />
Fledermaus Lott, REvans, Castle, Allen, Bottone  (CHICAGO)</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Lehar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Lehar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Dame Gwyneth had been used on the Sawallisch FRAU, well, let&#039;s just say I am swooning at the thought.  That is a lost opportunity if ever there were one. 

And I love that Vienna Dalibor, with the Rysanek sisters banging out successive full-voiced high Bs in the first act.  Very exciting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Dame Gwyneth had been used on the Sawallisch FRAU, well, let&#8217;s just say I am swooning at the thought.  That is a lost opportunity if ever there were one. </p>
<p>And I love that Vienna Dalibor, with the Rysanek sisters banging out successive full-voiced high Bs in the first act.  Very exciting.</p>
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		<title>By: meremarie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a music student in 79, and my first trips to the royal opera house were - roughly in order -
Boheme - Carlos Kleiber, with Cotrubas and Carreras
Otello - Carlos Kleiber, Domingo, Margaret Price
L&#039;africaine with Bumbry
Macbeth -  Scotto, Bruson and Muti
Tosca - Shirley Verrett
Tristan - Vickers and Gwyneth

it&#039;s not surprising that I can&#039;t help a slight feeling of anticlimax when I go to the opera these days.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a music student in 79, and my first trips to the royal opera house were &#8211; roughly in order -<br />
Boheme &#8211; Carlos Kleiber, with Cotrubas and Carreras<br />
Otello &#8211; Carlos Kleiber, Domingo, Margaret Price<br />
L&#8217;africaine with Bumbry<br />
Macbeth &#8211;  Scotto, Bruson and Muti<br />
Tosca &#8211; Shirley Verrett<br />
Tristan &#8211; Vickers and Gwyneth</p>
<p>it&#8217;s not surprising that I can&#8217;t help a slight feeling of anticlimax when I go to the opera these days&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cocky Kurwenal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cocky Kurwenal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really only when talking about opera that I start to feel young - I shall be 30 next year.  But I do feel a little bereft - compare what I&#039;ve been able to see in the last 15 years with what went on 15 years before that.  I like Mattila and Fleming, but the single greatest and most memorable performance I have ever seen was Freni at the Met as Fedora in Autumn 1996, within the first couple of years of my interest in opera.  That was obviously extremely late in the game for Freni, but boy am I glad I got to experience that - the real deal from every point of view, as far as I&#039;m concerned.  And many talk as if going to the opera was always like that.  On the one hand I can&#039;t stand it when people go on and on about how opera isn&#039;t what it used to be, there are no great voices anymore, etc etc, but on the other hand, I have a sneaking suspicion they are right.  Even somebody like Christine Brewer, who most people are consistently enthusiastic about, doesn&#039;t have the vocal allure or glamour of those ladies who were doing her repertoire in the mid-20th Century, impressive though she is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really only when talking about opera that I start to feel young &#8211; I shall be 30 next year.  But I do feel a little bereft &#8211; compare what I&#8217;ve been able to see in the last 15 years with what went on 15 years before that.  I like Mattila and Fleming, but the single greatest and most memorable performance I have ever seen was Freni at the Met as Fedora in Autumn 1996, within the first couple of years of my interest in opera.  That was obviously extremely late in the game for Freni, but boy am I glad I got to experience that &#8211; the real deal from every point of view, as far as I&#8217;m concerned.  And many talk as if going to the opera was always like that.  On the one hand I can&#8217;t stand it when people go on and on about how opera isn&#8217;t what it used to be, there are no great voices anymore, etc etc, but on the other hand, I have a sneaking suspicion they are right.  Even somebody like Christine Brewer, who most people are consistently enthusiastic about, doesn&#8217;t have the vocal allure or glamour of those ladies who were doing her repertoire in the mid-20th Century, impressive though she is.</p>
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		<title>By: Scaramuccio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scaramuccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Hagen d&#039;Arse, now you really have invoked the dog-collared spirit of darkness with Anne Evans - but yes, she was rather incandescent then. Pauline Tinsley did a steely Dyer&#039;s Wife, and of course no-one will ever be nobler than Norm as Barak.

The production was economical for the tour but haunted the memory. The Hockney-designed show was a bit of a mess - some great sets, some horrid (the Pavilion scene), clashing with the bad costumes which DH should have designed.

Cocky, you make me feel old - now I really am going into reminiscence mode. And I thought only seeing Birgit at 62 in a Prom, and never having caught Barbirolli, Klemperer or Boult - thrice the brindled cat hath mewed, spawn of Satan - made me a young &#039;un.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Hagen d&#8217;Arse, now you really have invoked the dog-collared spirit of darkness with Anne Evans &#8211; but yes, she was rather incandescent then. Pauline Tinsley did a steely Dyer&#8217;s Wife, and of course no-one will ever be nobler than Norm as Barak.</p>
<p>The production was economical for the tour but haunted the memory. The Hockney-designed show was a bit of a mess &#8211; some great sets, some horrid (the Pavilion scene), clashing with the bad costumes which DH should have designed.</p>
<p>Cocky, you make me feel old &#8211; now I really am going into reminiscence mode. And I thought only seeing Birgit at 62 in a Prom, and never having caught Barbirolli, Klemperer or Boult &#8211; thrice the brindled cat hath mewed, spawn of Satan &#8211; made me a young &#8216;un.</p>
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		<title>By: Cocky Kurwenal</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/25/soaring-instruments/comment-page-6/#comment-25764</link>
		<dc:creator>Cocky Kurwenal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Alice In Wonderland DVD has just come out, so I&#039;ll be getting it.  I love her Begbick from Salzburg too.

I have the CD of that Elektra - it is the best I&#039;ve heard Anne Evans, but I&#039;m not really a fan of her.  Rysanek is, of course, sensational.

Ever seen Gwyneth as Isolde?  I read her saying she felt it was the one role she was born to play (something to do with Isolde and Gwyneth both meaning &#039;the white one&#039; in some languages or other), but I&#039;ve always thought it was the one role she was a bit wrong for.  Too much precision required, in terms of both pitch and rhythm - never Gwyneth&#039;s strong point, having always done things in her own sweet time and always with her generous vibrato...  I&#039;ll bet it was exciting live though.  I&#039;ve heard a rumour that the Royal Opera has her from the early 80s opposite Jon Vickers - I hope it makes it to their Heritage series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Alice In Wonderland DVD has just come out, so I&#8217;ll be getting it.  I love her Begbick from Salzburg too.</p>
<p>I have the CD of that Elektra &#8211; it is the best I&#8217;ve heard Anne Evans, but I&#8217;m not really a fan of her.  Rysanek is, of course, sensational.</p>
<p>Ever seen Gwyneth as Isolde?  I read her saying she felt it was the one role she was born to play (something to do with Isolde and Gwyneth both meaning &#8216;the white one&#8217; in some languages or other), but I&#8217;ve always thought it was the one role she was a bit wrong for.  Too much precision required, in terms of both pitch and rhythm &#8211; never Gwyneth&#8217;s strong point, having always done things in her own sweet time and always with her generous vibrato&#8230;  I&#8217;ll bet it was exciting live though.  I&#8217;ve heard a rumour that the Royal Opera has her from the early 80s opposite Jon Vickers &#8211; I hope it makes it to their Heritage series.</p>
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		<title>By: Amnerees</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2008/08/25/soaring-instruments/comment-page-6/#comment-25762</link>
		<dc:creator>Amnerees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to chime in so late, La Cieca, but I have to say these clips were so wonderful to hear and the visual editing was beautiful. For once, I identified almost all of them. I thought Rose Pauly was Welitch (with a little extra vibrato), but I don&#039;t know if she ever recorded this scene.

Two things: (1) Dame Gwynneth could be matchless on a good night, as you pointed out. I&#039;ll never forget her Turandot at Covent Garden in 1987. The best I ever heard (and I was a big Nilsson fan). I was at the performance of the BBC telecast and therefore missed the interview with Dame Eva Turner at intermission. Do you know if there&#039;s a copy out there? Then there were the &quot;good&quot; nights at Bayreuth (which unfortunately were not the ones that were recorded for the Cherault Ring). Her performance of Helen at Carnegie Hall was not one either. In fact, the good nights were infrequent ...

(2) Alessandra Marc sounds sensational here, but she never sounds like this in live performances, or the ones I&#039;ve been to anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to chime in so late, La Cieca, but I have to say these clips were so wonderful to hear and the visual editing was beautiful. For once, I identified almost all of them. I thought Rose Pauly was Welitch (with a little extra vibrato), but I don&#8217;t know if she ever recorded this scene.</p>
<p>Two things: (1) Dame Gwynneth could be matchless on a good night, as you pointed out. I&#8217;ll never forget her Turandot at Covent Garden in 1987. The best I ever heard (and I was a big Nilsson fan). I was at the performance of the BBC telecast and therefore missed the interview with Dame Eva Turner at intermission. Do you know if there&#8217;s a copy out there? Then there were the &#8220;good&#8221; nights at Bayreuth (which unfortunately were not the ones that were recorded for the Cherault Ring). Her performance of Helen at Carnegie Hall was not one either. In fact, the good nights were infrequent &#8230;</p>
<p>(2) Alessandra Marc sounds sensational here, but she never sounds like this in live performances, or the ones I&#8217;ve been to anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Hagen d'Arse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hagen d'Arse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t see Alice in Wonderland but I&#039;ve heard a tape - Jones is brilliant -  no-one else but Gwyneth at 75 would work in that role!

That Welsh FrOSch also features Anne Evans as the Empress - very nice indeed as I recall (as is her Chrys to Jones&#039; Elektra on the 1990 Geneva Cd with Rysanek&#039;s Klyt) - must dig the tape out again....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see Alice in Wonderland but I&#8217;ve heard a tape &#8211; Jones is brilliant &#8211;  no-one else but Gwyneth at 75 would work in that role!</p>
<p>That Welsh FrOSch also features Anne Evans as the Empress &#8211; very nice indeed as I recall (as is her Chrys to Jones&#8217; Elektra on the 1990 Geneva Cd with Rysanek&#8217;s Klyt) &#8211; must dig the tape out again&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cocky Kurwenal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cocky Kurwenal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very jealous of all those who have seen her live.  I only managed a Lohengrin at the ROH in something like 1996.  I wish I&#039;d known the opera better before I had seen it.  Still, glad I caught her.  It&#039;s the only time I&#039;ve seen the ROH organise for people to throw roses at the curtain calls.  Seemed to happen all the time in the good old days.  

Kicking myself for not going to Alice in Wonderland last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very jealous of all those who have seen her live.  I only managed a Lohengrin at the ROH in something like 1996.  I wish I&#8217;d known the opera better before I had seen it.  Still, glad I caught her.  It&#8217;s the only time I&#8217;ve seen the ROH organise for people to throw roses at the curtain calls.  Seemed to happen all the time in the good old days.  </p>
<p>Kicking myself for not going to Alice in Wonderland last year.</p>
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