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		<title>gregory winnaker commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregory winnaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How exited you must be -- how proud of your investigative journalism! Oh, how superior, how knowledgeable... indeed, why does the NYT not fire Holland and hire you? 

Perhaps because an anonymous hack and his or her blog are not quite up to the challenge either? And critiquing a few howlers in an otherwise astounding output of quality writing of someone else does not qualify?

At least we can sleep safely that &quot;La Cieca&quot; keeps taps on the powers that be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How exited you must be &#8212; how proud of your investigative journalism! Oh, how superior, how knowledgeable&#8230; indeed, why does the NYT not fire Holland and hire you? </p>
<p>Perhaps because an anonymous hack and his or her blog are not quite up to the challenge either? And critiquing a few howlers in an otherwise astounding output of quality writing of someone else does not qualify?</p>
<p>At least we can sleep safely that &#8220;La Cieca&#8221; keeps taps on the powers that be.</p>
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		<title>Gabor commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œThe errors resulted from the reviewerâ€™s confusion over his notes.â€

... as well as some serious gender confusion issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œThe errors resulted from the reviewerâ€™s confusion over his notes.â€</p>
<p>&#8230; as well as some serious gender confusion issues.</p>
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		<title>operamaven commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>operamaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mea culpa!  Even after the Times correction, I felt that I needed to confirm that it was Millo and not Blythe.  Called OONY.  It was, in fact, Millo (though &quot;unwell&quot;--perhaps on meds that make her assume Blythe-like proportions).  Time to get my eyes checked!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mea culpa!  Even after the Times correction, I felt that I needed to confirm that it was Millo and not Blythe.  Called OONY.  It was, in fact, Millo (though &#8220;unwell&#8221;&#8211;perhaps on meds that make her assume Blythe-like proportions).  Time to get my eyes checked!</p>
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		<title>rysanekfreak commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>rysanekfreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they now admit he&#039;s a reviewer, not a critic.</description>
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		<title>Raro commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/08/arts/music/08quel.html?ref=music

Correction! Apparently &quot;The errors resulted from the reviewerâ€™s confusion over his notes.&quot;

.....yes.</description>
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<p>Correction! Apparently &#8220;The errors resulted from the reviewerâ€™s confusion over his notes.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;..yes.</p>
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		<title>Gianni commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gianni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just received word that &quot;the bearded baritone&quot; Stephen Gaertner (occasionally mistaked as Dolora Zajick depending on the reviewer) will be interviewed on Sirius radio during one of the the intermissions of Lucia di Lamermoor on Thursday evening March 20th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just received word that &#8220;the bearded baritone&#8221; Stephen Gaertner (occasionally mistaked as Dolora Zajick depending on the reviewer) will be interviewed on Sirius radio during one of the the intermissions of Lucia di Lamermoor on Thursday evening March 20th.</p>
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		<title>Sanford commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And TT strikes again in his article about Van Cliburn in yesterday&#039;s Arts section. I was shocked (SHOCKED, I TELL YOU) to discover that Mr. Cliburn shares a house with a &quot;long time friend&quot;. Whatever could that mean, I ask sarcastically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And TT strikes again in his article about Van Cliburn in yesterday&#8217;s Arts section. I was shocked (SHOCKED, I TELL YOU) to discover that Mr. Cliburn shares a house with a &#8220;long time friend&#8221;. Whatever could that mean, I ask sarcastically.</p>
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		<title>Jay commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since TT is always fluffing male singers in print, it IS great that La C is ruffling the NY Times!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since TT is always fluffing male singers in print, it IS great that La C is ruffling the NY Times!!</p>
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		<title>CrewMantle commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>CrewMantle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cieca,

I am pleased that you are ruffling the New York Times. The Times looks just ridiculous. How can they expect to maintain any level of influence within the arts given this shabby reportage? They act like nobodies. Soon enough, it will not be confined to the internet; these things do have a way of taking on a life of their own. And rightfully so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cieca,</p>
<p>I am pleased that you are ruffling the New York Times. The Times looks just ridiculous. How can they expect to maintain any level of influence within the arts given this shabby reportage? They act like nobodies. Soon enough, it will not be confined to the internet; these things do have a way of taking on a life of their own. And rightfully so.</p>
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		<title>Jay commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Atomic Wings post, let&#039;s have an Opera with a Scarlet &quot;A&quot;? thread. (I&#039;m talking about characters, not real-life singers...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Atomic Wings post, let&#8217;s have an Opera with a Scarlet &#8220;A&#8221;? thread. (I&#8217;m talking about characters, not real-life singers&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>Jfmurray3 commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jfmurray3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parigi Times:  Prior to her encounter with a Mr. Germont, Ms. Violetta V has acknowledged entertaining a certain Client 9.   When asked by FBI agents to identify her most recent trysts, she burst into song: &quot;Albany, Alfredo&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parigi Times:  Prior to her encounter with a Mr. Germont, Ms. Violetta V has acknowledged entertaining a certain Client 9.   When asked by FBI agents to identify her most recent trysts, she burst into song: &#8220;Albany, Alfredo&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Momentous commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Momentous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it was the Norma duet with Gail Gilmore as Agdalgisa and Anita Bryant stepping in for Aprile Millo?  Wait am I getting prior posts and old reruns of the Lawrence Welk Show crossed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it was the Norma duet with Gail Gilmore as Agdalgisa and Anita Bryant stepping in for Aprile Millo?  Wait am I getting prior posts and old reruns of the Lawrence Welk Show crossed?</p>
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		<title>Atomic Wings commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atomic Wings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New York Times: Governor Spitzer caught in Norma duet with Aprile Millo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New York Times: Governor Spitzer caught in Norma duet with Aprile Millo.</p>
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		<title>Matthew commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul (#24): On the other hand, we forgave Harry because he really did love baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul (#24): On the other hand, we forgave Harry because he really did love baseball.</p>
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		<title>James Bodge commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Bodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never trusted Harold Schonberg at the NY Times, and often found him very thick on the subject of opera.  His low point was a 1971 review of a new TRISTAN at the MET - fabulously designed by Schneider-Siemsenn and appropriately staged by August Everding.  Nilsson in particular was terrific, and Jess Thomas more than held up his end. Schonberg was enormously impressed by the staging - but attributed the entire production to the designer, as if a stage director didn&#039;t exist.  And he did so more than once during the review.

Rothstein got kicked upstairs when his 1992 review of a new ELEKTRA praised Behrens to the sky.  The poor woman had been in distress the entire performance, and withdrew from the run, leaving the remaining performances to her standby.  All other reviews either mentioned her poor vocalism or drew a veil of polite silence in respect of a valued artist having a bad time of it.  Rothstein didn&#039;t know the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never trusted Harold Schonberg at the NY Times, and often found him very thick on the subject of opera.  His low point was a 1971 review of a new TRISTAN at the MET &#8211; fabulously designed by Schneider-Siemsenn and appropriately staged by August Everding.  Nilsson in particular was terrific, and Jess Thomas more than held up his end. Schonberg was enormously impressed by the staging &#8211; but attributed the entire production to the designer, as if a stage director didn&#8217;t exist.  And he did so more than once during the review.</p>
<p>Rothstein got kicked upstairs when his 1992 review of a new ELEKTRA praised Behrens to the sky.  The poor woman had been in distress the entire performance, and withdrew from the run, leaving the remaining performances to her standby.  All other reviews either mentioned her poor vocalism or drew a veil of polite silence in respect of a valued artist having a bad time of it.  Rothstein didn&#8217;t know the difference.</p>
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		<title>iltenoredigrazia commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>iltenoredigrazia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sort of errors have been appearing on the NYT for quite a few years now.   Henahan, Bernard Holland, and Midgette have all written blatant mistakes through the years.   Actually, I still think that Henahan holds the record.   He was awful.   In my lifetime I can only think of two NYT reporters that I could trust: Bill Crutchfield and Harold Schonberg.

Along a similar line:  Just a week ago Midgette&#039;s obituary of Giussepe diStefano on The Washington Post started by saying that DiStefano was primarily known for his recitals with Maria Callas.    This tells me that she knows just about nothing about recent operatic history or about DiStefano himself.   DiStefano was a world-leading tenor years before Callas hit the international scene and for some years his was one of the truly glorious voices of the Century.    If the tenor&#039;s and soprano&#039;s names are linked in the public image, it&#039;s because of the many recordings that they made together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sort of errors have been appearing on the NYT for quite a few years now.   Henahan, Bernard Holland, and Midgette have all written blatant mistakes through the years.   Actually, I still think that Henahan holds the record.   He was awful.   In my lifetime I can only think of two NYT reporters that I could trust: Bill Crutchfield and Harold Schonberg.</p>
<p>Along a similar line:  Just a week ago Midgette&#8217;s obituary of Giussepe diStefano on The Washington Post started by saying that DiStefano was primarily known for his recitals with Maria Callas.    This tells me that she knows just about nothing about recent operatic history or about DiStefano himself.   DiStefano was a world-leading tenor years before Callas hit the international scene and for some years his was one of the truly glorious voices of the Century.    If the tenor&#8217;s and soprano&#8217;s names are linked in the public image, it&#8217;s because of the many recordings that they made together.</p>
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		<title>Jay commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile, TT describes Van Cliburn as sharing his Ft. Worth home &quot;with a longtime friend&quot; in TT&#039;s 3/9/08 piece about the pianist.  So every Sunday we are going to have a TT article that flits around the gay issue, as happened in last week&#039;s Kwiecien piece? Then during the week TT continues nuts all over the newsprint in his reviews of hunky male singers? NY Times music critics = pathetic losers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, TT describes Van Cliburn as sharing his Ft. Worth home &#8220;with a longtime friend&#8221; in TT&#8217;s 3/9/08 piece about the pianist.  So every Sunday we are going to have a TT article that flits around the gay issue, as happened in last week&#8217;s Kwiecien piece? Then during the week TT continues nuts all over the newsprint in his reviews of hunky male singers? NY Times music critics = pathetic losers!</p>
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		<title>Regina delle fate commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regina delle fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t it George Bernard Shaw who made the quip about critics and eunuchs in the harem? As a music critic himself, it makes the joke funnier. We have similar blunders over here: a recent review of Cynthia Lawrence and Joseph Wolverton in Tosca at the Royal Albert Hall praised their Verdian phrasing! And the same critic was lampooned in the satirical magazine Private Eye for complaining that the audience had applauded during Webern&#039;s Five Pieces for Orchestra, when, in fact, the short pieces had been played twice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t it George Bernard Shaw who made the quip about critics and eunuchs in the harem? As a music critic himself, it makes the joke funnier. We have similar blunders over here: a recent review of Cynthia Lawrence and Joseph Wolverton in Tosca at the Royal Albert Hall praised their Verdian phrasing! And the same critic was lampooned in the satirical magazine Private Eye for complaining that the audience had applauded during Webern&#8217;s Five Pieces for Orchestra, when, in fact, the short pieces had been played twice!</p>
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		<title>Starda Vanyra commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starda Vanyra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must be that alternate &quot;Mira, o Norma, dâ€™acerbe lagrime&quot;.
Che casino!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must be that alternate &#8220;Mira, o Norma, dâ€™acerbe lagrime&#8221;.<br />
Che casino!</p>
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		<title>Hans Lick commented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hans Lick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve all seen LOTS of evidence of it -- we just haven&#039;t smelled it on his breath, only in his prose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve all seen LOTS of evidence of it &#8212; we just haven&#8217;t smelled it on his breath, only in his prose.</p>
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