12 January 2008

Peacock, indeed!

Who said this?


Here's a hint:

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Anonymous Il tenore di coloratura superba said...

I almost feel silly to say it, but my first guess is Tetrazzini, based on the recording...but the writing style makes me think Melba; those two ladies of that time period being the most well-known to our modern selves.

There are some truly lovely things stylistically and interpretatively in the recording...a certain element of style that truly has been lost in today's world. I wish we younger singers could learn how to recapture that, but perhaps it is lost over so many generations.

January 12, 2008 2:09 AM  
Blogger Ruxton said...

Don't think its Tetrazzini ITDCS - I keep thinking its Melba too.

January 12, 2008 3:30 AM  
Blogger Ruxton said...

but on second thoughts its not- Melba was long before this one I think.

January 12, 2008 3:35 AM  
Anonymous Couturier said...

Bias cut ... Isn't that more suitable for the slimmer figure?
Mary Garden?

January 12, 2008 4:32 AM  
Anonymous truesinging said...

This is the great Muzio if I am not mistaken. The most special and heartfelt voice of them all. Brava Claudia!

January 12, 2008 4:33 AM  
Anonymous Nerva Nelli said...

Nelson Eddy.

January 12, 2008 4:48 AM  
Anonymous arepo said...

I too thought Muzio the minute I heard it.

January 12, 2008 9:47 AM  
Blogger ItalianainBristol said...

Well, I've checked many recordings of that period and don't think I found the right one. Melba it isn't as she never, in any of her many recorded versions of the pice, stresses "sola" on the last sillable "solA'" like in this version. Alos, I agree the she didn't cut a particularly slim figure! Nor am I convinced it is Muzio ( a likely candidate though she is), nor Farrar, Bori, Favero, Garden, Moore, Gluck. Maybe it's Kurz, but I have no recording of her... I'm sure some of the incredibly knowledgeable contributors will tell us soon...

January 12, 2008 9:54 AM  
Blogger rysanekfreak said...

I vote Alma Gluck.

January 12, 2008 10:44 AM  
Blogger JATM2063 said...

It sounds like something that either Farrar or Garden would have said. It could also be Melba.

January 12, 2008 10:45 AM  
Blogger Lisa Hirsch said...

Frances Alda.

January 12, 2008 11:09 AM  
Blogger Mikebench said...

Come on, guys! You need to study your classics better... LOL This has *got* to be Frances Alda and an excerpt from her AMAZING book, "Men, Women and Tenors"... She certainly was not a boring singer! And you haven't lived until you have heard her sing "Amor, celeste ebbrezza" from Catalani's "Loreley".

January 12, 2008 11:18 AM  
Blogger Lisa Hirsch said...

Yep. Alda was a wonderful singer, one of my favorite sopranos of the acoustic era (along with Tetrazzini and Bori). Her whole memoir has just that teasing tone, and she's not at all coy about who she was sleeping with.

January 12, 2008 11:33 AM  
Anonymous iltenoredigrazia said...

Took two notes, Muzio for sure. One of her earliest recordings.

January 12, 2008 11:43 AM  
Blogger Sanford said...

I'm seconding (thirding... fourthing) the Frances Alda. There's a Miserere on iTunes that sounds just like her.

January 12, 2008 11:51 AM  
Anonymous Little Stevie said...

Definitely Frances Alda.

January 12, 2008 11:51 AM  
Blogger armerjaquino said...

Whoever it is, it certainly isn't Muzio- she didn't publish a book as far as I know, and if she had, I doubt it would read like that.

I'm in the Alda camp.

January 12, 2008 12:46 PM  
Blogger armerjaquino said...

And- listening to it again- I don't think it's the work of a native Italian speaker. Certainly not one who used the words with as much bite as Muzio did.

January 12, 2008 12:50 PM  
Blogger ItalianainBristol said...

Lisa Hirsh, I agree, I think you've got it! Frances Alda! It certainly is not sung by a native Italian singer, the voice isn't great and the fraseggio sloppy... so "Kiri's auntie" it is!?

January 12, 2008 1:07 PM  
Blogger oliviagiovetti said...

Renaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. I knew she was lying about her age.

http://cultureonthecheap.wordpress.com

January 12, 2008 2:51 PM  
Blogger rysanekfreak said...

I'm such a fool. Alma///Alda.

I thought I was saying Frances Alda, but I typed Alma Gluck. Yes, Frances Alda.

January 12, 2008 3:15 PM  
Anonymous orestes said...

It is Alda, from her memoire.

January 12, 2008 3:56 PM  
Blogger La Cieca said...

It is indeed the very frank voice (literary as well as musical) of Madame Frances Alda. The "Vionnet" story is from her book Men, Women and Tenors, an online version of which may be found here.

And here is the official site of the House of Vionnet.

January 12, 2008 5:04 PM  
Blogger mrs John Claggart said...

Of course, La Hersch is right. You can tell instantly from the Aussie accent, the rhythmic mistakes, and the 'whiteness' of the highest notes, which though full, are a little flat (she did not like to vibrate so she sounds 'under'). The handling of the final 'rancor' is also Alda, with that beautifully judged carrying of the tone without a 'swoop'. She had the most wonderful voice, and her earlier records are mostly gorgeous, even if she never got her Italian dead on.

I like some of her stories about Toscanini 'dropping by' for tea or baseball (!) and their dissing other singers. She was certainly man eater (!) enough to get him to come (over) but one wonders about the rest...

January 12, 2008 5:28 PM  
Anonymous Letch Feeley said...

I thought perhaps Melba but I know one of her recordings of Donde lieta and she would have scoffed at the technical "imperfections" of this singer. I wouldn't have thought of Muzio but after seeing comments from those with a more encyclopedic knowledge oof gofen age singers, I do remember reading that while she was very self-conscious about her height, she was a superb and knowledgeable clothes horse. If you don't know Muzio's recording of O del mio amato ben, it's to die for.

January 12, 2008 7:09 PM  
Blogger Lisa Hirsch said...

I knew who it was before I listened to the recording - I read a good chunk of Men, Women, and Tenors some years ago. I thought the voice much too bright and high-placed for Muzio and the style too warm for Melba. (Sorry! Her Puccini strikes me as chilly. One of those Great Operas at the Met sets has Melba's "Mi chiamo Mimi" right next to Bori's, and the difference in musicality and warmth is staggering.)

January 12, 2008 7:20 PM  
Blogger Ruxton said...

Mrs John.. sweet lady I dare to correct you- la Alda was every inch a Kiwi (from NZ born in Christchurch) and then moved to Melbourne in her teens I believe. As an NZer living in OZ I can tell you that there is a huge difference in the accents in this part of the world although to American ears perhaps they do sound similar (ouch). Kiwis clip their vowels horrendously- Aussies drawl out their words with an exaggerated "oi" sound on the "E"- it is also horrendous.
Aussies like to laugh at Kiwis because they think they are simple minded and parochial. Kiwi's like to laugh at Aussies because they think Aussies are brash, rude and lacking class.

Both Nationalities are correct. :) but we are still proud of our friendship.

January 13, 2008 1:32 AM  
Anonymous -Ed. said...

Bjork.

January 13, 2008 11:33 AM  
Anonymous ivankozlovsky said...

Don't forget that Alda got (married) Gatti, till he took up with an Italian ballerina.

January 13, 2008 7:48 PM  
Anonymous dcrazmo said...

Just saw "Die Mommie Die" this past weekend in which the faaaabulous Charles Busch orchestrated the same kind of effect with one of his costumes. The audience went wild, of course. You've got me thinking what a marvelous Tosca he'd make.

January 14, 2008 10:53 AM  

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