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		<title>By: Dale</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2007/09/30/lyons-share/comment-page-8/#comment-93382</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn&#039;t heard she had cancer.  I saw Ms. Swenson in La Traviata a few years ago at The Met in NY and she was brilliant.  Happy thoughts to her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t heard she had cancer.  I saw Ms. Swenson in La Traviata a few years ago at The Met in NY and she was brilliant.  Happy thoughts to her.</p>
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		<title>By: sugarmezzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>sugarmezzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an amazon link - sorry I&#039;m so spacey - haven&#039;t had coffee yet:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.amazon.com/Great-Singers-Singing-Interviews-Technique/dp/0879100257</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an amazon link &#8211; sorry I&#8217;m so spacey &#8211; haven&#8217;t had coffee yet:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Great-Singers-Singing-Interviews-Technique/dp/0879100257" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Great-Singers-Singing-Interviews-Technique/dp/0879100257</a></p>
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		<title>By: sugarmezzo</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2007/09/30/lyons-share/comment-page-8/#comment-92979</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe anyone is fighting about vocal technique on this site. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Great singers don&#039;t all agree on vocal technique. (even ones who all have it)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Jerome Hines wrote great singers on singing, or... well, it&#039;s something like that - I can&#039;t remember the title - but it&#039;s really interesting to read what a cross section of truly great artists has to say on singing technique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe anyone is fighting about vocal technique on this site. </p>
<p>Great singers don&#8217;t all agree on vocal technique. (even ones who all have it)</p>
<p>Jerome Hines wrote great singers on singing, or&#8230; well, it&#8217;s something like that &#8211; I can&#8217;t remember the title &#8211; but it&#8217;s really interesting to read what a cross section of truly great artists has to say on singing technique.</p>
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		<title>By: TKLogan11809</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 05:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RAS is not my favorite Stuarda and Tommasini not my favorite critic. But he was right about her Stuarda at Carnegie Hall. The sound was sublime. Caballé, and Gencer to an extent, have spoiled the role for me. I don&#039;t like Sutherland&#039;s recording except for the ensembles and Pavarotti.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sill&#039;s Stuarda is vulgar, filled with cheap and hollow high notes. I feel like I&#039;m shopping for a pair of Reeboks on Flatbush Avenue every time I listen to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RAS is not my favorite Stuarda and Tommasini not my favorite critic. But he was right about her Stuarda at Carnegie Hall. The sound was sublime. Caballé, and Gencer to an extent, have spoiled the role for me. I don&#8217;t like Sutherland&#8217;s recording except for the ensembles and Pavarotti.</p>
<p>Sill&#8217;s Stuarda is vulgar, filled with cheap and hollow high notes. I feel like I&#8217;m shopping for a pair of Reeboks on Flatbush Avenue every time I listen to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brightshadow</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2007/09/30/lyons-share/comment-page-8/#comment-92960</link>
		<dc:creator>Brightshadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. John, back to you. You certainly sent me on a memory lane of Trovatores. Alas, I never heard Carlo sing it, but he was my favorite Italian tenor bar none, and you have delineated precisely why. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I heard Dame Joan&#039;s first two Trovs in SF (or anywhere) with Pav and Wixell; only the Azucenas (Obrastsova and Verrett) were awake. Or one charitably assumes Ricky was asleep. At the time I wanted to stick a cattle prod in his butt, but he&#039;d just have enjoyed that. It was not a happy night for anyone. (Except me; I made a couple of lasting good friendships that evening.) &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My first Trov was Price, Bumbry, McCracken and Milnes; ten days later Arroyo, Dunn, Domingo, Bruson (Met debut). Mehta banged the bejeesus (okay, Ahura-Mazda) out of it. Who noticed the sets? The next year it was Caballe, Cossotto, Tucker, Merrill. Three years later I went again and finally noticed the production: yuck! (I suspect Di quella was transposed for ALL those performances, but I didn&#039;t care. High notes are like orgasms in sex -- it&#039;s a really nice part of it, but if that&#039;s all you&#039;re there for, you&#039;ve missed the point.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Considering that for years Trov was the first or second most popular stage piece on earth and had tens of thousands of productions, I am bewildered at the problems any house has in doing it justice today. It can&#039;t be THAT hard! Or can it?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The last time I heard a good one was in Prospect Park with June Anderson and Larissa Diadkova; I sat up front so as to get the voices not the reproduction, and bathed in wonderful sound, exemplary technique. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Leonora is a tricky role, and if Azucena doesn&#039;t steal the opera from her, you&#039;ve got a bad mezzo. (Price in her prime was, perhaps, another story.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- Hans Lick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. John, back to you. You certainly sent me on a memory lane of Trovatores. Alas, I never heard Carlo sing it, but he was my favorite Italian tenor bar none, and you have delineated precisely why. </p>
<p>I heard Dame Joan&#8217;s first two Trovs in SF (or anywhere) with Pav and Wixell; only the Azucenas (Obrastsova and Verrett) were awake. Or one charitably assumes Ricky was asleep. At the time I wanted to stick a cattle prod in his butt, but he&#8217;d just have enjoyed that. It was not a happy night for anyone. (Except me; I made a couple of lasting good friendships that evening.) </p>
<p>My first Trov was Price, Bumbry, McCracken and Milnes; ten days later Arroyo, Dunn, Domingo, Bruson (Met debut). Mehta banged the bejeesus (okay, Ahura-Mazda) out of it. Who noticed the sets? The next year it was Caballe, Cossotto, Tucker, Merrill. Three years later I went again and finally noticed the production: yuck! (I suspect Di quella was transposed for ALL those performances, but I didn&#8217;t care. High notes are like orgasms in sex &#8212; it&#8217;s a really nice part of it, but if that&#8217;s all you&#8217;re there for, you&#8217;ve missed the point.)</p>
<p>Considering that for years Trov was the first or second most popular stage piece on earth and had tens of thousands of productions, I am bewildered at the problems any house has in doing it justice today. It can&#8217;t be THAT hard! Or can it?</p>
<p>The last time I heard a good one was in Prospect Park with June Anderson and Larissa Diadkova; I sat up front so as to get the voices not the reproduction, and bathed in wonderful sound, exemplary technique. </p>
<p>Leonora is a tricky role, and if Azucena doesn&#8217;t steal the opera from her, you&#8217;ve got a bad mezzo. (Price in her prime was, perhaps, another story.)</p>
<p>- Hans Lick</p>
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		<title>By: Constantine A. Papas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constantine A. Papas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Balanabanov 11,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I never meant to be perceived as an expert on vocal techique. I merely stated certain facts based on anatomical and physiological givens, like lung capacity, exhaling, inhaling, diaphragm movements and vocal cord configuration. Nice chat anyway.</description>
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<p>I never meant to be perceived as an expert on vocal techique. I merely stated certain facts based on anatomical and physiological givens, like lung capacity, exhaling, inhaling, diaphragm movements and vocal cord configuration. Nice chat anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: balabanov11</title>
		<link>http://parterre.com/2007/09/30/lyons-share/comment-page-8/#comment-92943</link>
		<dc:creator>balabanov11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Constantine A Papas - &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thank you for your usual, long-winded response to my posts. In the interest of educating someone who is obviously a heartfelt opera fan, I will be direct here (as opposed to my previous attempt to lighten the mood with humor) - merely being an opera fan, or even being a non-ENT specialist Dr. who has looked at vocal cords,does in no way make you an expert on vocal technique, especially when speaking of the usage of the diaphragm. In this regard, you are as equally &quot;expert&quot; as Tommasini, who, having never even looked at a vocal cord (we can assume), has less ground to stand on than you. That is to what my comments were referring, and why your paragraph concerning the wonders of the soprano vocal cords was besides the point. It&#039;s lovely, although financially questionable, that you would close your practice just to go to the opera. That doesn&#039;t make you an expert on singing technique.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for you spelling mistakes, I&#039;m famous myself for them, so I&#039;ve got no problem with that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Note - I was at the NYCO &quot;gala&quot; last night - lots of empty seats, and a basically empty affair - Flanigan sang from Comte Ory, and it was typical - really fun, great performance, some passages much fleeter than expected, others yelped and screamed out, but she was a hoot and it was  good time. Miricioiu got a great ovation for truly horrible singing (the Robert aria from Robert le Diable (sp))- underpitch, yelled top, thin old-lady-ish middle, weak attempts at arpeggi. The only truly memorable voice was Meaghan Miller in a Taborro duet - really great full lyric voice with a terrific top. The rest was totally forgetable. This is their &#039;gala&#039;? They are in big trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Constantine A Papas &#8211; </p>
<p>Thank you for your usual, long-winded response to my posts. In the interest of educating someone who is obviously a heartfelt opera fan, I will be direct here (as opposed to my previous attempt to lighten the mood with humor) &#8211; merely being an opera fan, or even being a non-ENT specialist Dr. who has looked at vocal cords,does in no way make you an expert on vocal technique, especially when speaking of the usage of the diaphragm. In this regard, you are as equally &#8220;expert&#8221; as Tommasini, who, having never even looked at a vocal cord (we can assume), has less ground to stand on than you. That is to what my comments were referring, and why your paragraph concerning the wonders of the soprano vocal cords was besides the point. It&#8217;s lovely, although financially questionable, that you would close your practice just to go to the opera. That doesn&#8217;t make you an expert on singing technique.</p>
<p>As for you spelling mistakes, I&#8217;m famous myself for them, so I&#8217;ve got no problem with that.</p>
<p>Note &#8211; I was at the NYCO &#8220;gala&#8221; last night &#8211; lots of empty seats, and a basically empty affair &#8211; Flanigan sang from Comte Ory, and it was typical &#8211; really fun, great performance, some passages much fleeter than expected, others yelped and screamed out, but she was a hoot and it was  good time. Miricioiu got a great ovation for truly horrible singing (the Robert aria from Robert le Diable (sp))- underpitch, yelled top, thin old-lady-ish middle, weak attempts at arpeggi. The only truly memorable voice was Meaghan Miller in a Taborro duet &#8211; really great full lyric voice with a terrific top. The rest was totally forgetable. This is their &#8216;gala&#8217;? They are in big trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: JATM2063</title>
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		<dc:creator>JATM2063</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t American opera companies hire in the American soprano Ruth Ann Swenson to sing the roles that lazy Eastern European/Slav/Whatever Angela Georghiu can&#039;t show up to rehearse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t American opera companies hire in the American soprano Ruth Ann Swenson to sing the roles that lazy Eastern European/Slav/Whatever Angela Georghiu can&#8217;t show up to rehearse?</p>
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		<title>By: Perfidia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perfidia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swenson in Chicago doing Norina (at least on the radio) was heavenly. I wish she had stayed with those parts. I don&#039;t think she has the temperament for the big bel canto stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swenson in Chicago doing Norina (at least on the radio) was heavenly. I wish she had stayed with those parts. I don&#8217;t think she has the temperament for the big bel canto stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RAS as Maria Stuarda was extremely disappointing.  Clearly the role was beyond her, as she sounded strained throughout the entire opera.  &quot;Nella pace&quot; was pitiful (my grandmother could have done better), whilst the greta high notes of yore were sadly missing in the confrontation scene and the finale.  I&#039;m not saying that high notes alone are enough, but if the interpretative abilities of the leading lady are evidently in poor supply, why cast someone who is clearly past their best?  A substitute for Ciofi was indeed needed, but Swenson?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Adam (Paris)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RAS as Maria Stuarda was extremely disappointing.  Clearly the role was beyond her, as she sounded strained throughout the entire opera.  &#8220;Nella pace&#8221; was pitiful (my grandmother could have done better), whilst the greta high notes of yore were sadly missing in the confrontation scene and the finale.  I&#8217;m not saying that high notes alone are enough, but if the interpretative abilities of the leading lady are evidently in poor supply, why cast someone who is clearly past their best?  A substitute for Ciofi was indeed needed, but Swenson?</p>
<p>Adam (Paris)</p>
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		<title>By: mrs John Claggart</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrs John Claggart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why, Mr. Lick I am honored. Alas, I stood in line (I refuse to say I queued) all night for the Scotto/Pav/Verret Gavazzeni Trovatore and it was horrible on all counts. She sadly mainly gave a display of her dexterity on dwarf shoes, he was a porcheria disgraziata, and Shirley had lost her voice, simple as that. Poor Gav looked lost. I went back twice (!!!!!!!!) and it was worse!! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Luckily life went on and they all recovered (Shirley, perhaps, not so much)but that was an unlucky opera for Pav, I seem to recall a Marton Trovatore with him, after the run of which she fled New York, and was he in the Joan performance where Livia Budai was booed to the echo and with such force that Joan got upset (I think it was Pav)?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have only seen two great Manricos, Franco when I was in Junior High (I actually don&#039;t think he ever matched the three performances I bullied my father into taking me to that year -- fabulous enormous D flat but B&#039;s in the pira, no trill but GREAT infamia, infamia) and more or less the same period, Carlo, who trilled TWICE (and shocked me senseless since I was following with score and flashlight), phrased like an angel, mixed head and chest like a miracle and did a good pira too (B, but I heard him sing C&#039;s, and of course Franco would just pop them out when in the mood but not in Trov). McCracken believe it or not (when I was in the Opera Queen club in High School) got out two very loud high C&#039;s and carried on well but neither he nor the well equipped Tucker quite did it. I did see Bonisoli&#039;s circus act (real high C&#039;s too) and Domingo lower the pira far (but he actually stood and delivered the B flat to the audience rather than singing it into the wings or upstage, which was his usual trick) - and cracked.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Lee was the greatest Leonora for a few years, and Stella was part of a thrilling event -- Bergonzi, Simionato, Bastianini -- and in Philly Cerquetti and the greatest Irene Kramarach but after that it&#039;s hard to think of who? Millo maybe, I think it was one she went on for Marton and it all worked (an official video tape survives). Goodness, except for Zajick an impossible opera!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why, Mr. Lick I am honored. Alas, I stood in line (I refuse to say I queued) all night for the Scotto/Pav/Verret Gavazzeni Trovatore and it was horrible on all counts. She sadly mainly gave a display of her dexterity on dwarf shoes, he was a porcheria disgraziata, and Shirley had lost her voice, simple as that. Poor Gav looked lost. I went back twice (!!!!!!!!) and it was worse!! </p>
<p>Luckily life went on and they all recovered (Shirley, perhaps, not so much)but that was an unlucky opera for Pav, I seem to recall a Marton Trovatore with him, after the run of which she fled New York, and was he in the Joan performance where Livia Budai was booed to the echo and with such force that Joan got upset (I think it was Pav)?</p>
<p>I have only seen two great Manricos, Franco when I was in Junior High (I actually don&#8217;t think he ever matched the three performances I bullied my father into taking me to that year &#8212; fabulous enormous D flat but B&#8217;s in the pira, no trill but GREAT infamia, infamia) and more or less the same period, Carlo, who trilled TWICE (and shocked me senseless since I was following with score and flashlight), phrased like an angel, mixed head and chest like a miracle and did a good pira too (B, but I heard him sing C&#8217;s, and of course Franco would just pop them out when in the mood but not in Trov). McCracken believe it or not (when I was in the Opera Queen club in High School) got out two very loud high C&#8217;s and carried on well but neither he nor the well equipped Tucker quite did it. I did see Bonisoli&#8217;s circus act (real high C&#8217;s too) and Domingo lower the pira far (but he actually stood and delivered the B flat to the audience rather than singing it into the wings or upstage, which was his usual trick) &#8211; and cracked.</p>
<p>Lee was the greatest Leonora for a few years, and Stella was part of a thrilling event &#8212; Bergonzi, Simionato, Bastianini &#8212; and in Philly Cerquetti and the greatest Irene Kramarach but after that it&#8217;s hard to think of who? Millo maybe, I think it was one she went on for Marton and it all worked (an official video tape survives). Goodness, except for Zajick an impossible opera!</p>
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		<title>By: Geronimo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geronimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 01:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, La Cieca, for drawing attention to the previous Nellie Miriciou broadcasts. I worked with Nellie for 3 productions, and although I won&#039;t pretend that her natural instrument ever gave me much joy to listen to, she&#039;s a serious, intense and very musical singer. Her voice has been damaged by too many Toscas; she never was the singer for this repertoire. But she was a superb artist for bel canto, with many colors and ideas, as well as superb technical control 15 years ago.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But to my main point- Nellie is a kind, lovely colleague, much beloved by her family and friends, and for a poster to suggest she needs to be shot against a wall because they don&#039;t &quot;like&quot; her singing is reflective of some of the recent posting on this site, by posters, named and unnamed alike. It isn&#039;t neccesary, nor humorous to write about singers like this. Save your hatred for politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, La Cieca, for drawing attention to the previous Nellie Miriciou broadcasts. I worked with Nellie for 3 productions, and although I won&#8217;t pretend that her natural instrument ever gave me much joy to listen to, she&#8217;s a serious, intense and very musical singer. Her voice has been damaged by too many Toscas; she never was the singer for this repertoire. But she was a superb artist for bel canto, with many colors and ideas, as well as superb technical control 15 years ago.</p>
<p>But to my main point- Nellie is a kind, lovely colleague, much beloved by her family and friends, and for a poster to suggest she needs to be shot against a wall because they don&#8217;t &#8220;like&#8221; her singing is reflective of some of the recent posting on this site, by posters, named and unnamed alike. It isn&#8217;t neccesary, nor humorous to write about singers like this. Save your hatred for politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Constantine A. Papas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constantine A. Papas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Anonymous # 2?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My response was for Balabanov 11, on this blog, concering RAS, vocal technique and &quot;support from the diaphragm.&quot; I did not mean to &quot;show off,&quot; but since the validity of my opinion was questioned, and rightly so, I had to respond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Anonymous # 2?</p>
<p>My response was for Balabanov 11, on this blog, concering RAS, vocal technique and &#8220;support from the diaphragm.&#8221; I did not mean to &#8220;show off,&#8221; but since the validity of my opinion was questioned, and rightly so, I had to respond.</p>
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		<title>By: Brightshadow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brightshadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. John -- we have disagreed much over the years, but that &quot;no solid core to the voice&quot; about Sills was flawless, to the point critique. Just what I have been trying to put my finger on about her for 36 years. I&#039;m also charmed that you mention Patty Brooks, whose Traviata hooked me on opera when I were but a lad and the notion of paying for sex had not quite penetrated. (It&#039;s still obscure.) &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Crutchfield is the best writer on voice that the Times has had in my lifetime. Nowadays, for vocal issues in New York, I stick to Jorden and Shengold, who DISCUSS such things and are usually right besides.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In days of yore, of course, there was Henderson, still a great read.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I heard Scotto in SF in Butterfly and a lousy Trovatore with the French ending (one of Verdi&#039;s worst afterthoughts) well before 1979. She was not a great Leonora. (A tricky part.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Reneigh is the Lucrezia? I think you just saved me a trip to D.C. (That would be a good role for RAS.) &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- Hans Lick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. John &#8212; we have disagreed much over the years, but that &#8220;no solid core to the voice&#8221; about Sills was flawless, to the point critique. Just what I have been trying to put my finger on about her for 36 years. I&#8217;m also charmed that you mention Patty Brooks, whose Traviata hooked me on opera when I were but a lad and the notion of paying for sex had not quite penetrated. (It&#8217;s still obscure.) </p>
<p>Crutchfield is the best writer on voice that the Times has had in my lifetime. Nowadays, for vocal issues in New York, I stick to Jorden and Shengold, who DISCUSS such things and are usually right besides.</p>
<p>In days of yore, of course, there was Henderson, still a great read.</p>
<p>I heard Scotto in SF in Butterfly and a lousy Trovatore with the French ending (one of Verdi&#8217;s worst afterthoughts) well before 1979. She was not a great Leonora. (A tricky part.)</p>
<p>Reneigh is the Lucrezia? I think you just saved me a trip to D.C. (That would be a good role for RAS.) </p>
<p>- Hans Lick</p>
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		<title>By: Constantine A. Papas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constantine A. Papas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Anonymous,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is an informal site, and I don&#039;t do proofing, plus I&#039;m a two- finger untrained typist and I make mistakes. Next time I&#039;ll be more careful. At least, with all respect, I have the guts to use my real name!</description>
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<p>This is an informal site, and I don&#8217;t do proofing, plus I&#8217;m a two- finger untrained typist and I make mistakes. Next time I&#8217;ll be more careful. At least, with all respect, I have the guts to use my real name!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Constantine My-Interest-In-Opera-Is-For-Real Papas - &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Really, I have rarely been so fascinated as when I read your bio just now.  Honestly.  No really, I mean it.  Thank you for sharing.  But what did this have to do with RAS singing Stuarda in Lyon and/or Paris?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Constantine My-Interest-In-Opera-Is-For-Real Papas &#8211; </p>
<p>Really, I have rarely been so fascinated as when I read your bio just now.  Honestly.  No really, I mean it.  Thank you for sharing.  But what did this have to do with RAS singing Stuarda in Lyon and/or Paris?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now if only you could learn to spell.  Hank Custin</description>
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		<title>By: Constantine A. Papas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constantine A. Papas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Balabanov 11&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I never read &quot;Voice Technique&quot; for Dummies, and I didn&#039;t even know that it existed. I responded to your previous note regarding to vocal technique and &quot;support from the diaphragm.&quot; Since the age of five, when I heard old recordings of Caruso&#039;s and Gigli&#039;s arias, I got hooked and obsessed with opera and the human voice. I&#039;m a physician (MD), and although not an ENT specialist, I have been fascinated with and a lifelong student of the singing human voice and its anatomical and physioligical infrastructure. If you look, and I have, at someone&#039;s larynx it would be impossibe to comprehend that two simple folds of tissue- the vocal cords- have the potential to become an instrument of deity. My attendance of live operas at the Met, Lyric of Chiago, Houston, Ceveland, Europe, and including recitals, is way above one hundred-I&#039;ve stoped counting-and my collection of complete opera LPs and CDs is vast. When the Met was in Cleveland for its spring tour, I closed my my office for the entire week, attending evry single perfotmance. Last weekend I was in Nwe York City and saw the opening of Aida and the second performance of Romeo et Juliette. In my time, I&#039;ve seen, live, all the great singers of the past 45 years. I hope I answered your question concerning my intrest and experience in vocal techique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Balabanov 11</p>
<p>I never read &#8220;Voice Technique&#8221; for Dummies, and I didn&#8217;t even know that it existed. I responded to your previous note regarding to vocal technique and &#8220;support from the diaphragm.&#8221; Since the age of five, when I heard old recordings of Caruso&#8217;s and Gigli&#8217;s arias, I got hooked and obsessed with opera and the human voice. I&#8217;m a physician (MD), and although not an ENT specialist, I have been fascinated with and a lifelong student of the singing human voice and its anatomical and physioligical infrastructure. If you look, and I have, at someone&#8217;s larynx it would be impossibe to comprehend that two simple folds of tissue- the vocal cords- have the potential to become an instrument of deity. My attendance of live operas at the Met, Lyric of Chiago, Houston, Ceveland, Europe, and including recitals, is way above one hundred-I&#8217;ve stoped counting-and my collection of complete opera LPs and CDs is vast. When the Met was in Cleveland for its spring tour, I closed my my office for the entire week, attending evry single perfotmance. Last weekend I was in Nwe York City and saw the opening of Aida and the second performance of Romeo et Juliette. In my time, I&#8217;ve seen, live, all the great singers of the past 45 years. I hope I answered your question concerning my intrest and experience in vocal techique.</p>
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		<title>By: balabanov11</title>
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		<dc:creator>balabanov11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Constantine A. Papas - &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thank you so much for reprinting the introduction to &#039;Vocal &quot;Technique&quot; for Dummies&#039;, in your response to my post, although what it actually had to do with my post escapes me. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Aren&#039;t you the fan who takes long airplane flights to experience Netrebka performances? If so, what possible interest could you have in vocal technique?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Constantine A. Papas &#8211; </p>
<p>Thank you so much for reprinting the introduction to &#8216;Vocal &#8220;Technique&#8221; for Dummies&#8217;, in your response to my post, although what it actually had to do with my post escapes me. </p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t you the fan who takes long airplane flights to experience Netrebka performances? If so, what possible interest could you have in vocal technique?</p>
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		<title>By: La Cieca</title>
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		<dc:creator>La Cieca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Miricioiu:  La Cieca hostessed three podcasts recently featuring the soprano in &lt;i&gt;Roberto Devereux&lt;/i&gt;, with &quot;encore&quot; highlights from &lt;i&gt;Ermione&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Anna Bolena&lt;/i&gt;.  The podcasts can be found on the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://parterre.com/unnatural_acts_archive.php&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2007 Archive page&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Miricioiu:  La Cieca hostessed three podcasts recently featuring the soprano in <i>Roberto Devereux</i>, with &#8220;encore&#8221; highlights from <i>Ermione</i> and <i>Anna Bolena</i>.  The podcasts can be found on the <a HREF="http://parterre.com/unnatural_acts_archive.php" REL="nofollow">2007 Archive page</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: armerjaquino</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erm, not *that* sober, opera in the uk... I suspect you&#039;ve put this post in the wrong thread...</description>
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		<title>By: opera in the uk</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I was at dinner with friends, hit the vino and logged on when I got home.  Broke my own rule, you can look, but don&#039;t join the conversation, because you&#039;ll come out with some shit.  I did.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyway, sober, I still think Angela is a truly great soprano.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I was at dinner with friends, hit the vino and logged on when I got home.  Broke my own rule, you can look, but don&#8217;t join the conversation, because you&#8217;ll come out with some shit.  I did.</p>
<p>Anyway, sober, I still think Angela is a truly great soprano.</p>
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		<title>By: Evenhanded</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evenhanded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Clag has said many many wonderful and exactly correct things about Scotto: one of the very greatest ever.  Those Vespris are beyond incredible (really outshining Caballe even).  I did not hear Freni enough to venture a strong opinion, but she always seemed just a tad boring to me - it took a lot to get her imagination going.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Regarding Miricioiu: I agree 100% with Krunoslav - she is emphatically NOT a fake.  Eccentric, sure, undisciplined, well yes, but a fake?  Not at all.  Those MET Vespris were AWFUL.  But mainly, I think, because she is past her best years now - she&#039;s lost some of her former confidence, and the voice doesn&#039;t respond as well as it once did.  She has always seemed an emotional creature - volatile in fact - and it shows in her singing.  If you go back to the 80s and get your hands on many of her pirates: Bolena, Stuarda, Borgia from Amsterdam, Tancredi, Armida, even Lucia - there are some very high quality moments and some of the performances (specifically the Amsterdam Bolena) are among the very best EVER by ANYONE.  It is a shame that she made such failures at the MET, but that doesn&#039;t negate a career that verged on greatness from time to time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Clag has said many many wonderful and exactly correct things about Scotto: one of the very greatest ever.  Those Vespris are beyond incredible (really outshining Caballe even).  I did not hear Freni enough to venture a strong opinion, but she always seemed just a tad boring to me &#8211; it took a lot to get her imagination going.</p>
<p>Regarding Miricioiu: I agree 100% with Krunoslav &#8211; she is emphatically NOT a fake.  Eccentric, sure, undisciplined, well yes, but a fake?  Not at all.  Those MET Vespris were AWFUL.  But mainly, I think, because she is past her best years now &#8211; she&#8217;s lost some of her former confidence, and the voice doesn&#8217;t respond as well as it once did.  She has always seemed an emotional creature &#8211; volatile in fact &#8211; and it shows in her singing.  If you go back to the 80s and get your hands on many of her pirates: Bolena, Stuarda, Borgia from Amsterdam, Tancredi, Armida, even Lucia &#8211; there are some very high quality moments and some of the performances (specifically the Amsterdam Bolena) are among the very best EVER by ANYONE.  It is a shame that she made such failures at the MET, but that doesn&#8217;t negate a career that verged on greatness from time to time.</p>
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		<title>By: sugarmezzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>sugarmezzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmmm....</description>
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		<title>By: iltenoredigrazia</title>
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		<dc:creator>iltenoredigrazia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scotto had sung Adriana and Butterfly in SF prior to Gioconda.   After the Giocondas she sang Ballo in Chicago with Pavarotti.    I have a recording of that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Mrs. Clagart said of Scotto that &quot;Her &#039;return&#039; Vespri in &#039;74 was an incredible evening and the audience went mad.&quot;  True.   I was there and it was a truly electrifying performance.   That&#039;s when Levine fell in love with her.   In the musical way, that is.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I also agree with JF in his comments about Andrew Porter.   How I miss those New Yorker articles!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scotto had sung Adriana and Butterfly in SF prior to Gioconda.   After the Giocondas she sang Ballo in Chicago with Pavarotti.    I have a recording of that.</p>
<p>Mrs. Clagart said of Scotto that &#8220;Her &#8216;return&#8217; Vespri in &#8217;74 was an incredible evening and the audience went mad.&#8221;  True.   I was there and it was a truly electrifying performance.   That&#8217;s when Levine fell in love with her.   In the musical way, that is.</p>
<p>I also agree with JF in his comments about Andrew Porter.   How I miss those New Yorker articles!!</p>
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		<title>By: Krunoslav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krunoslav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Adler retired as Intendant in 1981, four years before Scotto sang those wonderful Charlottes opposite Kraus: Terry McEwan invited her.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;She was contracted to return in LA VOIX HUMAINE the following summer but bailed when she learned that in effect she would be curtain-raising for Regine Crespin in THE MEDIUM. Karan Armstrong was the not altogether satisfactory replacement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Adler retired as Intendant in 1981, four years before Scotto sang those wonderful Charlottes opposite Kraus: Terry McEwan invited her.</p>
<p>She was contracted to return in LA VOIX HUMAINE the following summer but bailed when she learned that in effect she would be curtain-raising for Regine Crespin in THE MEDIUM. Karan Armstrong was the not altogether satisfactory replacement.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilg@mesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilg@mesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the memories...&lt;br/&gt;Keeping in the spirit...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I fell in love with Thais from my tape of the live radio broadcast of Sills&#039; and Milnes&#039; &#039;76 opening night broadcast in San Francisco. (Reel-to-reel, back then, but I had it converted to cassettes in the 90s.) &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It was a year or two prior to their Met outing (which I never heard) but this performance and the one I attended the following week had few rough patches for either, the passion of the final scene as moving as anything any opera performance has ever produced for me.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And, apropos Maria Stuarda, after all is said, Sills&#039; recording DOES have the Elisabetta of Eileen Farrell.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;La Scotto had a mere five roles in San Francisco, the one I remember most fondly being her &#039;79 debut Gioconda, with Pav (their last outing together, I believe), Toczyska, Lilova.  A splendid Suicidio!  What has become of that videotape? - it was televised on PBS but never released.  We always thought the feuding diva &amp; divo blocked it somehow. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;After that, a moving Charlotte opposite Krause in the 80s, Adler retired as intendant, and her SF appearances were over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the memories&#8230;<br />Keeping in the spirit&#8230;</p>
<p>I fell in love with Thais from my tape of the live radio broadcast of Sills&#8217; and Milnes&#8217; &#8217;76 opening night broadcast in San Francisco. (Reel-to-reel, back then, but I had it converted to cassettes in the 90s.) </p>
<p>It was a year or two prior to their Met outing (which I never heard) but this performance and the one I attended the following week had few rough patches for either, the passion of the final scene as moving as anything any opera performance has ever produced for me.</p>
<p>And, apropos Maria Stuarda, after all is said, Sills&#8217; recording DOES have the Elisabetta of Eileen Farrell.</p>
<p>La Scotto had a mere five roles in San Francisco, the one I remember most fondly being her &#8217;79 debut Gioconda, with Pav (their last outing together, I believe), Toczyska, Lilova.  A splendid Suicidio!  What has become of that videotape? &#8211; it was televised on PBS but never released.  We always thought the feuding diva &#038; divo blocked it somehow. </p>
<p>After that, a moving Charlotte opposite Krause in the 80s, Adler retired as intendant, and her SF appearances were over.</p>
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		<title>By: Krunoslav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krunoslav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 06:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who only heard Miricioiu at the Met heard her at an enormous disadvantage. She is not a Fake, MJC. FABULOUS as Violetta in San Fran and in Ravenna-- there is a DVD of that with Brusin. One of the great Violettas.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also a remarkable performer at DC Concert Opera in BORGIA and BOLENA and PIRATA, which she really understood. Also try the Wigmore Hall recital CD. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Not knowing what to expect at NYCO in Handel...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Freni&#039;s Elisabetta was NOT impressive from the Family Circle- &quot;quite adequate&quot;, no projection, so how &quot;enormous&quot; was the voice? Fantastic as Manon Lescaut in San Fran, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who only heard Miricioiu at the Met heard her at an enormous disadvantage. She is not a Fake, MJC. FABULOUS as Violetta in San Fran and in Ravenna&#8211; there is a DVD of that with Brusin. One of the great Violettas.</p>
<p>Also a remarkable performer at DC Concert Opera in BORGIA and BOLENA and PIRATA, which she really understood. Also try the Wigmore Hall recital CD. </p>
<p>Not knowing what to expect at NYCO in Handel&#8230;</p>
<p>Freni&#8217;s Elisabetta was NOT impressive from the Family Circle- &#8220;quite adequate&#8221;, no projection, so how &#8220;enormous&#8221; was the voice? Fantastic as Manon Lescaut in San Fran, though.</p>
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		<title>By: of the kosmos</title>
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		<dc:creator>of the kosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 05:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brightshadow, it was announced on French radio that Renee Fleming will sing Lucrezia Borgia in DC.  I believe a DVD will be made from those performances...</description>
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		<title>By: JF in DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JF in DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scotto&#039;s Butterfly was close to definitive (Kabaivanska was also very good).  Re: Vaness, I think Schonberg bought into Sheila Porter&#039;s NYCO hype.  But Schonberg was still a better critic that the current NY Times critic.  (There was nothing wrong with the Vespri production except those damn steps.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Irving Kolodin was another of my favorites and of course Andrew Porter&#039;s New Yorker years produced some of the best criticism I&#039;ve ever read.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Our Chicago Mimi sounds a tad nervous, at least in the third act. I find her voice rather vinegary.  The Rodolfo is doing nicely ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scotto&#8217;s Butterfly was close to definitive (Kabaivanska was also very good).  Re: Vaness, I think Schonberg bought into Sheila Porter&#8217;s NYCO hype.  But Schonberg was still a better critic that the current NY Times critic.  (There was nothing wrong with the Vespri production except those damn steps.)</p>
<p>Irving Kolodin was another of my favorites and of course Andrew Porter&#8217;s New Yorker years produced some of the best criticism I&#8217;ve ever read.</p>
<p>Our Chicago Mimi sounds a tad nervous, at least in the third act. I find her voice rather vinegary.  The Rodolfo is doing nicely &#8230;</p>
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